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Buying from The CMP

dustiningram07

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the civilian marksmanship program is a program selling surplus weapons to civilian clubs, i am active duty army so i am eligible...they are two hours away...anyone have experience with them?
I am stationed in GA but they are in AL...can someone give my thier take on the program and advice to quickly get a gun.
thanks!
also, if anyone has a 10/22 bull barrel for sale...i'll take it instead of messing with these guys.
 
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For eligibility, you have to belong to a member club and have proof of shooting experience? One of the local clubs I belong to is on their list. I've got my CCW Permit, certificates from a few pistol classes, and IDPA score sheets. So I should be all set. Is there anything I am missing?

Thanks.
 
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sled, you've got it right, if you join a member club you meet the other requirement with a CCW. The Civilian Marksmanship Program is a great program. They have junior and adult programs to encourage marksmanship and their sales program can't be beat. The stuff like ammo that they have for sale you can't get comparable prices if you buy commercially, and their rifle sales program is outstanding, as are the people that work there. If you are close to Anniston, I'd drive there for a visit and a purchase.
 
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As a side note, they will accept a ccw permit in place of the match requirements.
 
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You cant go wrong buying from the CMP.
The stores always have more stock and products available then what is shown on the website. If I was within a few hours, I would make the run occasionally.
If you have something specific in mind you want try calling them first. They are a great bunch to deal with.
 
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+1000 my service grade garand is f'n beautiful and they overnighted it to me... took about 30 days!
 
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Buy with confidence especially if your buying government surplus guns. Each one is carefully inspected and graded, you get what grade you pay for.

The Civilian Marksmanship Program (http://www.nraila.org/issues/factsheets/read.aspx?id=104)

Continuing a 101-year history of service to the nation
In 1903, the War Department Appropriations Bill authorized the establishment of the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice as well as the National Rifle and Pistol Trophy Matches, a concept strongly supported by President Theodore Roosevelt, an avid rifle shooter. The measure provided a great boost to civilian marksmanship training, an effort begun a generation earlier by the National Rifle Association.1

At its first meeting, the Board determined "That every facility should be offered citizens outside of the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, and organized militia [National Guard] to become proficient in rifle shooting, and that this purpose can best be accomplished by means of rifle clubs."2

In 1905, another step forward was taken, when President Roosevelt signed Public Law 149 into effect, authorizing the sale, at cost, of surplus military rifles, ammunition, and related equipment to rifle clubs meeting requirements specified by the Board and approved by the Secretary of War.

The National Defense Act of 1916 authorized the War Department to distribute arms and ammunition to organized civilian rifle clubs under rules established by the Board, provided funds for the operation of government rifle ranges, and opened all military rifle ranges to civilian shooters. Today, many military base rifle, pistol and shotgun ranges are used by civilian shooting clubs and associations, providing excellent opportunities for training, practice and competition.

The National Defense Act also created the Office of the Director of Civilian Marksmanship (DCM), under the Board. For many years, the DCM’s programs were managed by the Army. However, the National Defense Authorization Act of 1996 (Public Law 104-106, effective date: 2/10/96) transferred the DCM’s function to a new, private, non-profit corporation chartered specifically for this purpose. The new entity, the Corporation for the Promotion of Rifle Practice and Firearms Safety, Inc., is directed by a nine-member board of directors initially appointed by the Secretary of the Army. The restructuring of the CMP, earnestly supported by the NRA, was opposed by anti-gun Members of Congress, who would prefer to abolish the program entirely, eliminating its firearm safety training activities and destroying its rifles and ammunition.

The CMP continues to administer the historic Excellence-in-Competition program and to sponsor the National Trophy Matches, which include the President’s Rifle and Pistol Matches, fired with Service Rifles (such as the AR-15) and Service Pistols. Congress has directed the Corporation to give priority to programs that reach as many young Americans as possible.

The CMP has no future federal funding and the Corporation must rely entirely upon income generated through sales of rifles, ammunition and related equipment; affiliation and match fees; etc. The Corporation is tax-exempt and may solicit funds and services by donation or request. All funds collected by the Corporation may be used only to support the official functions of the CMP. The DCM is a civilian employed by the Board of Directors and is the chief administrative officer for the daily operations of the CMP.

The CMP is authorized to loan, sell or lease rifles, ammunition, targets and other supplies to qualifying clubs and associations. CMP may provide .22 rimfire ammunition and .177 caliber pellets for use by shooters ages 10-20, based on junior members’ participation in the affiliated organization’s programs. Youth programs conducted by the Boy Scouts of America, 4-H, American Legion, and other civic groups are a priority. Competitors 20 years of age and under may receive travel stipends to attend the National Trophy Matches, the Small Arms Firing School held during the matches, and special training clinics.

The CMP is authorized to sell surplus M1 "Garand" rifles, ammunition, rifle repair parts and accessories, and competition gear such as shooting jackets and targets, to individual members of its affiliated organizations actively engaged in marksmanship training. Match-grade AR-15s may be purchased through the CMP, by affiliated organizations.

For more information about the CMP, CMP Clubs, Excellence-in-Competition matches, and purchase procedures for M1 and AR-15 rifles, and other equipment, call 888-267-0796 (7:00 a.m.-3:30 p.m. E.S.T.), refer to the CMP Internet homepage at www.odcmp.com, or write CMP at Post Office Box 576, Port Clinton, Ohio 43452.

1. The NRA was established in 1871 and held its first "Annual Matches" in 1873, at the legendary Creedmore Range, on Long Island, N.Y. Later, the matches were moved to Sea Girt, New Jersey. Today, the NRA’s National Championships (a variety of matches in highpower rifle, smallbore, pistol and muzzleloading arms) and the CMP’s National Trophy Matches (for service rifles and service pistols) are held during the summer, at Camp Perry, Ohio, east of Toledo on Lake Erie.

2. Today, at the state and local levels, there are nearly 1,000 shooting clubs and associations affiliated with the CMP, and 7,000 shooting clubs and associations affiliated with the NRA.
 
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I would definately check them out. I've considered making the 8 hours drive but if it were 2 hrs I would go often. I got two 40X .22s from them last year by mail.
 
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He is AD. NO club needed! For special affiliates include: Congressionally chartered veterans' organizations such as the VFW, AL, DAV, MCL, etc. U.S. Military services (active or reserves), National Guard, to include retirees. Professional 501(c)3 law enforcement organizations and associations such as the FOP, NAPO, NSA, etc
Take your Mil ID and your birth certificate (not needed if an O). Go to the South store and buy 12 M1's.

That's what I did at the North store.

Look here:
http://www.thecmp.org/eligibility.htm
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">For eligibility, you have to belong to a member club and have proof of shooting experience</div></div>

Being active duty, he's coverd ref: Citizenship, Proof of Shooting, and Club.

Fill out the forms a head of time, have the required sig. notorized, walk in, hand them you forms, copy of ID card and money, walk out with your rifle.

The problem you are gonna run into is, extra money, cause you are gonna find more stuff to buy.

CMP is a geat program, not just sales but their shooting and instructional programs. As far a CMP Sales goes, you wont find better service is something dosnt work out.

Those Kimbers you are referring to are great shooters, Remember ever gun they sell at the CMP stores have been gone over by armorers, you can be assured they will work and they are safe to shoot. But if something wierd does happen.....like I said, excellant service.
 
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For you guys who want a Remington 40X, they are going to be selling about 700 of them soon. Last time they were selling for $375 for the standard barrelled ones and $425 for the heavy barrelled ones......well worth the money. Prices will most likely be higher this time around, but this maybe the last time the CMP releases such a large amount at once.
 
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Sheldon, where are you getting your intel? I just went over to the CMP forum to find out more about this and I couldn't find anything.
 
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Rarebreed, thanks! I was aware of the barrelled receivers being available, but haven't heard that the full 40X's would be available again soon. I missed the last batch and would really like to get in the next time it is offered.

Thanks!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Carter Mayfield</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rarebreed, thanks! I was aware of the barrelled receivers being available, but haven't heard that the full 40X's would be available again soon. I missed the last batch and would really like to get in the next time it is offered.

Thanks! </div></div>

You notice that these 40X are stripped receivers.
I was looking Numrich and they are out of the bolts for the rifle.
May be a problem finding the parts needed.
 
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You can get a bolt from PTG (which I was considering)... but if there are more 40X's on the way, I will wait and buy the full gun. I think the bolt is ~$250, so the price of the barreled receiver would be around $600. The full gun is less than that when offered.

The aftermarket on a 40X has been around $800. The CMP sells them for a lot less. But you need to get certified and shoot in a sanctioned match. I have finally gotten around to doing that.

They also have great deals on ammo. I was buying FGMM for around $.60 a shot and they were offering Eley Tenex at ridiculously low prices.
 
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Drop in bolt from PTG is a 199 bucks. We are making 190 of them and 100 are sold so if you need one let the order desk know soon. Thanks Dave
 
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Anyone know if the commercial link to the anschutz and savage are new rifles? sounds like it but was wondering.
 
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I called the South store today and the individual I talked to didn't know anything about any 40xs being released. What gives?
 
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This is all I know..... http://www.thecmp.org/forums/showthread.php?t=23710

They have been shutting down the programs that use the .22 rimfire rifles for years now and most have already been turned in given over to the CMP and sold off through them. Small amounts still trickle in, but the end is near. This coming release may be the last chance to get a shot of them, through the mail anyway. Orest Michaels the chief over at the CMP has mentioned the very small amount received in the future may just be sold at their stores rather than through the mail.
 
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Hmmmm. Works for me....

This was Orest Michael's response to a query about possible future sales of surplus rimfire rifles......

"Orest
CMP Chief Operating Officer Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Anniston, AL
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we will never have large quantities of any particular model .22 again. They are for the most part gone out of the military and high school systems. Small quantities (3 or 4 ) do trickle in each month.

Whenever we do have any .22s up for sale - the total quantity per model will likely be no more than 100-200. Except for the 40X next year - we'll have about 700 of those. "
 
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Thanks for the info, and the link worked for me. I hope I can get one of the 40Xs when they are released.

Erik