Damn women drivers

[Snuby642]

So the redheads are psycho, the blondes in na-na land and brunettes are just mean.

That being said, I don't give one shit what you think about thier driving, or lack of it.

Lets talk about women in the shooting sports.
I jumped a new hide member for my precived slight he gave woman shooters.
Maybe a mistake but can't leave that to chance.

Without women in the shooting sports there will not be any for long.
We need thier support and participation to continue to exsit.!

Slapping some pink camouflage on stuff is condescending to some that are serious about the sports.
Not nearly enough effort.

Figure it like this, half the paychecks and votes are women, get me?

If you are not helping to promote women's shooting sports,

You sir are a puss.
And not helping haul the load!

These days it's a hell of a load every damn day.

 

[Maser]

I think we need more women shooters, but I can do without seeing pink guns.

 

[Snuby642]

My wife won't buy a pink gun, but likes to customize guns in other ways to take pride in them.
Her and her womans shooting leagues shoot a lot, and buy a lot.
She went to the gun show twice this weekend, spent ? 300$ +

I bought some sausages 20$

Any vender not taking that seriously is stupid.

 

[XLR308]

I totally agree with you from the financial to the in the public's eye stand points of your OP.

Not to mention who wants to be only surrounded by a bunch of hair legs when out enjoying the shooting sports.

Cleavage and guns go together likes peas and carrots ?

 

[sandwarrior]

Pink guns are fine...as long as the intent is to get them out and get them shooting.

I don't know how many of us here belong to a range, but when I lived in Minnesota, I belonged to the Dakota County Gun club. Once, sometimes twice a year we had "Ladies Night" (day actually, but it's catchier). The range was shut down for all members except instructors. We asked for donations, but provided our own ammo. This is when it started. At the end, we had a sponsor and they donated ALL the ammo. And targets. One year, a woman of some means came out and enjoyed the shoot so much she bought all the ammo for every station.

Anyhow, it was open to women of all walks who had either handled a lot of guns or never handled guns. We had shotgun, pistol, rifle, blackpowder, archery, and cowboy action blackpowder stations.

We encouraged instructors to: A. not bring magnums, and B. don't push heavy guns on the girls unless they wanted to try them. There were a couple instructors who were talked to about not bringing the, "If they can't shoot a 30-06, they don't need to shoot a gun," attitude. One was asked to leave.

There were also no boyfriends or husbands allowed during the first years. Later, they came along and it was a problem. One too many of them were all up on the firing line, "coaching" (read yelling or talking down to) their woman. Later, members got to co-use the range. that was also a problem as it always seemed "Mr. Impatient" was out there that day. We also had issues with some of the "old guard" at the club not wanting women to even shoot.

But, all in all it was an overwhelmingly positive experience. We had several hundred women come out and shoot. Many who had never shot before. And, kept in the context of the range, they liked it. Some were looking forward to getting to hunt with their husbands. And, while the afternoon was volunteer, I talked to a lot of women who wanted more instruction and would pay me for it.

So, FWIW, if you get a chance at your local club see if you can help with one of these events, or help get one going. Another good resource is B.O.W. or Becoming an Outdoor Woman. It's a national association that's barely got enough steam, but it's kept going. Because of knowing that, I contacted one of the BOW leaders in N. Idaho and helped put on a long range shoot for them. Funny, girls LOVE ringin' steel as much as the boys do.

 

[missed]

I can care less what there gear looks like. As long as there having fun and supporting the industry and matches. My daughter's MK4 holster is purple. The local 3 gun and steel matches probably have 1/3 lady shooters. Not to mention the ladies, but getting your kids involved also.

 

[supercorndogs]

There , their, they're.

 

[hlee]

My wife is not a girly girl, but she likes a bit of pink trim on her hunting clothing- just a bit. Her bow is black with pink elk skulls. I don’t think she would go with hot pink-over blaze orange- for a hunting vest, and she would NEVER buy or shoot a pink gun. But, she’s still a woman and likes what she likes.

Women are inherently better students than men. And, I will go as far to say that properly motivated, women can achieve a higher level of proficiency in a male dominated task faster, merely because they do not fight the “I’m a guy, I got this” syndrome the rest of us tend to be afflicted with. I’ve never seen a woman at a range that was not having a good time.

When I was in college I had a buddy that was a nationally ranked competitive skeet shooter, and a semi competitive womanizer. He had a new girl every few weeks, sometimes 2. We hit the skeet range every other weekend and he would bring his squeeze of the week along. Girly-girl-socialite-sorority girls that had obviously never shot a gun before. This is how you hold it, this is how you point it, this is what makes it fire. Ready? Pull! After a few stages they are breaking clays, high-fiving and beaming ear to ear. He must have let half of Sorority row fire his gun. He let them shoot his shotgun too...

Take a woman shooting and she will almost surely enjoy it. Take her often enough and she will beat you, consistently. Women in the sport are half of the equation of kids in the sport. If momma bear doesn’t want baby bear shooting a gun, baby bear isn’t going to shoot a gun...

 

[Snuby642]

Similar to Sandwarrior's situation.
To many guys can't stand back and let them have fun.

Have the women check out Diva WOW.

They solved the problems of interference, "mostly well intended" but not always wanted.
It's woman ran they run thier own program, they take over the range and put on thier own events.
About once a year they let the guys hang out.

Reminds me, I have to make her snacks for thier league party tonight.

Makes it way easier to explain why you need top shelf gear to poke holes in things.

 

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Slapping some pink camouflage on stuff is condescending to some that are serious about the sports.
Not nearly enough effort.

i think its condecending to those who arent even that serious about shooting.....

i took my mother out to buy her a gun for her birthday.....shes not a big shooter buy is interested in having some fun at the range....i jokingly pointed to a pink charter arms revolver...her response was...and i quote, "i dont want that faggoty pink gun, i want a real gun!"


even my fiance told me....."if you ever buy me a pink gun, imma fucking shoot you with it".....shes a keeper.

 

[DOA]

I think we need more women shooters, but I can do without seeing pink guns.

I disagree. Any woman, regardless of what color their choice of gun is, should be welcomed into the sport. Doesn’t matter if they are serious shooters or weekend plinkers.

 

[Redmanss]

It's definitely a mistake patronizing women who want to try out the sport with a pink gun and gear, but an equally egregious mistake is scoffing at them for having it. Some want that, it's why they exist in the first place, but the first question should always be "What do you want?" and go from there. I was building a his/hers pair of rifles for me and my lady out of a set of Seekins receivers, mine I built into a 3-gun setup and I asked her what she wanted it to be like. Her reply was "I want it to look mean". A 16" braked barrel fully covered with a slim partially railed forearm, collapsable stock, slim grip for her small hands and Aimpoint Micro it was.

One of the best ways to get women into shooting is via rimfire and/or suppressed shooting, and always be nice and honest to them on the firing line but don't try to do anything for them or impress them with jargon they don't understand, just respectfully teach them in simple terms first and advance from there. I've taught women how to shoot for years, including hundreds upon hundreds of young women during my two years working the ranges at Parris Island. If you talk down to a woman on the line, they shut down listening to you, guaranteed every time. Teach like a professional and you will get professional results.

 

[Snuby642]

Exactly what redmanss professes will work every time.
This is how they should be treated.

If they want a pink ar, get them one.

Downrange don't care, in target sports anyway.

A bad day is when you go to the range and see people hollering at kids or spouses because they don't understand!
Man up and learn how to train, or get someone else to do it for you.

 

[sandwarrior]

I agree with Redmanss in that teaching professionally, not condescension, or showing off is going to keep them interested. Absolutely, leave the patronizing out. Which is why I don't care what color or badassery they put on their gun. If it shoots, I hope to help them become their own badass as they see what's needed.

My thing in hooking them is showing how well they did, at least once, against some truly great shooters. Mind you, this is one time against great shooters many. And, whom they don' usually beat. Which in many cases is under time or duress. But, it makes new shooters feel good when they see results like those posted up against well known shooters.