Rifle Scopes Can't seem to quite find the scope I want next...

[memilanuk]

I've been exploring the options available from different manufacturers a bit... but I can't quite seem to find what I (think I) want...


<ul style="list-style-type: disc">[*]Variable, in the 3-10x / 4-16x / 3-15x-ish range[*]External target knobs[*]First Focal Plane[*]Mil-dot based reticle (prefer one w/ hash marks over plain old circles/dots[*]Mil/cm based clicks[*]30mm (or bigger) main tube[*]Illuminated reticle [*]Parallax adjust - don't care that much whether side-focus or front A/O[*]40-44mm front objective... really don't want/need 50mm bell on the gun(s) I plan on mounting this scope on.[*]Price ceiling of $1k[/list]

It seems like there are a *lot* of scopes that come very, very close... but either have a 50mm bell or don't have adjustable parallax correction.

Just wanted to make sure I'm not missing some obvious contenders out there...

Thanks,

Monte

 

[Will Fennell]

Re: Can't seem to quite find the scope I want next...

Bushnell 3-12x44 Tactical.....

Bushnell Elite Tactical Rifle Scope 30mm...t Reticle Matte

 

[ChielScape]

Re: Can't seem to quite find the scope I want next...

same scope, cheaper here

http://www.theriflescopestore.com/bubueltari3i.html

 

[memilanuk]

Re: Can't seem to quite find the scope I want next...

Hmmm... thats odd.

I'd seen the image shown [url = http://bushnell.com/products/scopes/riflescopes/eliteTactical/]here[/url] that looks like it should have illumination and side focus parallax adjust, but the image on the page for that particular [url = http://bushnell.com/products/scopes/riflescopes/eliteTactical/ET3124F/]model[/url] doesn't show the illumination controls? Thats why I guess I overlooked it.

Thanks for pointing it out!

Anything else? Only one scope filling that particular niche?

 

[Roy Thorne]

Re: Can't seem to quite find the scope I want next...

Nightforce?

 

[memilanuk]

Re: Can't seem to quite find the scope I want next...

Roy,

No offense intended, but did you actually look at the list in the first post?

Monte

 

[milo 2.0]

Re: Can't seem to quite find the scope I want next...

The Weaver tactical almost fits the bill. But they have moa adjustments.

 

[mouse07410]

Re: Can't seem to quite find the scope I want next...

You may have to compromise and sacrifice one of your requirements, as I for one am not aware of any scope that would fit your bill.

Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50 FFP with EBR-1 MRAD reticle would be the closest (MIL/MIL, FFP, acceptable magnification range, good MilHash reticle, etc. etc) - but it has 50mm objective so it fails one of your long list of requirements.

<span style="font-style: italic">I must say I don't get this "no 50mm bells" thing. You may not <span style="text-decoration: underline">need</span> it, but it would hardly hurt your applications...?</span>

Is this 6mm difference a deal-breaker for you? If it is - keep looking. If not - you've found your scope.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: milo-2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Weaver tactical almost fits the bill. But they have moa adjustments. </div></div>

That's incorrect. The 3-15 FFP illuminated weaver tactical has mil adjustments. It's the non illuminated that has MOA adjustments.

 

[cjgemm]

Re: Can't seem to quite find the scope I want next...

Bushnell 3-12x44 Tactical is it for now... Here is hoping that SWFA is listening as they have before.

 

[milo 2.0]

Re: Can't seem to quite find the scope I want next...

Redneck,
I stand corrected.
Thanks, I knew that I've seen that scope before.

 

[memilanuk]

Re: Can't seem to quite find the scope I want next...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mouse07410</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-style: italic">I must say I don't get this "no 50mm bells" thing. You may not <span style="text-decoration: underline">need</span> it, but it would hardly hurt your applications...?</span> </div></div>

As with most things, it depends.

For my AR 'precision' carbine, yes. I've ran a 50mm tube on there in the not-so-recent past, and while yes, it works great, it just does not look/feel right to me. I don't want/need a baby Hubble roosting on top of my gas gun. Given the choice, I'd even wish for smaller (half-height) turrets to go with the smaller front objective.

For my 10PC-SR in .308 Win... I still really like to keep things low and tight if I could. I've had a 50mm tube on there recently, and again while it works, I'd rather have something smaller / more compact for this gun as well. As it is, the Bushnell 4200 3-12x42 SF mil/mil FFP and illuminated reticle sounds like just the ticket. Still wish the knobs were a little shorter...

The Weaver Tactical 3-15x50 mil/mil FFP w/ illuminated EDMR maybe finding a new home on my 12LRP in 6.5CM.

Honestly, I started out pretty excited about the Vortex Viper PST line, but after reading various reports and reviews, I started thinking the 2.5-10 (what I orginally thought I wanted) was not quite what I was looking for. The 4-16x50 FFP mil/mil w/ illum. EBR reticle is still right in there w/ the Weaver... but I've had a number of Weaver scopes over the years... only one of them has ever disappointed me at all, so I kind of have a soft spot for 'em

 

[ChielScape]

Re: Can't seem to quite find the scope I want next...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mouse07410</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You may have to compromise and sacrifice one of your requirements, as I for one am not aware of any scope that would fit your bill.

Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50 FFP with EBR-1 MRAD reticle would be the closest (MIL/MIL, FFP, acceptable magnification range, good MilHash reticle, etc. etc) - but it has 50mm objective so it fails one of your long list of requirements.

<span style="font-style: italic">I must say I don't get this "no 50mm bells" thing. You may not <span style="text-decoration: underline">need</span> it, but it would hardly hurt your applications...?</span>

Is this 6mm difference a deal-breaker for you? If it is - keep looking. If not - you've found your scope.

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The 2.5-10x44 falls sort of in his specs.

 

[steve123]

Re: Can't seem to quite find the scope I want next...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cjgemm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bushnell 3-12x44 Tactical is it for now... Here is hoping that SWFA is listening as they have before. </div></div>

My only complaint with the Bushnell 3-12 is the tight eyebox. On a AR where at times you'll be runnin and gunnin it might not be the best choice.I'm thinking about sending mine in for a check up because it seems to be getting worse.

 

[mouse07410]

Re: Can't seem to quite find the scope I want next...

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChielScape</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mouse07410</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You may have to compromise and sacrifice one of your requirements, as I for one am not aware of any scope that would fit your bill.

Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50 FFP with EBR-1 MRAD reticle would be the closest (MIL/MIL, FFP, acceptable magnification range, good MilHash reticle, etc. etc) - but it has 50mm objective so it fails one of your long list of requirements.

<span style="font-style: italic">I must say I don't get this "no 50mm bells" thing. You may not <span style="text-decoration: underline">need</span> it, but it would hardly hurt your applications...?</span>

Is this 6mm difference a deal-breaker for you? If it is - keep looking. If not - you've found your scope.

</div></div>
The 2.5-10x44 falls sort of in his specs.</div></div>
Except that I don't think 2.5-10x44 is available with FFP. Luckily it's his problem, not mine.

<span style="font-style: italic">For it it were me - I'd taken that PST FFP and use it happily ever after, except that I'd pick 6-25x50 model.

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