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But At Least She Was Eating Fresh, Right?

I have a friend on that department and I've done ridealongs there. That is one of the finest departments there is. SPPD officers are damn good people.
 
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Seriously? She’s as fucked up as a soup sandwich. He saved her life. If that drunk, high, retarded bitch hit my kid I’d execute her in the street with my pocketknife.

Amen. What a idiot. 19 and on a great path. The officer did a great job and absolutely took a piece of shit off the road before she killed someone.
 
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I am not a very big fan of authority, have a libertarian bent to my politics, and generally believe we have ten times as many laws as is necessary. I agree with the vast majority of what you say @ArmyJerry . About the closest I've ever come to being a cop was drawing shore patrol duty (armband and a night stick). That said, in any traffic stop I have to believe that when those *DING*s start piling up it puts everyone on edge. Not that this young woman was some desperado, but there's no question she's out of control, and could easily become desperate once she figures out it's all coming to a head. How are they supposed to know what she's going to do drunk and high driving around like she owns the place? Ol' boy is just standing there looking on making sure no funny business happens (like the drunk/high idiot bolts) and this ends peacefully. They seem like cool customers to me.

"It seems like you're just flying through life by the seat of your pants not making very good choices. This may be a good time in your life to evaluate what you're doing." - Officer Friendly

Damn officer. I could not have said it better myself! She's 19. She's totally salvageable, but she has to want to salvage. Maybe this ordeal will learn her something. Maybe not, but I get that the officers actually care about her, and don't want her to become a typical repeat customer. They don't want to know her. What more could you ask for? We don't want robot law enforcement. We want OFFICERS. An "officer" is a leader, and I don't see how in a traffic stop they could have demonstrated more leadership in the execution of their duties.

Or, are you just fucking with me?
 
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I gotta say those cops looked threatening and about to attack her, all lined up hands on guns, that is a definite threat. out of control gang in blue.

I am reading this as sarcasm? No? Or am I missing something?

I am not a very big fan of authority, have a libertarian bent to my politics, and generally believe we have ten times as many laws as is necessary. I agree with the vast majority of what you say @ArmyJerry . About the closest I've ever come to being a cop was drawing shore patrol duty (armband and a night stick). That said, in any traffic stop I have to believe that when those *DING*s start piling up it puts everyone on edge. Not that this young woman was some desperado, but there's no question she's out of control, and could easily become desperate once she figures out it's all coming to a head. How are they supposed to know what she's going to do drunk and high driving around like she owns the place? Ol' boy is just standing there looking on making sure no funny business happens (like the drunk/high idiot bolts) and this ends peacefully. They seem like cool customers to me.

"It seems like you're just flying through life by the seat of your pants not making very good choices. This may be a good time in your life to evaluate what you're doing." - Officer Friendly

Damn officer. I could not have said it better myself! She's 19. She's totally salvageable, but she has to want to salvage. Maybe this ordeal will learn her something. Maybe not, but I get that the officers actually care about her, and don't want her to become a typical repeat customer. They don't want to know her. What more could you ask for? We don't want robot law enforcement. We want OFFICERS. An "officer" is a leader, and I don't see how in a traffic stop they could have demonstrated more leadership in the execution of their duties.

Or, are you just fucking with me?

I think he is fucking with you. Just my take. I think it is pretty clear they did a great job and at the same time took an appropriate amount of caution. There is a shit ton of risk on traffic stops. The officers don’t know as you pointed out what the person might do. Especially when they are under the influence. Doesn’t take much time to find videos of officers being shot at and people running all the time from routine traffic stops. Many officers are great people who put their lives on the line every day for the well-being of their communities which most of the people are strangers to them but they gladly do it. And before you rant I know hey are not all great people. I said many or even most. Personally I feel law enforcement on a whole deserves our respect. I say thank you for your service. But again that is me.
 
Oh. This thread isn't what I thought...

Thought it said eaten fresh.


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This is not the thread that you were looking for.

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Welp, I am fkn around a bit, but I didn't see the need to start the swarm with that second fat ass cop, yes they were taking threatening position, like a bullet to the back of the head position behind the driver.

A few years ago this could not have bugged me but with the rash of rambo hero complex cops shooting people that didn't need shooting, I look at the police as threats now, I have to after seeing that cop execute the guy in the hotel hallway and walk. Cant trust the armed agents of the state anymore, they are above the law and have a propensity to either be cold blooded murderers or cover up for the ones that are in the gang of blue. Sorry if you are offended but police do not rate automatic respect anymore, they rate automatic threat and fear status., they cant be trusted in a lawless society that they are responsible for bringing about.

Even simple traffic stops are used to abuse peoples rights as a norm, and you guys act surprised when people who used to love you and look out for you now fear and mistrust you. You all are in trouble.


murderer and he walked



I am reading this as sarcasm? No? Or am I missing something?



I think he is fucking with you. Just my take. I think it is pretty clear they did a great job and at the same time took an appropriate amount of caution. There is a shit ton of risk on traffic stops. The officers don’t know as you pointed out what the person might do. Especially when they are under the influence. Doesn’t take much time to find videos of officers being shot at and people running all the time from routine traffic stops. Many officers are great people who put their lives on the line every day for the well-being of their communities which most of the people are strangers to them but they gladly do it. And before you rant I know hey are not all great people. I said many or even most. Personally I feel law enforcement on a whole deserves our respect. I say thank you for your service. But again that is me.
 
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In reference to your video clip posting, you kind of have to share the blame for the murderer walking free with the local citizens who excused the killing when they were on the jury.
 
Welp, I am fkn around a bit, but I didn't see the need to start the swarm with that second fat ass cop, yes they were taking threatening position, like a bullet to the back of the head position behind the driver.

A few years ago this could not have bugged me but with the rash of rambo hero complex cops shooting people that didn't need shooting, I look at the police as threats now, I have to after seeing that cop execute the guy in the hotel hallway and walk. Cant trust the armed agents of the state anymore, they are above the law and have a propensity to either be cold blooded murderers or cover up for the ones that are in the gang of blue. Sorry if you are offended but police do not rate automatic respect anymore, they rate automatic threat and fear status., they cant be trusted in a lawless society that they are responsible for bringing about.

Even simple traffic stops are used to abuse peoples rights as a norm, and you guys act surprised when people who used to love you and look out for you now fear and mistrust you. You all are in trouble.


murderer and he walked



Well I guess I misread your intent. So you have made it clear you were serious so I guess I will take a serious position also. I totally don’t agree. As I mentioned I said most police are good people. Just as most of society I believe is good. Their are shit bags in every part of our society no matter the employment field. The problem is rule of law has been lost not because of the police but from people who have decided to disregard law. People feel they don’t have to or need to listen to the police. As a result as I stated the police are at risk of losing their lives. I don’t see murder in that video I see a dumbass piece of shit that needed to learn to follow directions. Don’t reach to your back. How many times does he have to be told what to do. His hand clearly went behind him again. In so many of the police videos that people are all up in arms about it is so clear that the perp is failing to comply. Just do what your told. Don’t blame the cops for being hyper vigilant on their own safety because they have become targets of political games. In my view you play stupid games you get stupid consequences. I have been pulled over a few times in my life and have never been concerned about my wellbeing. Guess my question is what have you done that has you so worried?
 
W54 its a system slanted toward letting murders who happen to wear a badge go free, there is a separate set of laws and rules for them, why do you think they never get arrested on the spot for actual murder, you guessed it, police union and the separate laws for the police only. separate and unequal law.

Shnibby, If a cop is feels unsafe doing his job without resorting to killing citizens he or she should not be wearing badge or carrying a gun, petrified little Chihuahuas they are. And here you are protecting a murderer in blue. Dont blame the citizens for fearing for their lives when they are around petrified cops who kill the fist second they get spooked, if you dont have the balls dont apply for the job. Your defense of that fucking murderer/execution is a prime reason the public should fear for their lives and take appropriate actions anytime they interact with the police, their lives are literally threatened by the feelings of a cowardly officer that might be an easily scared cop which there seems to be a lot of .. Dont blame citizens for being hyper vigilant around police Many. Many more innocent civilians are killed by cops than cops by citizen. Your gang is going to lose more and more.

People dont have to listen to police, what country do you think you live in n who the fuck do you think you are.

In reference to your video clip posting, you kind of have to share the blame for the murderer walking free with the local citizens who excused the killing when they were on the jury.
 
W54 its a system slanted toward letting murders who happen to wear a badge go free, there is a separate set of laws and rules for them, why do you think they never get arrested on the spot for actual murder, you guessed it, police union and the separate laws for the police only. separate and unequal law.

Shnibby, If a cop is feels unsafe doing his job without resorting to killing citizens he or she should not be wearing badge or carrying a gun, petrified little Chihuahuas they are. And here you are protecting a murderer in blue. Dont blame the citizens for fearing for their lives when they are around petrified cops who kill the fist second they get spooked, if you dont have the balls dont apply for the job. Your defense of that fucking murderer/execution is a prime reason the public should fear for their lives and take appropriate actions anytime they interact with the police, their lives are literally threatened by the feelings of a cowardly officer that might be an easily scared cop which there seems to be a lot of .. Dont blame citizens for being hyper vigilant around police Many. Many more innocent civilians are killed by cops than cops by citizen. Your gang is going to lose more and more.

People dont have to listen to police, what country do you think you live in n who the fuck do you think you are.


The problem with what you said is that you have convicted them of murder before a trial. When an officer has an in the line of duty shooting standard policy is administrative leave pending an investigation. So no not arrested immediately and convicted as a murderer. If it was truely murder I stand behind what you say completely. I am not saying they are scared what I am saying is they are being placed in a position where the police are at risk more due to attitudes such as yours.

I know what country I am in and fully recognize the need for law and respecting it. My point is that the police come at our call when things are going bad and people are breaking the law. My point was that if you do what you are told then things go better. Even if you are right it can be sorted later. In the videos I was referring to people who are breaking the law fail to comply then people like you go all ape shit and defend a shit bag instead of rule of law. Doing what you are supporting only tears down our society more.

Most cops are great people and so are most citizens, diff being most cops will cover for a murderous cop as Schnibbly did above and most citizens will remove a murderer from their midst one way or another.

And citizens won’t ? I doubt most cops would either. Holy shit give me a break.

If you have any evidence to support that assertion, please let us know. It would seem that "some" should replace "most" in that sentence.

I think it is no different than school shooters or active shooters in other locations. Very few people in our society do these types of things but it is highly publicized. Same for police. There are tens of thousands of officers out there and a few of them are shit bags like it said but that gets the publicity. That does not make the majority bad. Simple deduction. But if you want to live in a world where you think most cops are bad your choice. I suggest the next time you have a confrontation with one try resisting and pulling some of the shit you defend. You might be right in your mind or wrong in mine but still dead. Your choice.
 
Most cops are great people and so are most citizens, diff being most cops will cover for a murderous cop as Schnibbly did above and most citizens will remove a murderer from their midst one way or another.

"Great people" don't cover for a murderous cop. Yet most cops will cover for a murderous (or dishonest or abusive) cop. So by definition, they are not great people.
 
And it wasn’t a threat. Funny you think it was. Was more of a if you think you are so right try it. See how it goes for you. I on the other hand will do as I am told and cooperate. Better yet I will not do stuff that requires the police to get involved with me. Bet my experience will go better. But hey I bet the law is just out to get you. Heard that one many times.
 
Feel free to lick their boots.

Not licking anyone’s boots. I was raised with a healthy respect for authority (parents, teachers, police officers and such). Something that has been lost in our society and we are not better off for it.

You are a grovelling subject, not a free man.

Not at all. I am however a law abiding citizen who as stated above still has respect. Keep kidding yourself that you are making our country better while you contribute to the destruction of rule of law. I don’t have to condemn all or most police officers and chose to be in conflict with them to be free.
 
At what point do you question the "Law" if ever?

Not licking anyone’s boots. I was raised with a healthy respect for authority (parents, teachers, police officers and such). Something that has been lost in our society and we are not better off for it.



Not at all. I am however a law abiding citizen who as stated above still has respect. Keep kidding yourself that you are making our country better while you contribute to the destruction of rule of law. I don’t have to condemn all or most police officers and chose to be in conflict with them to be free.
 
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I look at the police as threats now, I have to after seeing that cop execute the guy in the hotel hallway and walk. Cant trust the armed agents of the state anymore, they are above the law and have a propensity to either be cold blooded murderers or cover up for the ones that are in the gang of blue.

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Even simple traffic stops are used to abuse peoples rights as a norm, and you guys act surprised when people who used to love you and look out for you now fear and mistrust you. You all are in trouble.

I could not agree more. When police have lost the support of gun-owning conservatives, police have no friends left.
 
They have not lost support just the automatic pass on credibility they used to have. I peel the onion back a few layers on everything government now a days and it all started because of the reaction of the cops on this site to the murder of that homeless guy in New Mexico on a hill side a few years back.
 
They have not lost support just the automatic pass on credibility they used to have. I peel the onion back a few layers on everything government now a days and it all started because of the reaction of the cops on this site to the murder of that homeless guy in New Mexico on a hill side a few years back.

Started for me more than a decade ago, with all the fallout from no-knock warrants on wrong addresses.

One in particular was this one...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathryn_Johnston_shooting

Really opened my eyes to some of the less-publicized ways to die while doing not-a-damn-thing.
 
At what point do you question the "Law" if ever?

When your life is not on the lineis not the time. In my view if you are being held at gun point that is the time to not question or challenge. In my experience the only times I have had run ins with the cops has been when I have been doing something wrong and I knew it. But have never been in a position that they felt they needed to use force. I have not been randomly harassed by law enforcement. So again I ask what are you doing that has you worried? And would suggest maybe stop doing stuff that is making you be on their radar. But again that is me. I have not once said you should never question. Have even said in certain situations I agree with you. But I won’t throw all officers in together because of a few. And won’t support convicting them of murder over the internet or back shit bags that can’t figure out to comply when they it is time to comply. We can argue all night and not agree. Especially if you can’t see there is a time to not challenge.