currious about all these bolt guns and 308 vs 338

[black_ump]

ok well i dont think i will get a bolt gun any time soon but iam currious about a few while i wait.

tikka tactical 308
remington 700 330 lm ( i have been keeping up with the post btw )

remington tactical 308 with detachable box mag
sako trg 22 in 308 or 338

my question is pretty basic for the price which of these is the most accurate for the money ?

which has the best ergo's and is most reliable ? and which has a fair ammount of after market accessories ?


now 308 vs 338lm

i would love to get a 338 lapua mag rifle but when i price the ammo and reloading components it just seems as if its way to expensive to really shoot and practice with, i can get 308 brass and bullets and new dies for a really cheep price.

i do have some extended ranges to shoot at but i think a 300 yard zero might be to short for this rifle

i would like your opinion on which is more economical caliber

 

[deadly0311]

Re: currious about all these bolt guns and 308 vs 338

why in the world do you need a 338? It makes about as much sense as trying to make a full auto bolt gun. The 308 and 338 have absolutely nothing in common other than they go boom. Alot can be learned with a good 308. That said, id get a 700P and rock on.

As to your "economical" caliber the 338LM or the 308, you cant be serious there, its obvious. And just how experienced are you in shooting long distance? And i mean further than 3-500 yds. The 338 would be OVERKILL for you right now. As to the zero range, just zero at 100 and rock on

 

[Dogtown]

Re: currious about all these bolt guns and 308 vs 338

A more economical alternative to .338LM is .300WM, but it honestly doesn't carry the distance the way the .338LM does.

 

[ORD]

Re: currious about all these bolt guns and 308 vs 338

Uh...yeah...the 308 is definitely a MUCH better way to go in terms of simple economics. Brass, bullets, powder (more of it) will all cost you MUCH more with the 338LM. Also, unless you are planning to shoot beyond 1,000yds, the 338 is kinda wasted.

A 308 bolt action seems like the obvious choice. You are already running a 308/7.62 in your MSG-90 clone so you are familiar with the cartridge, reloading, components, etc. It is much, MUCH cheaper to reload for and to practice with compared to the 338. And, if you are shooting quality ammo, components out of a decent rifle, there is no reason that you can't stretch the 308's legs to 1,000.

As to rifle options for a 308 bolt action...they are VAST. The TRG-22 is an excellent rifle (which you listed). The cost more than your average Tikka or Remington and "accessories" are fewer and expensive (but again...what accessories do you need other than bipod, scope mount, rings and scope). The Tikkas are also very nice for a cheaper alternative to the TRG and their out of the box accuracy is good. Same can be said for something like a 700P, LTR or SPS Tactical. Remington 700's have plenty of aftermarket support for stocks, accessories, parts, etc.

 

[ZLBubba]

Re: currious about all these bolt guns and 308 vs 338

+1 for deadly

Definitely start with a 308, the reasons are numerous. Secondly, you can't go wrong with the Rem700P if you're looking for an economical shooter. I've heard great things about Tikka, but I don't have any experience with them. You can get about as many aftermarket accessories for the 700 action as you can an AR, and that's saying a lot.

 

[black_ump]

Re: currious about all these bolt guns and 308 vs 338

ya i know what you mean the 308 vs 338 as far as price of stuff is silly.

and ORD your right i already have the 308 semi so if i ever get a bolt it would be silly to not get it in 308, i would already be buying the powder and stuff so...

just in a way i think it would be nice to have a " bad ass huge rifle " and the remington 700 in 338 is in my range

 

[Goin'Hot]

Re: currious about all these bolt guns and 308 vs 338

If you want cheap practice that's still effective, why not go 223 with a 75 gr amax or the like. A high bc 223 bullet will be VERY similar balistically to the 308 and cheaper to shoot.

If you want a 338, don't let us stop you. Practical or not!

 

[black_ump]

Re: currious about all these bolt guns and 308 vs 338

i guess the better way of saying this now that i have though it over is more like this. what out side of longer distance what does the 338 lm have over the 308 ?

i shoot a semi auto 308 right now ( hk msg90 a2 ) and i really enjoy it it has taken alot of work but its almost a sub moa gun iam still working on a load but have shot some moa groups at 1 and 200 yards, and out side of getting better reloading equipment to get more precision reloads the gun it self is fine.

so i have though about going the bolt gun way some day and getting a big bore gun, i have though about a scout in .376 styer but their are so many good looking 338 guns out their and if the gains are worth it i would like to get one, if the gains arent really worth it i would stick with a 308, i dont live in the desert the average "long range" shot here in my section of pa would be 300 tops unless i wanted to travle to longer fields.

after really thinking about it ill stick with 308 so lets all discuss the guns mentioned above

 

[desertHK]

Re: currious about all these bolt guns and 308 vs 338

I can punch my 308 to 1K easily. I can stretch it to about 1200 yards, but it becomes less predictable especially in windy condition.

With the 300 WM, I punch it to 1550 with predictable hits. When it gets to around 1 mile, it becomes less predictable, especially in windy condition.

With my 338LM, I punch it to about 1815 yards with reasonable hits. However it's running out of steam at that range.

For a true 2000 and onward, I feel that a 375 CT is the way to go. Can you shoot a 338LM at 2K? Hell yes. but why waste bullets when you can get there better and in style with a 375 CT. (my next build).

In the end, if you are only going to shoot up to 300 yards, or less than 1K, stick with the 308 caliber. To maximize your accuracy, bolt gun is going to have an edge over gas gun, although at 500 yards and less, some gas guns are very capable of keeping up with the accuracy of a bolt gun.

 

[Beale338]

Re: currious about all these bolt guns and 308 vs 338

If you want a 338lm then get a 338lm. Whether it is for the cool factor or you are actualy going to reach out with it, I say it's your gun get what you want!

 

[samnev]

Re: currious about all these bolt guns and 308 vs 338

I have a Remmy PSS and a TRG 22 in 308. While the PSS is quite a bit cheaper the TRG shoots circle aroud the PSS. Not that the Pss isn't accurate, it is. Just that the TRG is much more so. At least for me. I'd go the TRG 22 in 308 over the 300 Win or the 338 Lapua.

 

[CK_32]

Re: currious about all these bolt guns and 308 vs 338

Go .308

 

[mwroseberry]

Re: currious about all these bolt guns and 308 vs 338

I personally zero at 300yrds with my 308 but that's just me. If you have a mil dot I'd def. Zero at 300.