My Axiom seems to throw the shot brass inconsistently, sometimes it just practically falls out, other time it goes a couple feet to right where I would think it would go. Use only Hornady Match 140 ELD. Anything to look at before sending it back to Curtis? Appreciate any help.
Curtis Axiom not throwing Brass very far
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Im not familiar with the Curtis actions so bare with me. Is it a mechanical ejector?
If so, it all depends on how hard you work the bolt. If you run it hard, it should throw the brass a good ways. If you're running it like it's a fragile glass statue, it probably wont leave the action.
If it's not, there may be crud stuck behind the ejector. Pull it out and spray it out with brake clean and put it back together and see if that changed anything.
If so, it all depends on how hard you work the bolt. If you run it hard, it should throw the brass a good ways. If you're running it like it's a fragile glass statue, it probably wont leave the action.
If it's not, there may be crud stuck behind the ejector. Pull it out and spray it out with brake clean and put it back together and see if that changed anything.
It is a push feed with a mechanical ejector, and it totally matters how fast you work the bolt. I would guess that you are working the bolt inconsistently rather than it being a problem with the action.
Put some spent brass into battery and try ejecting it gently and fast to test.
Put some spent brass into battery and try ejecting it gently and fast to test.
hmmm. are you 100% on that?
i handled an axiom for the first time this week, (my buddy just got one). i have an origin with mechanical ejector and his ejected the same no matter how fast/slow i ran the bolt.
not doubting you, and maybe i just wasn't paying attention enough. but i do remember being like "so this is what an action without mechanical ejection is like"
There is a base line amount of force (from a spring?) in the ejector when you get to the point where you actuate the ejector (it will not remain in the breach), but it will definitely throw it farther if you run the bolt fast. If I'm clearing a live round or dealing with a malfunction I put my free hand over the breach to keep it there, because it still going to throw it, but much less if I work it slow.
Isn't that exactly what he's saying...not that it's not throwing, but that it's different distances.
It may be a plunger. I'm not a gunsmith. I just know how it behaves when you're shooting. If you go slow it stays close and if you rip it they go further.
I've never had neat piles on a stage where they're all going exactly the same place. Only the direction is consistent.
Isn't that exactly what he's saying...not that it's not throwing, but that it's different distances.
It may be a plunger. I'm not a gunsmith. I just know how it behaves when you're shooting. If you go slow it stays close and if you rip it they go further.
I've never had neat piles on a stage where they're all going exactly the same place. Only the direction is consistent.
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So looking it up I do see "plunger" (I guess that's not "mechanical") with M16 style extractor for shucking brass "consistently". I think they mean it removes them from the breach consistently, and not that they are thrown the same distance every time.
Are you saying this means the same distance no matter how fast you work the bolt? Because, that's not my experience.
I would experiment a little before you get talked into sending it back to the factory as a mechanical failure.
Are you saying this means the same distance no matter how fast you work the bolt? Because, that's not my experience.
I would experiment a little before you get talked into sending it back to the factory as a mechanical failure.
Also, check to make sure that your brass are not hitting your scope knob upon exit.
Whatever you find or decide, do yourself a favor and call Curtis to ask before you send it in. They are very responsive and helpful and should be able to help you decide what your issue is.
Whatever you find or decide, do yourself a favor and call Curtis to ask before you send it in. They are very responsive and helpful and should be able to help you decide what your issue is.
Thanks guys, it seems to work better if you are smooth and slow rather than working the bolt hard. I'm going to put a new scope on this week, so I will run it with no scope and see if it was the scope knob.
I've got a Vector and it tosses the brass very consistantly. It shouldn't matter how fast you cycle the bolt. Check for debris under the extractor claw, if you are running brass with damaged rim, and make sure the ejector plunger moves cleanly without any drag.
It’s a plunger.
So follow Minnesotamulishas advice to clean out the recess. Should be a cross pin that keeps it retained. Drive that pin out but be careful when you remove the punch so that the ejector and spring don’t go firing out. Clean it of any brass shavings or dirt. Blast from an air compressor is good, again, just make sure you have already taken the spring out so that it doesn’t go flying out to be lost forever. When you reinstall it make sure that it can compress all the way flush again.
Yes, it’s spring loaded. It will eject with the same force every time. Obviously how soon that force is cleared of the ejection port will change how much of that forced is put into the case vs dragging it slow letting some of the energy go into the action wall.
So follow Minnesotamulishas advice to clean out the recess. Should be a cross pin that keeps it retained. Drive that pin out but be careful when you remove the punch so that the ejector and spring don’t go firing out. Clean it of any brass shavings or dirt. Blast from an air compressor is good, again, just make sure you have already taken the spring out so that it doesn’t go flying out to be lost forever. When you reinstall it make sure that it can compress all the way flush again.
Yes, it’s spring loaded. It will eject with the same force every time. Obviously how soon that force is cleared of the ejection port will change how much of that forced is put into the case vs dragging it slow letting some of the energy go into the action wall.
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Well, I just put a mag in mine and worked it, and I was totally wrong. It throws it further gently than when I slam it. 
I guess I just never paid attention as it’s never FTF/FTE.
I guess I just never paid attention as it’s never FTF/FTE.
Tried it tonight no scope, live rounds(loaded rounds) and they would fall back into the action. What does that tell you guys.
Ejector moves in and out, doesn’t feel like it is binding up. Lot brass coloring on boltface. I’ll try cleaning out, wish the action came with instructions to tear bolt down clean and reassemble.
I have this action. It isn't what I would call a strong ejection nor weak, but it is consistant. As advised above, clean ejector and check extractor to be sure a chunk hasn't broke off sending brass at a bad angle.
Also mine ejects loaded rnds just fine.
Also mine ejects loaded rnds just fine.
Film a couple ejections with your phone and slow them down. I have seen a coupe people claiming they had failure to eject. After watching the video we could see the brass hitting the windage knob and going back in the action. High rings or scope with shorter knob solved the problem.
My axiom is super inconsistent with live rounds. Contacted CC and they sent me a new ejector. Still same problem. 140 eld-m factory ammo. It almost feels like it ejects "too late" as it bounces back into the action. Sounds exactly what you are seeing.
When I'm actually firing it/ using unloaded brass, its always reliable and kicks out every time. As others stated it does matter how consistent you run your bolt as well. If I'm running my bolt super hard it will throw the brass differently then if I am "limping" them out running it slow.
I would suggest that you pick up some brass/ save some next time you go shooting and practice with those to get your throw down.
Should be noted that my axiom is new, sounds like yours is too, so maybe this live round ejection issue will resolve once it's broken in.
Got mine about a year ago, never ejected live rounds well. I don’t think I’m running the bolt wrong, seems to do it wether you run hard or easy. Going to try cleaning ejector. Only thing I don’t like about the action. Running same ammo as you.
Think I found issue, was running an US scope before and changed to Razor Genii and had to move front scope ring 2 or 3 spots forward to mount new scope. Zero to today and three brass consistently to same spot, could even eject loaded rounds fine. Thanks for the suggestions and help, works great now. When I tried it the other day I had left rings where the were for US, and with no scope it was still not working well. Once I mounded new scope, and cycled live rounds seemed to eject fine, played out the same while zeroing today.
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