I can't believe this cop risked his life and still wouldn't shoot the driver:
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This is what you get when no matter why you shoot someone you get criticized.
Totally missed his chance to shoot down into the car from the roof like a die hard movie.
Totally missed his chance to shoot down into the car from the roof like a die hard movie.
He should have been putting rounds through the roof as soon as the guy stepped on it.
No, he should have stepped out of the way of the car.
His cup and saucer grip technique was on point though!
The officer had every legal and moral right to shoot the violent thug who was trying to kill him. The thug driver deserved to die for his attempted murder. But ideally he should've shot from standing on ground when the car started moving toward him.
Most dept policies dont allow you to put yourself in the path of a car, then shoot the driver when they dont comply. Old school policing, ya that happened a lot, not any more.
If I was the driver I would have gone through a car wash.
maybe he wanted to hang 10 on the car
I think they do wait far too long to shoot than they should to hell with running after a crook bullets are much faster .
I think they do wait far too long to shoot than they should to hell with running after a crook bullets are much faster .
All of that for a burnt out license plate bulb.
Should have Tokyo drifted into the side of the train with the interloper on the roof.
Should have Tokyo drifted into the side of the train with the interloper on the roof.
Many departments allow officers to shoot a driver who is using a car as a deadly weapon against an officer or civilian. Do you support that reasonable use of force- or oppose it?
As an armed civilian, if I were chasing a thug who just committed a violent crime- I'd empty a mag into a car if that's what it took to stop him from fleeing.
That may be why he was stopped by LE, but that's not why he fled and attempted to kill an officer- he probably had an illegal gun, drugs, child porn, etc, in the vehicle and dumped it before they could apprehend him.
As an armed citizen, if you were not directly involved in the crime, as a victim or otherwise you would end up in prison in more than a few states.
Any idiot jumping on the hood of a car and hoping that will stop a scumbag, deserves the ambulance ride.
Be careful who you help, because the same cops who pat you on the back will be cuffing and stuffing you a few mins later.
Not what happened here. What happened here is akin to handing a bad guy a weapon, and then trying to justify you had cause to use deadly force. He forced a potential deadly force encounter, when it should have been merely a pursuit. You may disagree, but this is laid out very plainly in policy and law all over the country, and has been that way for a long time. This entire event was dumb as shit.
If someone is trying to run you down, and you have no escape, light the car up if you want(police or civilian). You step in front of a car and get all “Respect my authority”, and light the driver up, you're fucked.
To your last scenario, thats not gonna end well for you.
Back story. Dude had an outstanding arrest warrant for forgery. The police report falsifies how he ended up on the hood.
“The police department’s initial recounting of the incident indicated that McCarty had been struck by Guider’s car before he went onto its hood. And McCarty told a local radio station that Guider quickly accelerated, “forcing me onto the vehicle itself.”
“ District Associate Judge Joseph McCarville sentenced Guider to up to five years of prison to be served separately from the Illinois incarceration.
McCarville acknowledged that “Officer McCarty probably should have just stepped aside and let you go, because you weren’t wanted for murder,” but said Guider had no reason to be fearful before he tried to flee and then endangered the officer’s life.”
“The police department’s initial recounting of the incident indicated that McCarty had been struck by Guider’s car before he went onto its hood. And McCarty told a local radio station that Guider quickly accelerated, “forcing me onto the vehicle itself.”
“ District Associate Judge Joseph McCarville sentenced Guider to up to five years of prison to be served separately from the Illinois incarceration.
McCarville acknowledged that “Officer McCarty probably should have just stepped aside and let you go, because you weren’t wanted for murder,” but said Guider had no reason to be fearful before he tried to flee and then endangered the officer’s life.”
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He should never have stepped in front of it
Many don't.
And you'd be charged in this jurisdiction, I don't agree with it but that's how it be
How else would the government artificially inflate the criminal population in order to install a police state other than making it costly for men to defend their own while forcing them to live amongst criminals with their hands tied. Only a fool would back the blue that serves and protects such a corrupt and vile government. All the left wing shit you like to point out and the authoritarian shit that I point out via gov’t and its accomplices is a direct result of these statists threatening violence while forcing the agenda set forth by tyrants.
Cops are afraid to get sued or put in jail even if their lives are in danger
That rarely happens as politicians know they need men to carry guns on their behalf in order to rape, steal, and murder in the name of government. A criminal gov’t mafia cannot exist without their LEO’s willingness to force the will of tyrants for a paycheck.
I bet if they give you an extra 50mg a day the meds will work better. You think its fucked up now, just wait until Pedo Joe starts building that railroad across the Indian Ocean or puts the dead queen of England in charge of the state department.
The government using its police impoverished and murdered people in mass and called it covid. That is fucked up. The government is not only allowing a foreign invasion, but paying men (border patrol and leo) to assist it. Pretty fucked up too. Billions are being stolen from us and funneled back into the pockets of politicians and their handlers under the illusion of big bad russia. A massive tax hidden to redistribute wealth hidden from view as inflation is putting the screws to people. Every single one of these criminal acts are possible because of the protection and violence of the gov’ts police. Couldn’t happen without them as people only take it because they look down the barrel of a gun held by big government statists with a badge.
I would think someone who doesn’t think these are big deals must be the crazy one.
It would be pretty embarrassing to be shot by someone using the tea cup grip.
I'm sure he also uses the terms magazine and clip interchangeably.
I'm sure he also uses the terms magazine and clip interchangeably.
My comments reflect my frustration at the decline of our republic- a serious decline due to the intentionally cancerous policies of, mainly, democrats. Democrat policies intentionally destroyed the nuclear family, freedom, American exceptionalism, masculinity, our history, our institutions, voter registration/election integrity...
In a sane America, we'd have no problem with an LEO using deadly force to stop a driver under these conditions (outstanding warrant for forgery). It's absurd the officer almost died because of the criminal behavior of that oxygen thief.
So yeah, I'm for a sea change in our country- a move back to sanity and logic, max freedoms for us tax paying law abiding Citizens, harsh treatment of criminals, long prison sentences, quick executions, and a huge expansion of the ROE in which Citizens and LE can use deadly force against the criminal element. Why should government have a monopoly on violence as an effective tool to reduce crime?
There are just way too many criminals, illegal aliens, and visa overstayers walking free amongst us.
Bullets are cheap- we just need the laws to change to allow the necessary purge to take place. It's time Americans took back our constitutional republic from the Democrats and RINOs.
In a sane America, we'd have no problem with an LEO using deadly force to stop a driver under these conditions (outstanding warrant for forgery). It's absurd the officer almost died because of the criminal behavior of that oxygen thief.
So yeah, I'm for a sea change in our country- a move back to sanity and logic, max freedoms for us tax paying law abiding Citizens, harsh treatment of criminals, long prison sentences, quick executions, and a huge expansion of the ROE in which Citizens and LE can use deadly force against the criminal element. Why should government have a monopoly on violence as an effective tool to reduce crime?
There are just way too many criminals, illegal aliens, and visa overstayers walking free amongst us.
Bullets are cheap- we just need the laws to change to allow the necessary purge to take place. It's time Americans took back our constitutional republic from the Democrats and RINOs.
Can't say I disagree. Problem is I used to think conservatives and liberals were a 50/50 split in the US. Or I'd even buy the 40/40/20 model where 40% are hardline in either corner and the remaining 20% sit on the fence and swing the vote based on their whims that election cycle.
What I've seen the last 8ish years has me rethinking that very much. I think the libs VASTLY outnumber conservatives in the US and it's getting worse by the day.
I think conservatives band together and vote in greater numbers and that's why they had to steal an election and put POTATUS in office.
Worse still the libs are emboldened by getting away with stealing an election and forcing the COVID vaccines and lockdowns on the entire country and getting away with all of it scot free. Thus they'll continue to lie, cheat, and steal to get their way.
Life is still too good here for most people to risk what really needs to be done. By the time it's bad enough for people to feel like taking action, it'll probably be too late
What I've seen the last 8ish years has me rethinking that very much. I think the libs VASTLY outnumber conservatives in the US and it's getting worse by the day.
I think conservatives band together and vote in greater numbers and that's why they had to steal an election and put POTATUS in office.
Worse still the libs are emboldened by getting away with stealing an election and forcing the COVID vaccines and lockdowns on the entire country and getting away with all of it scot free. Thus they'll continue to lie, cheat, and steal to get their way.
Life is still too good here for most people to risk what really needs to be done. By the time it's bad enough for people to feel like taking action, it'll probably be too late
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