Does anyone know of any way to purchase any of the before mentioned scopes that may be damaged cosmetically, but not mechanically? Any thoughts, suggestions, ideas? TIA
Rifle Scopes Damaged USO, S&B, or NF scopes.......
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Re: Damaged USO, S&B, or NF scopes.......
Check out the Hide's for sale section I've seen display models and such for sale before.
::::::::You don't want to get banned do you Nate?:::::::::
Check out the Hide's for sale section I've seen display models and such for sale before.
::::::::You don't want to get banned do you Nate?:::::::::
Re: Damaged USO, S&B, or NF scopes.......
Thanks for the responses, guys. However, I guess I should've been a little more clear. I was meaning to ask if anyone knew of a way to purchase damaged scopes from the manufacturer's themselves. Companies make mistakes from time to time in their manufacturing process, no matter how good they are. Where companies get their reputations for great quality products is from within their Quality Control departments catching the flawed products and not allowing those products out the door. Although some companies may have their assembly process refined to a point where they incur minimal errors in assembly, they still make a mistake (no matter how small) from time to time. I was just curious to know if anyone knew of any way to acquire those products not normally for sale due to cosmetic flaws. I realize that I am just a single civilian and would be making a purchase for my own personal use, but I just figured that I would never know unless I asked. But thanks again for your response. I will definitely keep an eye out in the "Optics for Sale" section.
War Eagle!
PS, I know this to be true in most cases because I worked for an aerospace manufacturer who specializes in composites and produces nearly all the composite parts involved on the assembly of the UH-60 for Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation. At this particular company, we had a 3% scrap report, which is incredible when taking into consideration the sheer volume of parts that were layed up, assembled and shipped on a daily basis. The section that I worked in (1 of no less than 30 sections spread across no less than 10 different departments) did $22 million per year in products out the door to Sikorsky. I was an assistant supervisor there for 6 years and was instrumental in taking this section from a mere $800k per year to the $22mil mark. Of the product that never made it to Sikorsky to be assembled on the aircraft, they would often buy the "scrapped" parts to use for their own Quality Control purposes. They would test these parts to determine whether or not the flaws were in fact hazardous to the aircraft and/or its crew. When Sikorsky wouldn't by the flawed pieces, other companies in the composite industry would buy the parts from us (but only in a further altered state as Sikorsky actually owned the design, and ultimately the part in it's natural state due to contractual/copyright/trademark/patent issues) and do their own testing for their own purposes.
Thanks for the responses, guys. However, I guess I should've been a little more clear. I was meaning to ask if anyone knew of a way to purchase damaged scopes from the manufacturer's themselves. Companies make mistakes from time to time in their manufacturing process, no matter how good they are. Where companies get their reputations for great quality products is from within their Quality Control departments catching the flawed products and not allowing those products out the door. Although some companies may have their assembly process refined to a point where they incur minimal errors in assembly, they still make a mistake (no matter how small) from time to time. I was just curious to know if anyone knew of any way to acquire those products not normally for sale due to cosmetic flaws. I realize that I am just a single civilian and would be making a purchase for my own personal use, but I just figured that I would never know unless I asked. But thanks again for your response. I will definitely keep an eye out in the "Optics for Sale" section.
War Eagle!
PS, I know this to be true in most cases because I worked for an aerospace manufacturer who specializes in composites and produces nearly all the composite parts involved on the assembly of the UH-60 for Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation. At this particular company, we had a 3% scrap report, which is incredible when taking into consideration the sheer volume of parts that were layed up, assembled and shipped on a daily basis. The section that I worked in (1 of no less than 30 sections spread across no less than 10 different departments) did $22 million per year in products out the door to Sikorsky. I was an assistant supervisor there for 6 years and was instrumental in taking this section from a mere $800k per year to the $22mil mark. Of the product that never made it to Sikorsky to be assembled on the aircraft, they would often buy the "scrapped" parts to use for their own Quality Control purposes. They would test these parts to determine whether or not the flaws were in fact hazardous to the aircraft and/or its crew. When Sikorsky wouldn't by the flawed pieces, other companies in the composite industry would buy the parts from us (but only in a further altered state as Sikorsky actually owned the design, and ultimately the part in it's natural state due to contractual/copyright/trademark/patent issues) and do their own testing for their own purposes.
Re: Damaged USO, S&B, or NF scopes.......
It seems to me that the very small amount of potential profit that could be made by a company doing this would be out-weighed by having a substandard product in circulation.
Just my .02, worth what you paid.
It seems to me that the very small amount of potential profit that could be made by a company doing this would be out-weighed by having a substandard product in circulation.
Just my .02, worth what you paid.
Re: Damaged USO, S&B, or NF scopes.......
I highly doubt you will have any luck with this. The optics in discussion have reputations built on quality. Letting a product go out their door that does not meet their standards would go against what they earned their reputation on. It is one thing if you are contractor manufacturing product for a client that owns the intellectual property and they want the substandard parts back for destructive testing. It is a completely different situation to knownly let a substandard product out every door to the final end user.
I highly doubt you will have any luck with this. The optics in discussion have reputations built on quality. Letting a product go out their door that does not meet their standards would go against what they earned their reputation on. It is one thing if you are contractor manufacturing product for a client that owns the intellectual property and they want the substandard parts back for destructive testing. It is a completely different situation to knownly let a substandard product out every door to the final end user.
Re: Damaged USO, S&B, or NF scopes.......
Sometimes we have demo returns that we will sell that have blemishes, but there is no real knowing on when they will come in.
I will get with you AUB in a PM.
John III
Sometimes we have demo returns that we will sell that have blemishes, but there is no real knowing on when they will come in.
I will get with you AUB in a PM.
John III
Re: Damaged USO, S&B, or NF scopes.......
I've never heard of "seconds" being for sale, and I doubt they exist.
All it would take is one jackass buying it cheap and turning it around for a profit saying its a good to go or new optic. Which in turn screws both the manfu and guy who bought it.
I've never heard of "seconds" being for sale, and I doubt they exist.
All it would take is one jackass buying it cheap and turning it around for a profit saying its a good to go or new optic. Which in turn screws both the manfu and guy who bought it.
Re: Damaged USO, S&B, or NF scopes.......
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nate3006</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check out the Hide's for sale section I've seen display models and such for sale before. </div></div>
That's a damn good way of earning yourself a ban from the forums. You don't have the required number of posts and in this topic you're soliciting a sale.
It would do you well to go back and read the rules that you agreed to when creating an account back in 2008 because apparently, you skipped over that part or have forgotten about it entirely.
We've seen it all before, the many different ways in which someone tries to get around the 100 post requirement, and it can't be done.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nate3006</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check out the Hide's for sale section I've seen display models and such for sale before. </div></div>
That's a damn good way of earning yourself a ban from the forums. You don't have the required number of posts and in this topic you're soliciting a sale.
It would do you well to go back and read the rules that you agreed to when creating an account back in 2008 because apparently, you skipped over that part or have forgotten about it entirely.
We've seen it all before, the many different ways in which someone tries to get around the 100 post requirement, and it can't be done.
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