Gunsmithing badger action coatings
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Re: badger action coatings
Yes. If you cerakote both the receiver and bolt, it'll feel slicker than snot when its oiled and sitting in the confines of your mancave, but will bind like a virgin ice-queen when subjected to field conditions.
My GAP snipershide Valkyrie had been coated both bolt/action. It was pretty bad. Sent the bolt in to BO where they ground the OD of the bolt body .002" (eliminating the coating and also increasing clearance further), and it was FIXED.
Another option is to have both bolt/action ion-bonded, which is super thin, and super slick. Many folks have reported excellent success with this action and that coating.
Yes. If you cerakote both the receiver and bolt, it'll feel slicker than snot when its oiled and sitting in the confines of your mancave, but will bind like a virgin ice-queen when subjected to field conditions.
My GAP snipershide Valkyrie had been coated both bolt/action. It was pretty bad. Sent the bolt in to BO where they ground the OD of the bolt body .002" (eliminating the coating and also increasing clearance further), and it was FIXED.
Another option is to have both bolt/action ion-bonded, which is super thin, and super slick. Many folks have reported excellent success with this action and that coating.
Re: badger action coatings
I'd say the thinner the better, M2008's have zilch for bolt body clearance, which can be construed as a bad thing, but I have rarely had mine gum up... yadda yadda
Ion-Bond is ballpark 2 microns thick... That's .00008"...
I've read of 1911's being too tight after being coated with NP3.
I'm not sure how thick it is though.
I'd say Cerakote & the likes would be too thick if applied in a manner which would give you any kind of durability over time.
I'd say the thinner the better, M2008's have zilch for bolt body clearance, which can be construed as a bad thing, but I have rarely had mine gum up... yadda yadda
Ion-Bond is ballpark 2 microns thick... That's .00008"...
I've read of 1911's being too tight after being coated with NP3.
I'm not sure how thick it is though.
I'd say Cerakote & the likes would be too thick if applied in a manner which would give you any kind of durability over time.
Re: badger action coatings
For ONE coating all around, I'd suggest either Melonite or IonBond.
You could go with anything under the sun for your barreled action, I would just suggest not coating the bolt or any of its components with something thick.
If you are suspect on any coating, call Badger, those guys will bend over backwards for you.
Also, there is an IonBond distributor who works out of Denton, NC by the name of Chad Buie, owner of Club Custom Guns who did mine.
He could probably answer any specifics on that coating.
And tell Gray he cleans his rifle too much.
For ONE coating all around, I'd suggest either Melonite or IonBond.
You could go with anything under the sun for your barreled action, I would just suggest not coating the bolt or any of its components with something thick.
If you are suspect on any coating, call Badger, those guys will bend over backwards for you.
Also, there is an IonBond distributor who works out of Denton, NC by the name of Chad Buie, owner of Club Custom Guns who did mine.
He could probably answer any specifics on that coating.
And tell Gray he cleans his rifle too much.
Re: badger action coatings
I've been cleaning/firing/cleaning/firing for the last 2,000 rounds out of my 260, when are these things supposed to get broken in?
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I've been cleaning/firing/cleaning/firing for the last 2,000 rounds out of my 260, when are these things supposed to get broken in?
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Sweet, denton isnt but 30 minutes from my smith. Ha ive told gray since day one he cleans them too much..if he spent that much effort on his wife...nevermind thats a different story for when you come back and shoot with us.
Sweet, denton isnt but 30 minutes from my smith. Ha ive told gray since day one he cleans them too much..if he spent that much effort on his wife...nevermind thats a different story for when you come back and shoot with us.
Re: badger action coatings
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wheres-Waldo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For ONE coating all around, I'd suggest either Melonite or IonBond.
You could go with anything under the sun for your barreled action, I would just suggest not coating the bolt or any of its components with something thick.
If you are suspect on any coating, call Badger, those guys will bend over backwards for you.
Also, there is an IonBond distributor who works out of Denton, NC by the name of Chad Buie, owner of Club Custom Guns who did mine.
He could probably answer any specifics on that coating.
And tell Gray he cleans his rifle too much. </div></div>
I've spoken to Marty @ BO about this. His words:
- Don't cerakote both receiver and bolt, it's too thick, and the bolt will bind
- Ion bond is awesome
- He doesn't endorse melonite, though he doesn't hate it either. The issue is that cooking steel @ 1050*F for 30 minutes makes metal move. BO has no control over who does the melonite, nor do they have control of the tolerances or the geometry of the parts during the process. The temper of the metal won't be ruined, so it's ok from that standpoint, but your precision-machined action that is geometrically perfect, might not be anymore after melonite.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wheres-Waldo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For ONE coating all around, I'd suggest either Melonite or IonBond.
You could go with anything under the sun for your barreled action, I would just suggest not coating the bolt or any of its components with something thick.
If you are suspect on any coating, call Badger, those guys will bend over backwards for you.
Also, there is an IonBond distributor who works out of Denton, NC by the name of Chad Buie, owner of Club Custom Guns who did mine.
He could probably answer any specifics on that coating.
And tell Gray he cleans his rifle too much. </div></div>
I've spoken to Marty @ BO about this. His words:
- Don't cerakote both receiver and bolt, it's too thick, and the bolt will bind
- Ion bond is awesome
- He doesn't endorse melonite, though he doesn't hate it either. The issue is that cooking steel @ 1050*F for 30 minutes makes metal move. BO has no control over who does the melonite, nor do they have control of the tolerances or the geometry of the parts during the process. The temper of the metal won't be ruined, so it's ok from that standpoint, but your precision-machined action that is geometrically perfect, might not be anymore after melonite.
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