Anyone try these buffers? Im curious if their claims to reduce recoil are true. I want to try it in my LR-6.5 rifle.
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Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
I would stay away from hydraulic buffers. They really aren’t that good an idea. If you want something different get a flat wire buffer spring.
I would stay away from hydraulic buffers. They really aren’t that good an idea. If you want something different get a flat wire buffer spring.
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
I've had a Hydraulic buffer in duty rifle POF .223 and its been problem free for me. Not that an AR has much kick but it did reduce the recoil. However, I don't know if it can justify the $90 it costs. Also I can see how it leaves room for a reliability issue to occur. Hope this helps.
Tactical Tom, whats does a flat wire buffer spring do? This is the first i've heard of it.
I've had a Hydraulic buffer in duty rifle POF .223 and its been problem free for me. Not that an AR has much kick but it did reduce the recoil. However, I don't know if it can justify the $90 it costs. Also I can see how it leaves room for a reliability issue to occur. Hope this helps.
Tactical Tom, whats does a flat wire buffer spring do? This is the first i've heard of it.
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
If your using a 5.56 look at a Spikes Tactical Heavy Buffer, I use one and combined with the flash hider I use I can tell a difference, and its much less than the hydraulic, not bashing them just giving you an option. If you ar using a .308 / 7.62x51 I would look at Slash Heavy Buffers. I have seen that quite a few Hide members use them and like them.
If your using a 5.56 look at a Spikes Tactical Heavy Buffer, I use one and combined with the flash hider I use I can tell a difference, and its much less than the hydraulic, not bashing them just giving you an option. If you ar using a .308 / 7.62x51 I would look at Slash Heavy Buffers. I have seen that quite a few Hide members use them and like them.
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
I use one of the Slash extra heavy buffers in my MWS, along with a Battlecomp BABC and the combination makes the rifle extremely controllable. Recoil is straight back,no muzzle rise, and comparable to an M4 with the A2. Spent last weekend shooting, fired 520 rounds with zero malfunctions and no soreness following. Pretty effective system.
I use one of the Slash extra heavy buffers in my MWS, along with a Battlecomp BABC and the combination makes the rifle extremely controllable. Recoil is straight back,no muzzle rise, and comparable to an M4 with the A2. Spent last weekend shooting, fired 520 rounds with zero malfunctions and no soreness following. Pretty effective system.
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jolly roger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I use one of the Slash extra heavy buffers in my MWS, along with a Battlecomp BABC and the combination makes the rifle extremely controllable. Recoil is straight back,no muzzle rise, and comparable to an M4 with the A2. Spent last weekend shooting, fired 520 rounds with zero malfunctions and no soreness following. Pretty effective system. </div></div>
Since the MWS uses a standard AR-15 length buffer, are you using an AR-15 XH buffer from slash? Or do you have a different length tube now, and are using the ar-10 style buffer?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jolly roger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I use one of the Slash extra heavy buffers in my MWS, along with a Battlecomp BABC and the combination makes the rifle extremely controllable. Recoil is straight back,no muzzle rise, and comparable to an M4 with the A2. Spent last weekend shooting, fired 520 rounds with zero malfunctions and no soreness following. Pretty effective system. </div></div>
Since the MWS uses a standard AR-15 length buffer, are you using an AR-15 XH buffer from slash? Or do you have a different length tube now, and are using the ar-10 style buffer?
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
they break a lot, just stick with H-Buffers
they break a lot, just stick with H-Buffers
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 9mmkungfu</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jolly roger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I use one of the Slash extra heavy buffers in my MWS, along with a Battlecomp BABC and the combination makes the rifle extremely controllable. Recoil is straight back,no muzzle rise, and comparable to an M4 with the A2. Spent last weekend shooting, fired 520 rounds with zero malfunctions and no soreness following. Pretty effective system. </div></div>
Since the MWS uses a standard AR-15 length buffer, are you using an AR-15 XH buffer from slash? Or do you have a different length tube now, and are using the ar-10 style buffer? </div></div>
The MWS uses a longer buffer tube than the AR-15,in order to accommodate the longer buffer used. When I replaced the original SOPMOD stock with the UBR, the UBR's shorter(AR-15) tube necessitated the use of a shorter buffer and modified spring, hence the XH AR-10 buffer and modified spring from Clint. The system works flawlessly. I have nearly 800 rounds down the tube so far, without one malfunction. I can also vouch for the Magpul LR-20 mags, as they are all I use in this rifle.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 9mmkungfu</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jolly roger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I use one of the Slash extra heavy buffers in my MWS, along with a Battlecomp BABC and the combination makes the rifle extremely controllable. Recoil is straight back,no muzzle rise, and comparable to an M4 with the A2. Spent last weekend shooting, fired 520 rounds with zero malfunctions and no soreness following. Pretty effective system. </div></div>
Since the MWS uses a standard AR-15 length buffer, are you using an AR-15 XH buffer from slash? Or do you have a different length tube now, and are using the ar-10 style buffer? </div></div>
The MWS uses a longer buffer tube than the AR-15,in order to accommodate the longer buffer used. When I replaced the original SOPMOD stock with the UBR, the UBR's shorter(AR-15) tube necessitated the use of a shorter buffer and modified spring, hence the XH AR-10 buffer and modified spring from Clint. The system works flawlessly. I have nearly 800 rounds down the tube so far, without one malfunction. I can also vouch for the Magpul LR-20 mags, as they are all I use in this rifle.
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jolly roger</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 9mmkungfu</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jolly roger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I use one of the Slash extra heavy buffers in my MWS, along with a Battlecomp BABC and the combination makes the rifle extremely controllable. Recoil is straight back,no muzzle rise, and comparable to an M4 with the A2. Spent last weekend shooting, fired 520 rounds with zero malfunctions and no soreness following. Pretty effective system. </div></div>
Since the MWS uses a standard AR-15 length buffer, are you using an AR-15 XH buffer from slash? Or do you have a different length tube now, and are using the ar-10 style buffer? </div></div>
The MWS uses a longer buffer tube than the AR-15,in order to accommodate the longer buffer used. When I replaced the original SOPMOD stock with the UBR, the UBR's shorter(AR-15) tube necessitated the use of a shorter buffer and modified spring, hence the XH AR-10 buffer and modified spring from Clint. The system works flawlessly. I have nearly 800 rounds down the tube so far, without one malfunction. I can also vouch for the Magpul LR-20 mags, as they are all I use in this rifle.
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Roger that, I didn't realize you switched out the tube also.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jolly roger</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 9mmkungfu</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jolly roger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I use one of the Slash extra heavy buffers in my MWS, along with a Battlecomp BABC and the combination makes the rifle extremely controllable. Recoil is straight back,no muzzle rise, and comparable to an M4 with the A2. Spent last weekend shooting, fired 520 rounds with zero malfunctions and no soreness following. Pretty effective system. </div></div>
Since the MWS uses a standard AR-15 length buffer, are you using an AR-15 XH buffer from slash? Or do you have a different length tube now, and are using the ar-10 style buffer? </div></div>
The MWS uses a longer buffer tube than the AR-15,in order to accommodate the longer buffer used. When I replaced the original SOPMOD stock with the UBR, the UBR's shorter(AR-15) tube necessitated the use of a shorter buffer and modified spring, hence the XH AR-10 buffer and modified spring from Clint. The system works flawlessly. I have nearly 800 rounds down the tube so far, without one malfunction. I can also vouch for the Magpul LR-20 mags, as they are all I use in this rifle.
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Roger that, I didn't realize you switched out the tube also.
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
the enhanced spring is from Tubb--I use one in a piston 3-gun
--got it from Brownell's--smoother function; not sure about recoil reduction--always wanted to try an Enindine
the enhanced spring is from Tubb--I use one in a piston 3-gun
--got it from Brownell's--smoother function; not sure about recoil reduction--always wanted to try an Enindine
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
I have heard the hydraulic buffer leak after around 1000 rounds.
I have heard the hydraulic buffer leak after around 1000 rounds.
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jolly roger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I use one of the Slash extra heavy buffers in my MWS, along with a Battlecomp BABC and the combination makes the rifle extremely controllable. Recoil is straight back,no muzzle rise, and comparable to an M4 with the A2. Spent last weekend shooting, fired 520 rounds with zero malfunctions and no soreness following. Pretty effective system. </div></div>
Do you have a link for that Slash extra heavy buffer?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jolly roger</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I use one of the Slash extra heavy buffers in my MWS, along with a Battlecomp BABC and the combination makes the rifle extremely controllable. Recoil is straight back,no muzzle rise, and comparable to an M4 with the A2. Spent last weekend shooting, fired 520 rounds with zero malfunctions and no soreness following. Pretty effective system. </div></div>
Do you have a link for that Slash extra heavy buffer?
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
Those heavy buffers are 100 dollars. Wouldn't any heavy buffer be the same? If the rifles works fine why use a heavy buffer? What does a H buffer and flat spring do for a lmt mws?
Seems you could take any cheap buffer and put tungsten powder in it and have a slashes buffer.
http://www.amazon.com/Golfsmith-Tungsten-Powder-Pound/dp/B0000BYNW7
Also brownells has a tungsten buffer for 38 and a spikes for 34.
http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=EC0120
Those heavy buffers are 100 dollars. Wouldn't any heavy buffer be the same? If the rifles works fine why use a heavy buffer? What does a H buffer and flat spring do for a lmt mws?
Seems you could take any cheap buffer and put tungsten powder in it and have a slashes buffer.
http://www.amazon.com/Golfsmith-Tungsten-Powder-Pound/dp/B0000BYNW7
Also brownells has a tungsten buffer for 38 and a spikes for 34.
http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=EC0120
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
http://www.heavybuffers.com/ar10carbine.html
Look halfway down the page, XH CAR-10 buffer, 6.5 oz. model.
http://www.heavybuffers.com/ar10carbine.html
Look halfway down the page, XH CAR-10 buffer, 6.5 oz. model.
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
As much as I don't care for Olympic Arms,I don't like the spring noise either so I installed one of their pneumatic buffers in one of my AR's several years ago to try it out,after 4 years and 1000 rds plus,it is still trouble free:
http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?option=...1&Itemid=37
As much as I don't care for Olympic Arms,I don't like the spring noise either so I installed one of their pneumatic buffers in one of my AR's several years ago to try it out,after 4 years and 1000 rds plus,it is still trouble free:
http://www.olyarms.com/index.php?option=...1&Itemid=37
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: problemchild</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Those heavy buffers are 100 dollars. Wouldn't any heavy buffer be the same? If the rifles works fine why use a heavy buffer? What does a H buffer and flat spring do for a lmt mws?
Seems you could take any cheap buffer and put tungsten powder in it and have a slashes buffer.
http://www.amazon.com/Golfsmith-Tungsten-Powder-Pound/dp/B0000BYNW7
Also brownells has a tungsten buffer for 38 and a spikes for 34.
http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=EC0120 </div></div>
He does also offer tungsten slugs that go into your std buffer, just simpily swap out the factory steel ones for his and presto heavy buffer.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: problemchild</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Those heavy buffers are 100 dollars. Wouldn't any heavy buffer be the same? If the rifles works fine why use a heavy buffer? What does a H buffer and flat spring do for a lmt mws?
Seems you could take any cheap buffer and put tungsten powder in it and have a slashes buffer.
http://www.amazon.com/Golfsmith-Tungsten-Powder-Pound/dp/B0000BYNW7
Also brownells has a tungsten buffer for 38 and a spikes for 34.
http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=EC0120 </div></div>
He does also offer tungsten slugs that go into your std buffer, just simpily swap out the factory steel ones for his and presto heavy buffer.
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
doesn't really "reduce" it, but it changes the way recoil feels. you might like it or not.
i have one in an old 3gun rifle with 1500 rnds on it, mostly in matches. no problems with mine, but i have heard other reports of issues, particularly in cold weather. I also shot it a some in my FA ar15 just to see what it's like. again, no problems, but i didn't like it much in the mg.
offhand, i'd say if you like to tinker on game guns with the buffer, in combination with an adjustable gas and an aluminum bolt carrier, go for it. otherwise, skip it.
i've long been curious about rob_s' post in this thread http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=37932, but never curious enough to ask.
doesn't really "reduce" it, but it changes the way recoil feels. you might like it or not.
i have one in an old 3gun rifle with 1500 rnds on it, mostly in matches. no problems with mine, but i have heard other reports of issues, particularly in cold weather. I also shot it a some in my FA ar15 just to see what it's like. again, no problems, but i didn't like it much in the mg.
offhand, i'd say if you like to tinker on game guns with the buffer, in combination with an adjustable gas and an aluminum bolt carrier, go for it. otherwise, skip it.
i've long been curious about rob_s' post in this thread http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=37932, but never curious enough to ask.
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
I have an Armalite AR-10T .308, Magpul Stock and I put one of the Enidine Hydraulic buffers in my rifle. The only reason I did was because I had another upper custom made for .450 Marlin.
This upper has an 18" ported barrel and coupled with the hydraulic buffer the recoil is negligible. It's like shooting a .243 if that.
I hope this helps.
I have an Armalite AR-10T .308, Magpul Stock and I put one of the Enidine Hydraulic buffers in my rifle. The only reason I did was because I had another upper custom made for .450 Marlin.
This upper has an 18" ported barrel and coupled with the hydraulic buffer the recoil is negligible. It's like shooting a .243 if that.
I hope this helps.
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I too was wondering about these buffers. For 90 bucks though...
I have no experience with these, but I'd imagine that a muzzle brake does a more effective job at reducing recoil, provided the extra noise doesn't bother you.
I too was wondering about these buffers. For 90 bucks though...
I have no experience with these, but I'd imagine that a muzzle brake does a more effective job at reducing recoil, provided the extra noise doesn't bother you.
Re: Buffer Technologies hydraulic buffer
+1 for Clint at www.heavybuffers.com
I bought a SS heavy buffer from him back in 2005 for my AR10T. No problems at all. Recoil impulse is a little different, but it does "feel" better. I bought the buffer because at the time the AWB had sunset, Armalite wasn't selling their carbine AR10 buffer/ buffer tubes separate (you had to buy a whole AR10 carbine) and Slash's buffer was the only way to get an AR15 buffer tube to work on the 10.
I don't regret it ONE bit.
To stay on topic, I avoid hydraulic buffers.
+1 for Clint at www.heavybuffers.com
I bought a SS heavy buffer from him back in 2005 for my AR10T. No problems at all. Recoil impulse is a little different, but it does "feel" better. I bought the buffer because at the time the AWB had sunset, Armalite wasn't selling their carbine AR10 buffer/ buffer tubes separate (you had to buy a whole AR10 carbine) and Slash's buffer was the only way to get an AR15 buffer tube to work on the 10.
I don't regret it ONE bit.
To stay on topic, I avoid hydraulic buffers.
