What would be the difference between a base and ring set that was $30 and one that was $100. I'm asking because Leupold makes a nice looking base and tactical rings for $30 on optics planet. Normally I would stray away from such a low price, but I know Leupold is a great name brand. What might the difference be?
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Quality would be the difference, if you can get Leupold base and rings for $30 thats a steal.
Quality would be the difference, if you can get Leupold base and rings for $30 thats a steal.
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loopy make all kinds of stuff for all kinds of application, just because it says "tactical" don't mean its going to make you go high speed & low drag.....if you want to know if stuff is going to work for you ....you got to be a LOT more specific and post some links and or pictures .....and what it is EXACTLY you wish to accomplish........there is a whole lot of stuff out there that may be knock off.....which may not be bad for airsofters.
loopy make all kinds of stuff for all kinds of application, just because it says "tactical" don't mean its going to make you go high speed & low drag.....if you want to know if stuff is going to work for you ....you got to be a LOT more specific and post some links and or pictures .....and what it is EXACTLY you wish to accomplish........there is a whole lot of stuff out there that may be knock off.....which may not be bad for airsofters.
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I couldn't find exactly the set I was talking about. But this is the base that it came with. Again, I normally wouldn't even consider buying anything this cheap, but it's a Leupold.
http://www.opticsplanet.net/leupold-rifleman-rifle-scope-mount-bases.html
I couldn't find exactly the set I was talking about. But this is the base that it came with. Again, I normally wouldn't even consider buying anything this cheap, but it's a Leupold.
http://www.opticsplanet.net/leupold-rifleman-rifle-scope-mount-bases.html
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Riflemans aren't bad at all. They are aluminum so might not take a serious beating from a magnum but they are worth the money
Riflemans aren't bad at all. They are aluminum so might not take a serious beating from a magnum but they are worth the money
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Well it's going to be on a .308. I don't understand the advantage of paying a lot for a base and rings for a .308. Do the more expensive one's hold tighter or something?
Well it's going to be on a .308. I don't understand the advantage of paying a lot for a base and rings for a .308. Do the more expensive one's hold tighter or something?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tanda10506</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well it's going to be on a .308. I don't understand the advantage of paying a lot for a base and rings for a .308. Do the more expensive one's hold tighter or something? </div></div>
The more expensive one's use: Better materials; Better QC: base to base and ring to ring, means better overall fit. Better bases (like Seekins and Badger among others) have recoil shoulders, so your dinky 6-48 screws don't take all the burden.
But it's your money. If you think $30.for rings and bases are good enough for your use, OK by me It's not like there are no experienced tactical shooters on this site. Were all just a bunch of rich boozo's, that never shoot, and just buy $100. bases and $150. rings to impresses the unwashed.
Go cheap and "save" if that's your plan. We don't need to approve your buying decisions. Buy what makes you happy, not us.....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tanda10506</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well it's going to be on a .308. I don't understand the advantage of paying a lot for a base and rings for a .308. Do the more expensive one's hold tighter or something? </div></div>
The more expensive one's use: Better materials; Better QC: base to base and ring to ring, means better overall fit. Better bases (like Seekins and Badger among others) have recoil shoulders, so your dinky 6-48 screws don't take all the burden.
But it's your money. If you think $30.for rings and bases are good enough for your use, OK by me It's not like there are no experienced tactical shooters on this site. Were all just a bunch of rich boozo's, that never shoot, and just buy $100. bases and $150. rings to impresses the unwashed.
Go cheap and "save" if that's your plan. We don't need to approve your buying decisions. Buy what makes you happy, not us.....
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Easy, I wasn't trying to be an asshole. Of course there's tactical shooters on here that's why I asked the question. When I said I don't understand why you would pay more, I didn't mean there's no point in paying more, I meant that I really didn't understand the advantage. I wasn't trying to "save" anything, as I said before I would have never considered anything at that low of a price, BUT it was Leupold which is usually much more expensive.
Easy, I wasn't trying to be an asshole. Of course there's tactical shooters on here that's why I asked the question. When I said I don't understand why you would pay more, I didn't mean there's no point in paying more, I meant that I really didn't understand the advantage. I wasn't trying to "save" anything, as I said before I would have never considered anything at that low of a price, BUT it was Leupold which is usually much more expensive.
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I did not think you were. Leupold makes a variety of bases and rings, in a range of prices. From the Rifleman bases and rings your looking at, to the Mark 4's that run $100 for the bases and $125 for the rings.
Why do you think Leupold sells and markets bases that sell from $10. to $100.? Do you really think that there is no difference in quality, suitability, or fit for function between them? The 10 buck bases have Leupold's name on them, so they must be a good as the 100 buck bases that also have Leupold's name on them?
You have already been told, that bases for tactical rifles, must be made of quality materials, dimensionally correct for proper fit and repeatability, and rugged. That quality costs money. I'm sorry that you don't understand those advantages.
I don't believe it is the proper function of the members here to prove to your satisfaction their reasons for buying quality products. It is incumbent on you to decide your needs for yourself.
I did not think you were. Leupold makes a variety of bases and rings, in a range of prices. From the Rifleman bases and rings your looking at, to the Mark 4's that run $100 for the bases and $125 for the rings.
Why do you think Leupold sells and markets bases that sell from $10. to $100.? Do you really think that there is no difference in quality, suitability, or fit for function between them? The 10 buck bases have Leupold's name on them, so they must be a good as the 100 buck bases that also have Leupold's name on them?
You have already been told, that bases for tactical rifles, must be made of quality materials, dimensionally correct for proper fit and repeatability, and rugged. That quality costs money. I'm sorry that you don't understand those advantages.
I don't believe it is the proper function of the members here to prove to your satisfaction their reasons for buying quality products. It is incumbent on you to decide your needs for yourself.
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Even some good manufacturers make different "levels" of quality to accomidate the consumer. As far as "needing" high quality rings and base for the lowly .308? Well, you ever drop anything? You ever bash it on the door of your truck when you're puting it in the back seat? Ever droped it out of a deer stand? Ever triped over a log and rammed it into the ground elevation turret first? Ever had your feet slip out from under you in the snow and ice with your rifle slung on your back? Gettin my drift? Just take a good look at Leupy's MK 4 rings and then compare them to the $30 set you're speaking of or compare Badgers to anything. It gets pretty obvious with a little reserch. You get what you pay for. Good luck.
okie
PS. Sorry, didnt see the post above when I posted.
Even some good manufacturers make different "levels" of quality to accomidate the consumer. As far as "needing" high quality rings and base for the lowly .308? Well, you ever drop anything? You ever bash it on the door of your truck when you're puting it in the back seat? Ever droped it out of a deer stand? Ever triped over a log and rammed it into the ground elevation turret first? Ever had your feet slip out from under you in the snow and ice with your rifle slung on your back? Gettin my drift? Just take a good look at Leupy's MK 4 rings and then compare them to the $30 set you're speaking of or compare Badgers to anything. It gets pretty obvious with a little reserch. You get what you pay for. Good luck.
okie
PS. Sorry, didnt see the post above when I posted.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BobinNC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I did not think you were. Leupold makes a variety of bases and rings, in a range of prices. From the Rifleman bases and rings your looking at, to the Mark 4's that run $100 for the bases and $125 for the rings.
Why do you think Leupold sells and markets bases that sell from $10. to $100.? Do you really think that there is no difference in quality, suitability, or fit for function between them? The 10 buck bases have Leupold's name on them, so they must be a good as the 100 buck bases that also have Leupold's name on them?
You have already been told, that bases for tactical rifles, must be made of quality materials, dimensionally correct for proper fit and repeatability, and rugged. That quality costs money. I'm sorry that you don't understand those advantages.
I don't believe it is the proper function of the members here to prove to your satisfaction their reasons for buying quality products. It is incumbent on you to decide your needs for yourself.
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No I had not been told that, you have no idea what I have been told. Also, nobody said there was no difference, I asked what the difference is, I'm sorry if your to confused by that. Nobody said that it's the "proper function" of the members to prove things to me, and it's not. But if they want to answer my questions, then great, your not the one who determines what the "proper function" of the members is. I asked a simple question on the advantage: not the difference, not what people like, not wether I should buy it or not, that's all I asked. If you have nothing to say but to try to insult me with the obvious, then don't waste your time and mine. Thanks.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BobinNC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I did not think you were. Leupold makes a variety of bases and rings, in a range of prices. From the Rifleman bases and rings your looking at, to the Mark 4's that run $100 for the bases and $125 for the rings.
Why do you think Leupold sells and markets bases that sell from $10. to $100.? Do you really think that there is no difference in quality, suitability, or fit for function between them? The 10 buck bases have Leupold's name on them, so they must be a good as the 100 buck bases that also have Leupold's name on them?
You have already been told, that bases for tactical rifles, must be made of quality materials, dimensionally correct for proper fit and repeatability, and rugged. That quality costs money. I'm sorry that you don't understand those advantages.
I don't believe it is the proper function of the members here to prove to your satisfaction their reasons for buying quality products. It is incumbent on you to decide your needs for yourself.
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No I had not been told that, you have no idea what I have been told. Also, nobody said there was no difference, I asked what the difference is, I'm sorry if your to confused by that. Nobody said that it's the "proper function" of the members to prove things to me, and it's not. But if they want to answer my questions, then great, your not the one who determines what the "proper function" of the members is. I asked a simple question on the advantage: not the difference, not what people like, not wether I should buy it or not, that's all I asked. If you have nothing to say but to try to insult me with the obvious, then don't waste your time and mine. Thanks.
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Heres my take. Scenario- I bought an EGW 15moa base when I first got my 700 and I believe the price was 39.99 for their "CHEAPER" model. Problem- When I went to replace this CHEAPER base guess what?...I had to drill the heads off to get the damn thing off. Now I didnt use any loctite and I only used about 15"lbs of torque on the screws. What caused this you say? Recoil. Lesson learned. I inturn to solve the problem bought a well built quality base made by Seekins which has a recoil lug built in keeping the recoil off those little tiny factory screws. A good quality set of rings and base is goin to cost u anywhere from $150 to $250. Do yourself and your rifle u invested in a favor and give it what it deserves.
Heres my take. Scenario- I bought an EGW 15moa base when I first got my 700 and I believe the price was 39.99 for their "CHEAPER" model. Problem- When I went to replace this CHEAPER base guess what?...I had to drill the heads off to get the damn thing off. Now I didnt use any loctite and I only used about 15"lbs of torque on the screws. What caused this you say? Recoil. Lesson learned. I inturn to solve the problem bought a well built quality base made by Seekins which has a recoil lug built in keeping the recoil off those little tiny factory screws. A good quality set of rings and base is goin to cost u anywhere from $150 to $250. Do yourself and your rifle u invested in a favor and give it what it deserves.
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to put simply, a $30 base/or ring will more likely result in a shift in POI over time compared to a quality Seekin/Badger/NF...etc due to difference in quality/durability/hardness of the materials and finish.
Peace.. buy once, cry once.. I've living on instant noodles, water and bicycle right now so my GAP build can have the best of everything.
to put simply, a $30 base/or ring will more likely result in a shift in POI over time compared to a quality Seekin/Badger/NF...etc due to difference in quality/durability/hardness of the materials and finish.
Peace.. buy once, cry once.. I've living on instant noodles, water and bicycle right now so my GAP build can have the best of everything.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tanda10506</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BobinNC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I did not think you were. Leupold makes a variety of bases and rings, in a range of prices. From the Rifleman bases and rings your looking at, to the Mark 4's that run $100 for the bases and $125 for the rings.
Why do you think Leupold sells and markets bases that sell from $10. to $100.? Do you really think that there is no difference in quality, suitability, or fit for function between them? The 10 buck bases have Leupold's name on them, so they must be a good as the 100 buck bases that also have Leupold's name on them?
You have already been told, that bases for tactical rifles, must be made of quality materials, dimensionally correct for proper fit and repeatability, and rugged. That quality costs money. I'm sorry that you don't understand those advantages.
I don't believe it is the proper function of the members here to prove to your satisfaction their reasons for buying quality products. It is incumbent on you to decide your needs for yourself.
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No I had not been told that, you have no idea what I have been told. Also, nobody said there was no difference, I asked what the difference is, I'm sorry if your to confused by that. Nobody said that it's the "proper function" of the members to prove things to me, and it's not. But if they want to answer my questions, then great, your not the one who determines what the "proper function" of the members is. I asked a simple question on the advantage: not the difference, not what people like, not wether I should buy it or not, that's all I asked. If you have nothing to say but to try to insult me with the obvious, then don't waste your time and mine. Thanks. </div></div>
Sir,
I'm not trying to insult you. Nor am I confused. The first post down, you got your answer, The difference between a $10. base and a $100. one, is "Quality".
In the second post down, you were treated to an answer about the variety and price range for Leupold products. Your were asked, politely to provide more information, which you did not provide.
You again reiterated that you did not understand the advantage of paying more for bases and rings. I not sure at that point what anyone can tell you. If "quality" does not persuade you, and using the search function provided free here, does not reveal any insight for you, what answer would you deem acceptable?
To get back to your question. In my humble opinion Leupold Rifleman bases and rings, are mostly cheap, suitable for once a year deer hunters, who shoot a 1/2 of ammo a year, and rarely shoot over 200 yds.
I did not give that answer because I have no idea what your planning to use your bases for or on, other than a 308 Winchester. Is it a bolt, auto, pump action, or single shot, you don't say and it does make a difference.
You did not state your applications: hunting, target shooting, tactical shooting, bench rest, long range, short range, plinking, paper punching, et al.
You did not state what scope you are planning on using, nor how far you are planning to shoot. And it does make a difference in the response you get, from me or anybody.
So, and meaning no insult, the more intelligent and detailed your post is; the more intelligent and detailed are the answers you receive......
For example: Let's take your original question, and I'll frame it in a different way:
<span style="font-style: italic">I have a Rem 700 SPS in 308 Winchester. I plan on using it for hunting and light target shooting out to 300 yds. I came across a a set of Leupold bases and rings (insert link) for $30. Would those work for my applications?
Also I see a number of bases and ring combos that are over $100. How would those work better for me, and my uses, than the $30. set? Are they worth the money?</span>
See the difference yet? You are both providing information as to your needs and wants, and asking questions to frame it so you can make an intelligent decision.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tanda10506</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BobinNC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I did not think you were. Leupold makes a variety of bases and rings, in a range of prices. From the Rifleman bases and rings your looking at, to the Mark 4's that run $100 for the bases and $125 for the rings.
Why do you think Leupold sells and markets bases that sell from $10. to $100.? Do you really think that there is no difference in quality, suitability, or fit for function between them? The 10 buck bases have Leupold's name on them, so they must be a good as the 100 buck bases that also have Leupold's name on them?
You have already been told, that bases for tactical rifles, must be made of quality materials, dimensionally correct for proper fit and repeatability, and rugged. That quality costs money. I'm sorry that you don't understand those advantages.
I don't believe it is the proper function of the members here to prove to your satisfaction their reasons for buying quality products. It is incumbent on you to decide your needs for yourself.
</div></div>
No I had not been told that, you have no idea what I have been told. Also, nobody said there was no difference, I asked what the difference is, I'm sorry if your to confused by that. Nobody said that it's the "proper function" of the members to prove things to me, and it's not. But if they want to answer my questions, then great, your not the one who determines what the "proper function" of the members is. I asked a simple question on the advantage: not the difference, not what people like, not wether I should buy it or not, that's all I asked. If you have nothing to say but to try to insult me with the obvious, then don't waste your time and mine. Thanks. </div></div>
Sir,
I'm not trying to insult you. Nor am I confused. The first post down, you got your answer, The difference between a $10. base and a $100. one, is "Quality".
In the second post down, you were treated to an answer about the variety and price range for Leupold products. Your were asked, politely to provide more information, which you did not provide.
You again reiterated that you did not understand the advantage of paying more for bases and rings. I not sure at that point what anyone can tell you. If "quality" does not persuade you, and using the search function provided free here, does not reveal any insight for you, what answer would you deem acceptable?
To get back to your question. In my humble opinion Leupold Rifleman bases and rings, are mostly cheap, suitable for once a year deer hunters, who shoot a 1/2 of ammo a year, and rarely shoot over 200 yds.
I did not give that answer because I have no idea what your planning to use your bases for or on, other than a 308 Winchester. Is it a bolt, auto, pump action, or single shot, you don't say and it does make a difference.
You did not state your applications: hunting, target shooting, tactical shooting, bench rest, long range, short range, plinking, paper punching, et al.
You did not state what scope you are planning on using, nor how far you are planning to shoot. And it does make a difference in the response you get, from me or anybody.
So, and meaning no insult, the more intelligent and detailed your post is; the more intelligent and detailed are the answers you receive......
For example: Let's take your original question, and I'll frame it in a different way:
<span style="font-style: italic">I have a Rem 700 SPS in 308 Winchester. I plan on using it for hunting and light target shooting out to 300 yds. I came across a a set of Leupold bases and rings (insert link) for $30. Would those work for my applications?
Also I see a number of bases and ring combos that are over $100. How would those work better for me, and my uses, than the $30. set? Are they worth the money?</span>
See the difference yet? You are both providing information as to your needs and wants, and asking questions to frame it so you can make an intelligent decision.
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Ok, I see what your saying about the info. I posted the link like I was asked for but I didn't give any info about the purpose and application. A simple answer like quality doesn't tell me anything though. Of course the more expensive things are usually higher quality, what I wanted to know was the difference the quality would make. I have since been answered and I think I will be spending more on my base and rings. It's a little late now, but it's going on a Remington 700 SPS Varmint .308 that will have either a Vortex Viper 6.5-20x-50 or a Nikon Monarch. The purpose is basically target shooting for fun, not really competitiion. And self defense if I'm ever in a horrible situation.
Ok, I see what your saying about the info. I posted the link like I was asked for but I didn't give any info about the purpose and application. A simple answer like quality doesn't tell me anything though. Of course the more expensive things are usually higher quality, what I wanted to know was the difference the quality would make. I have since been answered and I think I will be spending more on my base and rings. It's a little late now, but it's going on a Remington 700 SPS Varmint .308 that will have either a Vortex Viper 6.5-20x-50 or a Nikon Monarch. The purpose is basically target shooting for fun, not really competitiion. And self defense if I'm ever in a horrible situation.
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Tanda,
Good info. thank you. Before you buy bases and rings keep a couple of thoughts in mind.
You want to target shoot with your rifle and scope combo. How far? The reason I ask is because if you want to shoot @ long range, you want to keep in mind, the usefulness of canted bases (20moa for example) and the adjustment range of the scope you are planning on buying.
If your plans include shooting your 308 out to 1000 yds. you will need 38 to 42 MOA of adjustment depending on the load or ammo you are using. The Vortex Viper has 68 MOA of adjustment. That's 34 MOA of up and 34 MOA of down adjustment. So to reach 1000 yds, you would need a 20 MOA base. The Vortex Viper combined with a 20 MOA base will give you 54 MOA up and 14 MOA of down adjustment, and will let your reach 1000 yds with a 100 yd zero.
The comparable Nikon Monarch 6-24x50mm, has a 1" tube with 30 MOA of adjustment. That's only 15 MOA up and 15 MOA of down adjustment.
So keep in mind not only how far you target shoot now, but how far you would like to shoot @ in the future.
As far as bases and rings go, besides thinking about cant, you should consider buying a base and ring combo that meets 1913 Picatinny Mil/Spec standards. Bases that are built in accordance with the Picatinny 1913 specification will be dimensionally compatible with any rings that are built to the same standard.
That's were that pesky word "quality", creeps into the conversation again. Bases and rings built to that standard, will ensure you a trouble free mounting system. And in meeting such a standard cost more in materials, tolerances, and close fitting, than bases and rings which do not.
Best of luck,
Bob
Tanda,
Good info. thank you. Before you buy bases and rings keep a couple of thoughts in mind.
You want to target shoot with your rifle and scope combo. How far? The reason I ask is because if you want to shoot @ long range, you want to keep in mind, the usefulness of canted bases (20moa for example) and the adjustment range of the scope you are planning on buying.
If your plans include shooting your 308 out to 1000 yds. you will need 38 to 42 MOA of adjustment depending on the load or ammo you are using. The Vortex Viper has 68 MOA of adjustment. That's 34 MOA of up and 34 MOA of down adjustment. So to reach 1000 yds, you would need a 20 MOA base. The Vortex Viper combined with a 20 MOA base will give you 54 MOA up and 14 MOA of down adjustment, and will let your reach 1000 yds with a 100 yd zero.
The comparable Nikon Monarch 6-24x50mm, has a 1" tube with 30 MOA of adjustment. That's only 15 MOA up and 15 MOA of down adjustment.
So keep in mind not only how far you target shoot now, but how far you would like to shoot @ in the future.
As far as bases and rings go, besides thinking about cant, you should consider buying a base and ring combo that meets 1913 Picatinny Mil/Spec standards. Bases that are built in accordance with the Picatinny 1913 specification will be dimensionally compatible with any rings that are built to the same standard.
That's were that pesky word "quality", creeps into the conversation again. Bases and rings built to that standard, will ensure you a trouble free mounting system. And in meeting such a standard cost more in materials, tolerances, and close fitting, than bases and rings which do not.
Best of luck,
Bob
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Yes I want to go out to 1000 yards eventually. I didn't know that about the MOA adjustments, how come some people say they take there Buckmasters out to 1000? So if I bought a quality base with 20 MOA, how would that effect things at say 600? I think the Viper is better and that's what I will probably get.
Yes I want to go out to 1000 yards eventually. I didn't know that about the MOA adjustments, how come some people say they take there Buckmasters out to 1000? So if I bought a quality base with 20 MOA, how would that effect things at say 600? I think the Viper is better and that's what I will probably get.
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Tanda,
They can use a Buckmaster 4.5-14x50mm because it has 60 MOA of adjustment. That's 30 MOA up and 30 down. Add a 20 MOA base, and you now have 50 up and 10 down, and that sir, will get you 1000 yds.
Of course if you zero at 200 or 300 yds, instead of 100 yds, you an also get there without using a canted base. A 20 moa canted base will not effect things at 600 yds.
If you are contemplating a 20 MOA base, there are a number of good ones, but I prefer Seekins Precision 20 MOA base, for around $99. from Liberty Optics. It is a Billet 7075-T6 Aluminum alloy base, with built-in recoil shoulder, light but very stout. It meets all 1913 specs...
Tanda,
They can use a Buckmaster 4.5-14x50mm because it has 60 MOA of adjustment. That's 30 MOA up and 30 down. Add a 20 MOA base, and you now have 50 up and 10 down, and that sir, will get you 1000 yds.
Of course if you zero at 200 or 300 yds, instead of 100 yds, you an also get there without using a canted base. A 20 moa canted base will not effect things at 600 yds.
If you are contemplating a 20 MOA base, there are a number of good ones, but I prefer Seekins Precision 20 MOA base, for around $99. from Liberty Optics. It is a Billet 7075-T6 Aluminum alloy base, with built-in recoil shoulder, light but very stout. It meets all 1913 specs...
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Okay, I kind of understand how that works. I just looked at the Seekins base. I had actually planned on spending about $75 on the base, that's why I was surprised when I saw the Leupold cheaper ones. What if I bought the Buckmaster 6x-18-40 that has 50 MOA and I put it on a 20 MOA base, that would give me 70 up and only 5 down. Is that correct? That wouldn't be good to only have 5 down right?
Okay, I kind of understand how that works. I just looked at the Seekins base. I had actually planned on spending about $75 on the base, that's why I was surprised when I saw the Leupold cheaper ones. What if I bought the Buckmaster 6x-18-40 that has 50 MOA and I put it on a 20 MOA base, that would give me 70 up and only 5 down. Is that correct? That wouldn't be good to only have 5 down right?
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Tanda,
A 20 MOA dos not add adjustment. It mearly shifts the adjustment from the bottom to the top.
A 6-18x40mm Buckmaster has 50 MOA of adjustment, That's 25 up and 25 down. Add a 20 moa base and you now have 45 MOA up and 5 moa down: still 50 MOA, not 70 MOA.....
And no, 5 moa left is not good, 10-15 would be better, like the 4.5-14 Buckmaster has. Or you can buy a 10x42mm Super Sniper from SWFA (for around $320.), and you get 125+ MOA of adjustment.
Not a thing wrong with a fixed 10x for banging away at targets. The best thing about a 10x42MM Super Sniper is you can learn on it, and re-sell it here, when you move up in glass, and you will lose very little $$$.
Read some more here. Check out Optics FAQ above this section.
Not to be preachy: but read more now, buy less stuff you will just junk later. Tactical shooting can be addictive...
Oh, and have fun
Tanda,
A 20 MOA dos not add adjustment. It mearly shifts the adjustment from the bottom to the top.
A 6-18x40mm Buckmaster has 50 MOA of adjustment, That's 25 up and 25 down. Add a 20 moa base and you now have 45 MOA up and 5 moa down: still 50 MOA, not 70 MOA.....
And no, 5 moa left is not good, 10-15 would be better, like the 4.5-14 Buckmaster has. Or you can buy a 10x42mm Super Sniper from SWFA (for around $320.), and you get 125+ MOA of adjustment.
Not a thing wrong with a fixed 10x for banging away at targets. The best thing about a 10x42MM Super Sniper is you can learn on it, and re-sell it here, when you move up in glass, and you will lose very little $$$.
Read some more here. Check out Optics FAQ above this section.
Not to be preachy: but read more now, buy less stuff you will just junk later. Tactical shooting can be addictive...
Oh, and have fun
Re: Base and Rings question
Scopes can give you all kinds of problems. Generally, speaking the more you spend, the better quality you receive and few problems you encounter.
Rings and bases can give you all kinds of problems. Generally speaking....blah blah blah.
You will have to spend $1500+ to get a top notch scope. You only have to go from $30 up to $100+ for a top notch base or set of rings. It is a no-brainer. I'd buy a top notch set of rings and base even it I have a more modest scope. Once you have that set of rings, you never need to worry about them being a problem. When you are trying to figure out the source of poor accuracy, that investment will pay off over and over again.
Badger, Nightforce, Seekins are the top tactical brands: hard to go wrong with them.
Scopes can give you all kinds of problems. Generally, speaking the more you spend, the better quality you receive and few problems you encounter.
Rings and bases can give you all kinds of problems. Generally speaking....blah blah blah.
You will have to spend $1500+ to get a top notch scope. You only have to go from $30 up to $100+ for a top notch base or set of rings. It is a no-brainer. I'd buy a top notch set of rings and base even it I have a more modest scope. Once you have that set of rings, you never need to worry about them being a problem. When you are trying to figure out the source of poor accuracy, that investment will pay off over and over again.
Badger, Nightforce, Seekins are the top tactical brands: hard to go wrong with them.
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