CCW vs CW Turret and reticle movement.

[GUNNER75]

My attempt to make this a very simple question....

On CW turret, when you dial right the reticle moves left.
On CCW turret, when you dial right the reticle moves right.

Say a guy had a S&B 3-27 with CCW turret engravings. The internals are the same I would assume...... Could that guy purchase CW turrets (simply opposite engraving on turrets) and change that to a CW turret optic?

I've never come across write ups on the topic. Did I just miss them or ignore them along the way.

Blaze away if you feel the need.

 

[GUNNER75]

 

[GUNNER75]

 

[Trigger Monkey]

That's not how they work.

That silver sub-assembly is what determines if you have a CW or CCW scope, not the turret cap.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

Or... Just think "where am I moving bullet impact" instead of "which direction am I moving the reticle"...

 

[GUNNER75]

Understood on elevation, what about windage?

 

[redneckbmxer24]

Understood on elevation, what about windage?

You're moving the bullets impact the direction the knob tells you to, it's that simple. I'm not sure why you're trying to mind fuck yourself with other thinking. This is how all ballistic software gives out corrections too. Holding up or dialing up moves bullet impact up holding right or dialing right moves bullet impact right.

 

[GUNNER75]

 

[GUNNER75]

 

[GUNNER75]

 

[GUNNER75]

 

[GUNNER75]

I can accept I have my wires crossed and I've lost my marbles, etc.

Windage only.....
Leupold MK4 Dial R CCW reticle travels Left
S&B Dial R CCW and reticle travels right (WRONG)
Leupold MK8 Dial R CCW reticle travels Left
Tangent Dial R CCW reticle travels Left....need to confirm
NXS Dial R CCW reticle travels Left
Khalas Dial R CCW reticle travels Left
Swamp Fox Dial R CCW reticle travels Left

 

[Trigger Monkey]

I think you're reading the S&B windage turret wrong.

 

[Guthwine]

The turret is basically a screw. Either left or right hand threaded. Changing the turret cap will not change the direction it moves.

 

[GUNNER75]

You're moving the bullets impact the direction the knob tells you to, it's that simple. I'm not sure why you're trying to mind fuck yourself with other thinking. This is how all ballistic software gives out corrections too. Holding up or dialing up moves bullet impact up holding right or dialing right moves bullet impact right.

You are right about me mind fucking myself. I've got a handle on it now and I'll never forget it. This is a "show/example" rifle that I rarely shoot at matches. Shot a fun match last weekend with it and dialed wrong on the first cold bore target. I made the mistake of looking at another shooters rifle in which happened to be CW S&B. Did fine shooting once I made the adjustment and completed the match. What it come down to is I simply viewed the L & R as opposite. (Yes read the turret incorrectly). Quite embarrasing to be honest. Perfect example of overthinking simple.

 

[Trigger Monkey]

I've done it, shoot long enough and you'll make silly mistakes. One time I walked a quarter mile to a shooting spot and realized I'd left the bolt back at the truck, still safely ensconced in its foam lair.

 

[Guthwine]

Anyone who says that he never dialed in the wrong direction is a liar.

 

[GUNNER75]

I got home, grabbed my S&B Rifle, set up on tripod in my shop door, just had to confirm. Yep, sure enough......(with zero mind fucks factored in), dialed elevation, evaluated wind, dialed for giggles, sent it. (wind was minimal) DING! Dumb ass.........follow the arrow............

 

[FuhQ]

Typically Counter-Clockwise (CCW) scopes are American style, and you spin the turret to the right, and it dials up on your elevation, and they have a right-side windage (or RSW) adjustment, like 95% of the scopes on the market.

European style is a Clockwise (CW) elevation turret where you spin it to the left and it dials up on your elevation, with a left-side windage turret (or LSW).

Personally, I prefer CCW/RSW scopes. All 3 of my Kahles K-series scopes are CCW/RSW setups to keep things simple with all my other scopes.

 

[Raffy]

still safely ensconced in its foam lair

Plus 10 points for this.

 

[Rocketmandb]

I've done it, shoot long enough and you'll make silly mistakes. One time I walked a quarter mile to a shooting spot and realized I'd left the bolt back at the truck, still safely ensconced in its foam lair.

How about hoofing a 60lb target and stand a quarter mile...

"You bring the spray paint?"

 

[TheOE800]

How about hoofing a 60lb target and stand a quarter mile...

"You bring the spray paint?"

Oof

 

[Chris1972]

It’s a screw.

 

[Habu34]

Hello from France

All markings on the turrets indicate where the impact is moving.

Turrets in CounterClocWise CCW : Imagine that turrets are bolts containing the impact.
In this exemple you turn the turrets CounterClockWise to move the impact Up and Right.

Turrets in ClockWise CW : Imagine that turrets are stationary nuts driving their inner bolts containing the impact.
In this exemple you turn the turrets ClockWise to move the impact Up and Right.
With ClockWise turrets, you can also imagine screwing the reticle towards the impact like in the drawing below

Source : https://precisionrifleblog.com/2014/08/22/tactical-scopes-mechanical-performance-part-2/

Initial drawing from Azur on french tirmaillyforum :
Source: http://www.tirmaillyforum.com/mildot/viewtopic.php?t=253718&p=2421921#p2421763

 

[Habu34]

.

 

[Chris1972]

Hello from France

After multiple changes …

View attachment 8138253

Turrets in CounterClocWise CCW : The turrets are bolts containing the impact.

Turrets in ClockWise CW : The turrets are nuts driving the bolts containing the impact.

All markings on the turrets indicate where the impact is going

Habu34

PS: Thanks to azur on the french tirmailly forum for his initial drawing:

Tir Longue Distance • Afficher le sujet - CW OU CCW

One of us is confused. You have a CW and a CCW scope pictured, but the drawings can only be correct for one of them. They should spin in opposite directions to achieve the same poi shift. Not opposite to achieve opposite results.

Maybe

 

[Habu34]

Hi Cberndt, thank you

I made another change by removing arrows,

Habu34