Ive been looking for a night vision scope to that I can use on a .338 Lapua that will let me be able to see steel targets out to 600 yards. Looking at the D760 6X and the Raptor 6X with gen 3 tubes. The D-760 says it has a human detection range of 475 meters while the Raptor has a detection range of 2425 meters. Is the Raptor really THAT much better? The raptor is a little over 2 grand more but if those specs are correct then it would be worth the extra money. Thanks
Night Vision D760 6x vs. Raptor 6x
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Re: D760 6x vs. Raptor 6x
You want to choose between a D-760 Raptor & other 'similar' D-760 body styles in gen-3 . I am no expert but I can give you my Sunday night opinion, as I get to look through a Raptor once in a while.
The huge discrepancy on the distance of viewing/recognition with your 2 choices given ? With the D-760 6x body style & all things being equal with all being gen-3 tube quality, & circuitry. I don't think would be that big a difference .
For 600 yrd. like you are asking . I think Any 760 gen-3 body style is going to GTG for you .
As far as someone having 2 units @ the same time to make a comparison in all the same conditions ? (Victor tnvc) on this website might have looked @ both in a sideXside viewing with his own eyes . Or some other dealer ?
The loose term ( human detection range ) very random, general & not very precise for measurement ? .& what was , Quoted ...." Human detection range of 2425 meters ".
was that With or Without IR supplement ? & with how much Stellar ambient ? what Terrain ?
Is it possible see a ( erect human shape) with moment. When looking across a perfect flat/smooth terrain . in clear air (no dust-no fog) & in Full Moon-lite ambient with a Raptor-6 , with No IR supplement used ? , ( Yes ) it's possible .
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Like you say, the Raptor build is More-$$$ . Your paying the Gov. purchase NSN# price . Raptor-6 is going to be the 'Heavy' mil.spec. body build, But with heaviest weight . Good Circuitry . Best overall in water resistant & full water submersion .
You are 'planning' to use big Recoil Cal. on mounting on a .338lm . & Raptor states that it is GTG on a .50 bmg recoil . Raptor is built like a tank but that still does not guarantee you wont have any problems with the Raptor .
So Whatever you chose to buy. You Need to take service/repair into consideration with your purchase choice also .
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You want to choose between a D-760 Raptor & other 'similar' D-760 body styles in gen-3 . I am no expert but I can give you my Sunday night opinion, as I get to look through a Raptor once in a while.
The huge discrepancy on the distance of viewing/recognition with your 2 choices given ? With the D-760 6x body style & all things being equal with all being gen-3 tube quality, & circuitry. I don't think would be that big a difference .
For 600 yrd. like you are asking . I think Any 760 gen-3 body style is going to GTG for you .
As far as someone having 2 units @ the same time to make a comparison in all the same conditions ? (Victor tnvc) on this website might have looked @ both in a sideXside viewing with his own eyes . Or some other dealer ?
The loose term ( human detection range ) very random, general & not very precise for measurement ? .& what was , Quoted ...." Human detection range of 2425 meters ".
was that With or Without IR supplement ? & with how much Stellar ambient ? what Terrain ?
Is it possible see a ( erect human shape) with moment. When looking across a perfect flat/smooth terrain . in clear air (no dust-no fog) & in Full Moon-lite ambient with a Raptor-6 , with No IR supplement used ? , ( Yes ) it's possible .
.
Like you say, the Raptor build is More-$$$ . Your paying the Gov. purchase NSN# price . Raptor-6 is going to be the 'Heavy' mil.spec. body build, But with heaviest weight . Good Circuitry . Best overall in water resistant & full water submersion .
You are 'planning' to use big Recoil Cal. on mounting on a .338lm . & Raptor states that it is GTG on a .50 bmg recoil . Raptor is built like a tank but that still does not guarantee you wont have any problems with the Raptor .
So Whatever you chose to buy. You Need to take service/repair into consideration with your purchase choice also .
.
Re: D760 6x vs. Raptor 6x
I agree with the fine points from Softcock and fx1.
I did a review awhile back describing these two VERY good NV Scopes side by side that is still valid today. . http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=18&t=194640
I agree with the fine points from Softcock and fx1.
I did a review awhile back describing these two VERY good NV Scopes side by side that is still valid today. . http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=18&t=194640
Re: D760 6x vs. Raptor 6x
Excellent advice guys, it sounds like the 760 is all I need. Thanks for the link to that review Victor. That was very helpful.
Excellent advice guys, it sounds like the 760 is all I need. Thanks for the link to that review Victor. That was very helpful.
Re: D760 6x vs. Raptor 6x
I would recommend getting the torch that Victor sells.
http://tnvc.com/items/illumination_tools/elr_torch.html
If you get a 760 it should have the mount on the side to attach the torch. It makes the 760 much more usable.
I would recommend getting the torch that Victor sells.
http://tnvc.com/items/illumination_tools/elr_torch.html
If you get a 760 it should have the mount on the side to attach the torch. It makes the 760 much more usable.
Re: D760 6x vs. Raptor 6x
I am looking at the pictures and im not sure that I see anywhere where the torch can be mounted. Are you saying directly to the scope? I was planning on getting the torch as well and have been debating how to mount it.
I am looking at the pictures and im not sure that I see anywhere where the torch can be mounted. Are you saying directly to the scope? I was planning on getting the torch as well and have been debating how to mount it.
Re: D760 6x vs. Raptor 6x
Check out this pic:
http://ee.ar15.com/uploadImages/20090915/63391/Uploaded_633886095137931250_File.jpg
The mount is just in front of the battery compartment. The torch threads into it.
Check out this pic:
http://ee.ar15.com/uploadImages/20090915/63391/Uploaded_633886095137931250_File.jpg
The mount is just in front of the battery compartment. The torch threads into it.
Re: D760 6x vs. Raptor 6x
Very cool, thanks for that pic.
Very cool, thanks for that pic.
Re: D760 6x vs. Raptor 6x
Here are some pictures of my 760 with torch attached.
Sorry the pictures aren't the greatest but I hope you can get the idea of what it looks like.
ETA I've also added the R&D Precision/Larue mount. I would highly recommend getting this.
http://tnvc.com/items/weapon_moounts_rings/rad_nv2_mount.html
Here are some pictures of my 760 with torch attached.
Sorry the pictures aren't the greatest but I hope you can get the idea of what it looks like.
ETA I've also added the R&D Precision/Larue mount. I would highly recommend getting this.
http://tnvc.com/items/weapon_moounts_rings/rad_nv2_mount.html
Re: D760 6x vs. Raptor 6x
its a pitty you guys cant get a laser for the D760, i use a N1000 which is pretty cheap at £140 and the beam will illuminate about 600-700 yards with ease on a pretty big spot which is variable.
Personally i dont rate LED IR.
I like the look of your flip cover for the eye piece though, was it easy to get the rubber one off since it looks attached to the diopter on my scope
its a pitty you guys cant get a laser for the D760, i use a N1000 which is pretty cheap at £140 and the beam will illuminate about 600-700 yards with ease on a pretty big spot which is variable.
Personally i dont rate LED IR.
I like the look of your flip cover for the eye piece though, was it easy to get the rubber one off since it looks attached to the diopter on my scope
Re: D760 6x vs. Raptor 6x
HS338 is that some sort of additional mount that you have to get it on there? Also, are you able to adjust the direction of the beam on the mount or does it just point in one place and is non-adjustable? Thanks for the pics by the way.
HS338 is that some sort of additional mount that you have to get it on there? Also, are you able to adjust the direction of the beam on the mount or does it just point in one place and is non-adjustable? Thanks for the pics by the way.
Re: D760 6x vs. Raptor 6x
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Disasterpath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">HS338 is that some sort of additional mount that you have to get it on there? Also, are you able to adjust the direction of the beam on the mount or does it just point in one place and is non-adjustable? Thanks for the pics by the way. </div></div>
I bought my 760 from a friend who needed money, so I don't actually know if he bought this mount or if it came with it.
Here is a link to the mount.
http://morovision.com/mvnv_accessories/ir_markers/mounting_bracket_IR_illuminators.html
When the torch is attached it will move vertically. It is in line with the 760 though. I've had the torch attached and targeted out to 400 yards and had no problems with alignment.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Disasterpath</div><div class="ubbcode-body">HS338 is that some sort of additional mount that you have to get it on there? Also, are you able to adjust the direction of the beam on the mount or does it just point in one place and is non-adjustable? Thanks for the pics by the way. </div></div>
I bought my 760 from a friend who needed money, so I don't actually know if he bought this mount or if it came with it.
Here is a link to the mount.
http://morovision.com/mvnv_accessories/ir_markers/mounting_bracket_IR_illuminators.html
When the torch is attached it will move vertically. It is in line with the 760 though. I've had the torch attached and targeted out to 400 yards and had no problems with alignment.
