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BREAKING: Massive gun law reform in Puerto Rico takes effect January 1, 2020.. Shall Issue. CCW Reciprocity. Gov't promotion of civilian marksmanship.

Blue Sky Country

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  • SAN JUAN, PUERTO RICO. DECEMBER 15, 2019

    Gun control, an experiment that had been ongoing for years, have proven to be an utter failure. Under current laws, Puerto Rico boasts some of the most draconian anti-firearm legislations in the United States and it's territories. Yet, violent crime has skyrocketed to staggering levels. Even the most dangerous ghettos of many mainland American cities pale in comparison to San Juan and other Puerto Rican metropolitan areas...


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    Arizona -(Ammoland.com)- On December 11, 2019, Governor Wanda Vázquez Garced signed Act No. 168. into law. The new law totally re-writes Puerto Rico firearms law. It is the most sweeping change in firearms law in the history of Puerto Rico.

    Puerto Rico came under the sovereignty of the United States in 1898, about the same time as Hawaii. Puerto Rico was ceded to the United States as the result of the Spanish-American war. In Puerto Rico, the possession of firearms has always been regarded as a privilege, not as a Constitutional Right.

    Puerto Rico had one of the most restrictive firearms laws in the United States, arguably more restrictive than California, Hawaii, or New York. There were only about 225,000 legally owned firearms in Puerto Rico in 2016, giving it one of the lowest levels of legal firearm ownership in the United States, at about 6.6 legal firearms per 100 people.

    Two things seem to have led to the massive reform of Puerto Rico firearms law.

    • First, the actions of the United States Supreme Court in recognizing the Constitutional protections of the Second Amendment in the Heller and later, the McDonald, Supreme Court cases.
    • Second, the utter failure of the extremely restrictive Puerto Rico gun control scheme.
    While Puerto Rico has had extreme infringements on Second Amendment rights, it has had extreme crime and murder rates, far higher than any state in the United States. Puerto Rico's murder rate averages four times the murder rate of the United States as a whole.

    In 2016, the FBI Uniform Crime Report shows Puerto Rico with 19.9 murders per 100,000 population. Louisiana is the closest state with 11.8 murders per 100,000 population. The District of Columbia, as a federal territory, edges out Puerto Rico with 20.4 murders per 100,000. The District of Columbia is one of the few places in the United States that could claim, in 2016, to have more infringements on Second Amendment rights than Puerto Rico.

    Perhaps this is why, when those pushing for a disarmed society compare gun control regimes and crime rates, they conspicuously ignore Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia. 2016 is not an outlier. It is representative of the last 20 years, at least.

    The reason for the passage of Act. No. 168 is stated as the necessity of bringing Puerto Rico law within the protections of the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution.

    Caveat: Act No. 168, and other Puerto Rico law is written in Spanish. What is quoted below are translations to English.

    Given the decisions of the Supreme Federal Court, it is necessary to take action to safeguard and protect the rights of American citizens residing in Puerto Rico, through a new Weapons Law that is consistent with the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution, with decisions of the Supreme Court, and make it clear that, in Puerto Rico, carrying and possessing firearms is a fundamental and individual right, as in the rest of the Nation.
    The most sweeping change in Act No. 168 is to eliminate the restrictive and burdensome requirements of the old law in obtaining a permit to purchase, own, or carry firearms. The new law enacts a shall-issue system that requires a permit to be issued if the applicant meets the legal requirements. The legal requirements are essentially the same as in the United States for firearms ownership; except for a uniform minimum age of 21. This was likely influenced by recent legislation in California, Washington, and Florida.

    Costs under the old system were upwards from $1,500, with no guarantee of obtaining a permit to own a gun at the end of the long process.
    Under the new law, costs are about $200, with a guarantee of a permit, if the applicant does not fall into one of the prohibited categories. The permit is valid for five years. The renewal fee is $100.

    Under the new law, a permit to own includes the right to carry a firearm for defense in public, if the firearm is concealed. Obtaining a permit to carry, under the old system, was even more difficult and costly than obtaining a permit to own a firearm. The government has a limit of 45 days in which to investigate and issue a permit. After a year, the limit is reduced to 30 days.

    Puerto Rico will recognize all other firearm permits issued in the United States or territories of the United States. This warning, in Spanish and English, is to be posted at all ports and airports:
    “FIREARMS WARNING
    Every person, not authorized to have firearms under Puerto Rico laws, and who does not hold a valid weapons permit issued in any State, enclave, possession or territory of the United States of America, who brings a firearm with him/her or in his/her luggage, must give immediate notice to the Ports Authority Security Office and an officer of the Police Bureau of Puerto Rico upon arrival. Noncompliance with this notice may carry prison penalties. The Ports Authority Security Office and/or an Authorized Agent will inform you on how to proceed with your weapon.”
    Under the new law, if a firearms owner purchases more than 20,000 rounds of ammunition in a year; or more than 10 firearms in a year; the police chief may investigate to ensure the ammunition and firearms were purchased for lawful reasons.

    The collection of firearms is specifically protected under the new law. There are no limits to the number of firearms which may be collected.

    Under the new law, “assault weapons” are banned, except for those people with a firearms permit.

    Under the new law, target shooting is to be encouraged by the government of Puerto Rico. The establishment of clubs, shooting organizations, and competitions are to be promoted by the government.

    People without firearms permits will be allowed to shoot at licensed ranges.

    While the requirement to apply and pay for a firearms permit may seem burdensome to gun owners in many states, Act No. 168 is an enormous step toward respecting Second Amendment rights in Puerto Rico.

    Consider: The permit must be issued. The permit includes the right to carry for self-defense. There is complete recognition of all permits issued in the United States. There are, effectively, no limits on the number of firearms or amount of ammunition which may be purchased and used.

    Moreover, the law specifically states its purpose is to bring Puerto Rico under the protections of the Second Amendment of the United States.

    If the Supreme Court further clarifies and restores those protections, as expected, the law will be subject to revision to bring the benefits of the Second Amendment to Puerto Rico.

    The law goes into effect on 1 January 2020.

    Regulations are being written to conform to the new law. If you are traveling to Puerto Rico, it is recommended you determine the details of the regulations before traveling.
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    It is by all means not perfect, such as an "assault weapons" ban that is still in effect along with licensing fees and police scrutiny upon the purchase of more than 20,000 rounds of ammunition or 20 guns, but given the fact that Puerto Rico, with it's history of anti-gun legislation, had made such a startling shift in the right direction, is certainly cause for applause.
     
    Wow, somewhere there is a group of communist leaders in the US crapping their collective pants. The only hope they have is that PR turns into a modern version of the Wild West. If it doesn't that will be a shinning example of where the 2A works. Do not be surprised if some the domestic tactics don't start working their way to PR in the near future. Things like Bloomberg visits and "mass shootings".
     
    SAN JUAN, PUERTO RICO. DECEMBER 15, 2019

    Gun control, an experiment that had been ongoing for years, have proven to be an utter failure. Under current laws, Puerto Rico boasts some of the most draconian anti-firearm legislations in the United States and it's territories. Yet, violent crime has skyrocketed to staggering levels. Even the most dangerous ghettos of many mainland American cities pale in comparison to San Juan and other Puerto Rican metropolitan areas...


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    Arizona -(Ammoland.com)- On December 11, 2019, Governor Wanda Vázquez Garced signed Act No. 168. into law. The new law totally re-writes Puerto Rico firearms law. It is the most sweeping change in firearms law in the history of Puerto Rico.

    Puerto Rico came under the sovereignty of the United States in 1898, about the same time as Hawaii. Puerto Rico was ceded to the United States as the result of the Spanish-American war. In Puerto Rico, the possession of firearms has always been regarded as a privilege, not as a Constitutional Right.

    Puerto Rico had one of the most restrictive firearms laws in the United States, arguably more restrictive than California, Hawaii, or New York. There were only about 225,000 legally owned firearms in Puerto Rico in 2016, giving it one of the lowest levels of legal firearm ownership in the United States, at about 6.6 legal firearms per 100 people.

    Two things seem to have led to the massive reform of Puerto Rico firearms law.

    • First, the actions of the United States Supreme Court in recognizing the Constitutional protections of the Second Amendment in the Heller and later, the McDonald, Supreme Court cases.
    • Second, the utter failure of the extremely restrictive Puerto Rico gun control scheme.
    While Puerto Rico has had extreme infringements on Second Amendment rights, it has had extreme crime and murder rates, far higher than any state in the United States. Puerto Rico's murder rate averages four times the murder rate of the United States as a whole.

    In 2016, the FBI Uniform Crime Report shows Puerto Rico with 19.9 murders per 100,000 population. Louisiana is the closest state with 11.8 murders per 100,000 population. The District of Columbia, as a federal territory, edges out Puerto Rico with 20.4 murders per 100,000. The District of Columbia is one of the few places in the United States that could claim, in 2016, to have more infringements on Second Amendment rights than Puerto Rico.

    Perhaps this is why, when those pushing for a disarmed society compare gun control regimes and crime rates, they conspicuously ignore Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia. 2016 is not an outlier. It is representative of the last 20 years, at least.

    The reason for the passage of Act. No. 168 is stated as the necessity of bringing Puerto Rico law within the protections of the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution.

    Caveat: Act No. 168, and other Puerto Rico law is written in Spanish. What is quoted below are translations to English.


    The most sweeping change in Act No. 168 is to eliminate the restrictive and burdensome requirements of the old law in obtaining a permit to purchase, own, or carry firearms. The new law enacts a shall-issue system that requires a permit to be issued if the applicant meets the legal requirements. The legal requirements are essentially the same as in the United States for firearms ownership; except for a uniform minimum age of 21. This was likely influenced by recent legislation in California, Washington, and Florida.

    Costs under the old system were upwards from $1,500, with no guarantee of obtaining a permit to own a gun at the end of the long process.
    Under the new law, costs are about $200, with a guarantee of a permit, if the applicant does not fall into one of the prohibited categories. The permit is valid for five years. The renewal fee is $100.

    Under the new law, a permit to own includes the right to carry a firearm for defense in public, if the firearm is concealed. Obtaining a permit to carry, under the old system, was even more difficult and costly than obtaining a permit to own a firearm. The government has a limit of 45 days in which to investigate and issue a permit. After a year, the limit is reduced to 30 days.

    Puerto Rico will recognize all other firearm permits issued in the United States or territories of the United States. This warning, in Spanish and English, is to be posted at all ports and airports:

    Under the new law, if a firearms owner purchases more than 20,000 rounds of ammunition in a year; or more than 10 firearms in a year; the police chief may investigate to ensure the ammunition and firearms were purchased for lawful reasons.


    The collection of firearms is specifically protected under the new law. There are no limits to the number of firearms which may be collected.

    Under the new law, “assault weapons” are banned, except for those people with a firearms permit.

    Under the new law, target shooting is to be encouraged by the government of Puerto Rico. The establishment of clubs, shooting organizations, and competitions are to be promoted by the government.

    People without firearms permits will be allowed to shoot at licensed ranges.

    While the requirement to apply and pay for a firearms permit may seem burdensome to gun owners in many states, Act No. 168 is an enormous step toward respecting Second Amendment rights in Puerto Rico.

    Consider: The permit must be issued. The permit includes the right to carry for self-defense. There is complete recognition of all permits issued in the United States. There are, effectively, no limits on the number of firearms or amount of ammunition which may be purchased and used.

    Moreover, the law specifically states its purpose is to bring Puerto Rico under the protections of the Second Amendment of the United States.

    If the Supreme Court further clarifies and restores those protections, as expected, the law will be subject to revision to bring the benefits of the Second Amendment to Puerto Rico.

    The law goes into effect on 1 January 2020.


    Regulations are being written to conform to the new law. If you are traveling to Puerto Rico, it is recommended you determine the details of the regulations before traveling.
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    It is by all means not perfect, such as an "assault weapons" ban that is still in effect along with licensing fees and police scrutiny upon the purchase of more than 20,000 rounds of ammunition or 20 guns, but given the fact that Puerto Rico, with it's history of anti-gun legislation, had made such a startling shift in the right direction, is certainly cause for applause.
    That made my day!
    Been there a few times and there are some very good people there. And some not. Thanks for the post!
     
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    I have only been to Puerto Rico once. Went on a tour of the Bacardi distillery. We showed up on the campus about 9am at this huge open air bar and they handed everyone a handful of drink tickets to try different rums and such. Everything gets foggy after that and I don't remember much of the rest of the day.

    I do remember the plant smelled like molasses though.
     
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    Holy fucking shit......I just read the preamble to Act 168 and it says right in it that this is in response to Heller v DC and McDonald v Chicago.

    This is fucking YOUUUUGE for the peaceful, law abiding people of my home "state" and BAD FUCKING news for the many thugs that terrorize them.

    I have something to say to all those fucking thugs: Tengan cuidado, hijos de puta. De ahora pa lante los Boricuas no van a ser ovejas indefensas.
     
    I'ma quibble with you a little. I don't think you realize how utterly stiffling PR gun laws were up until this Act was signed.

    This is fucking awesome.

    No argument here. I haven’t really looked at PR guns laws. I always assumed they were CA/NY ish in some way. Now I see that they were even worse! I agree this is big for those living there. I also agree with you and others that the precedent PR is setting is awesome even for those living in free states. The simple fact they are discussing the idea that they screwed up is satisfying. I pray this reform passes and ignites further states to do the same. Ultimately I hope for a repeal of all infringements on the 2A.

    Between this news and the fight the citizens Virginia and putting up, I have a bit of hope. Maybe even feeling like this country still possess the spirit of the Revolution.
     
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    Thats awesome to know. Must’ve missed that when reading. Every state in the country should take note of this.
     
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    Holy fucking shit......I just read the preamble to Act 168 and it says right in it that this is in response to Heller v DC and McDonald v Chicago.

    This is fucking YOUUUUGE for the peaceful, law abiding people of my home "state" and BAD FUCKING news for the many thugs that terrorize them.

    I have something to say to all those fucking thugs: Tengan cuidado, hijos de puta. De ahora pa lante los Boricuas no van a ser ovejas indefensas.


    The impetus for this ruling had also been given quite an acceleration by an original suit filed by the Second Amendment Foundation and with help and support from the Ladies of the Second Amendment.

    Where was the NRA on all of this?

    Probably passed out on the couch at Lil' Wayne (Lapierre)'s mansion after raiding his liquor cabinet...
     

    It's not quite that simple.

    Currently residents of PR pay no federal income tax but pay into FICA.

    They have no voting representation in Congress and no electoral college votes.

    So they're kinda getting taxed without representation.

    The current political status is a constitutional quagmire IMO and only sustainable through convoluted court decisions.

    Congress should force the issue: statehood or independence. Go to the polls and cast a binding vote.
     
    I spent a night in San Juan not far from the ports, you could see the cruise ships. If was a scary place. If reminded me of what a military occupied checkpoint might be like. You could see at least a dozen cop cars with lights on stationed at set increments throughout the area. Ever corner had 2 cops stationed on them. Roaming officers everywhere patrolling the area. I am not exaggerating this. It was a massive police presence everywhere.

    Made me wonder just how out of control things must be around there.
     
    It's not quite that simple.

    Currently residents of PR pay no federal income tax but pay into FICA.

    They have no voting representation in Congress and no electoral college votes.

    So they're kinda getting taxed without representation.

    The current political status is a constitutional quagmire IMO and only sustainable through convoluted court decisions.

    Congress should force the issue: statehood or independence. Go to the polls and cast a binding vote.

    Pretty sure PR has voted on his multiple times. Congress has tried to take this up as well.
     
    Pretty sure PR has voted on his multiple times. Congress has tried to take this up as well.
    I know. All the referendums have been non-binding

    I don't get how this is still unsettled...……..since 1952
     
    I spent a night in San Juan not far from the ports, you could see the cruise ships. If was a scary place. If reminded me of what a military occupied checkpoint might be like. You could see at least a dozen cop cars with lights on stationed at set increments throughout the area. Ever corner had 2 cops stationed on them. Roaming officers everywhere patrolling the area. I am not exaggerating this. It was a massive police presence everywhere.

    Made me wonder just how out of control things must be around there.
    Gotta protect the tourist cash cow at all costs
     
    I understand the why.
    I was way more worried as to the need.
     
    PR was completely fucked up by Hurricane Maria...a direct hit from a Category 5 is known to do that.

    One of my company’s employees lost literally everything he owned - rental properties, businesses, etc. - from the storm and was living with his wife and kids in what remained of his house until he could get them on a plane to Florida where they had family. They were fairly well prepared and had a generator so they could run their refrigerator and fans, but didn't run it at night because roving gangs of armed bandits would listen for running generators and rob/beat/rape anybody who ran one overnight - even in otherwise nice neighborhoods.

    Hearing his stories were REALLY eye-opening as to what the realities of a major natural SHTF would be...and I imagine he'll be quick to arm himself once this goes into effect.

    Given how seriously left the governance of PR has been and currently is, this could be valuable for our cause going forward.
     
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    I should note a qualifier on my above post.

    it was before that cat 5 hit the island.

    No way I would stay there overnight again if there were any way to avoid it.
     
    The Condado area of San Juan is almost back to pre-Maria, and in my experience is quite nice and safe, even into the night.

    Old San Juan? ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
     
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    I go to Puerto Rico a lot. San Juan and aguadilla. Place is a cesspool of government dependency. I really hope this sparks change but I doubt it.
     
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