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Daughter has a climate change project

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    Of course the source material for her project is fat bloated AL Gore's inconvenient truth.

    She has been given all sorts of materials from the pro side and only illusory remarks that there is possibly another side.

    Her searches for information come up with only the standard stupid Google vetted and censored sources.

    Anyone got some good quick reference to show ice fields getting bigger, polar bears living longer, the sun doing what the sun does, British researches faking data, NASA faking data etc?
     
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    It’s a tough go trying to get our kids to see the truth, be honest, and not get overwhelmed by reality they can’t handle yet. I don’t tell them to lie, but I do explain how the system works and cover results vs rebuffs. Is it bad parenting to try and raise you kids to be secret squirrel influencers?
     
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    Lookup the original Climate Change / Global Warming report from Oxford University. I believe it was highly discredited.
     
    Have her include scientific findings on the Ice age, (not the Disney movie) and Pangea. Perhaps provide some insight into how the Earths climate and shape should be measured in millions of years rather than the current myopic view of climate change being taught.
     
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    The Weather Rock




    weatherrock.GIF





    This rock is the perfect weather indicator, it
    never fails. It is more accurate than your local
    weather person. This rock is the living word and
    is 100% correct. This is how it works:
    a dry rock means fair weather.
    a wet rock means it's raining.
    a dusty rock means a dust storm.
    a swaying rock means it's windy.
    a shadow under the rock means it's sunny.
    a white rock means it's snowing.
    if the rock is jumping up and down, an
    earthquake is upon us.
    if the bottom of the rock is under water it's a
    flood.
    most beautiful of all, though the rock is not
    attached to its' existence, it doesn't mind which
    of the above is happening.
     
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    Ric O'shay said:
    Have her include scientific findings on the Ice age, (not the Disney movie) and Pangea. Perhaps provide some insight into how the Earths climate and shape should be measured in millions of years rather than the current myopic view of climate change being taught.
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    Thorny said:
    The Weather Rock




    weatherrock.GIF





    This rock is the perfect weather indicator, it
    never fails. It is more accurate than your local
    weather person. This rock is the living word and
    is 100% correct. This is how it works:
    a dry rock means fair weather.
    a wet rock means it's raining.
    a dusty rock means a dust storm.
    a swaying rock means it's windy.
    a shadow under the rock means it's sunny.
    a white rock means it's snowing.
    if the rock is jumping up and down, an
    earthquake is upon us.
    if the bottom of the rock is under water it's a
    flood.
    most beautiful of all, though the rock is not
    attached to its' existence, it doesn't mind which
    of the above is happening.
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    Last one that was left off for my area is "if rock is gone, its a tornado."

    My suggestion for the report is to try and find recent news articles that demonstrate the opposite of the "warming" issue. That's why their PR people had to change "global warming" to "climate change"
     
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    Look up information from Joe Bastardi also. When she closes her project she needs to ask one simple question since climate change is supposed to make the oceans rise. That one question is - Why are all the elites like Obama, Zuck, etc. buying ocean front homes if the oceans are going to rise leaving those ocean front properties underwater? Now do you understand it's just a scheme to fleece fools from their money!
     
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    brt1963 said:
    wattsupwiththat.com

    Watts Up With That? • The world's most viewed site on global warming and climate change

    The world's most viewed site on global warming and climate change
    wattsupwiththat.com wattsupwiththat.com

    CO2 Science

    A weekly review and repository of scientific research findings pertaining to carbon dioxide and global change.
    www.co2science.org www.co2science.org
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    Go to these sources, they are the motherload of data. I have studied this topic in-depth for about 18 years. You won't find a better source of info than what is in these links. Watts is the best you will find. There is a ton of great "caught red handed" examples of climate scammers not following the scientific process to attempt proving the climate models correct. Such as "adjusting" previous decades temps cooler in a desperate attempt to show the earth warming. Spolier alert - it's not warming so they adjust temps, move temp stations to warmer areas, etc all in a an attempt to achieve the sacred hockey stick graph of doom.

    You can also look up the East Anglia Climate gate e-mail scandals and look into Michael Mann getting caught violating the scientific process "lying". But yeah, go to those sources, read Watts! It has everything she needs.

    Another great one is rent Gore's first movie because literally everything in it is mockable and has not happened. Anyone that watches it now will put silly notions of AGW out of their head and be embarrased they ever bought into the scam. I highly recommend watching it and remember, it's the foundation for all the gov attempts to steal more of your money and destroy your lifestyle.

    Also, if she really wants to have fun with this. Look into the fact that all of the founders of AGW (the global warming theory from climate models that all this is based on) have come out and said they were wrong. I'm not exaggerating, literally every person that started this hypothesis has admitted they were wrong.

    Go read Watts!
     
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    Have her present the "hot core' hypothesis:

    theethicalskeptic.com

    Exothermic (Cyclic) Core Theory of Climate Change

    Recent climate change may originate from structural and exothermic phase changes in the nickel-iron core of the Earth, and not primarily from man's activity alone. Lattice structure (phase) changes in sloughed (shed) core material releases latent kinetic energy (heat) which flows to the...
    theethicalskeptic.com theethicalskeptic.com

    ... and challenge everyone to prove her wrong :ROFLMAO:
     
    Scientists tell us their were 1,000 ft tall glaciers as far south as Ohio, meaning global temps were much cooler and sea levels lower.
    Whale fossils litter the Sahara desert, meaning global temps and sea levels were much higher.
    These happened long before the industrial revolution, SUVs, and, in all likelihood, predate bovine flatulence.
     
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    The Canadian Shield, the Great Lakes, and many of the known landmarks of the North American continent (especially the center of the continent) are/were made by the moving glaciers and whatnot. But they melted away a LONG time before the idea of caveman/fire were thought up. Let alone cars/trucks/planes/rockets/air-conditioners..... I'm just saying.
     
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    Two good book reads to put her in the mood.

    1. State of Fear by Michael Crichton. It's an amazing condemnation of the 'eco-socialism' movement.

    2. Rainbow 6 by Tom Clancy. One of his last books. About environmental extremists.

    Both fiction. Not really citeable (Though Crichton's book is FULL of great references.)

    But they will show the total fallacy of the eco-Nazi's.

    Sirhr
     
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    The clock is ticking and the earth will be a little to warm for life one day so trying to save it is impossible. But it does make a nice fear tactic for liberals to say we only have 12 years left so stop using your gas leaf blowers. The sky is not falling , its going to be a red hot ball of gases.

    Since we have to paper straws again I say we should revert back to natural materials for condoms such as hemp to save the earth.......


    www.space.com

    Will our solar system survive the death of our sun?

    It's gonna get ugly.
    www.space.com www.space.com
     
    This has data back for over 150 years. Every ten years we gain 1 second of daylight on winter solstice and lose a second on the summer solstice. There is more data to be found here but this is very easy to find. This proves that the earth's angle to the sun ever so slightly is changing and if you do the math it proves where Scientists can come up with the figure that the earth will warm by 4/100ths of a degree over the next 50 years. This is a tangible provable fact! With the amount of particulate put into the atmosphere by volcanos every year besting all of the industrial revolution from start to today, it is just another assault on normal people by the elite. THe only man made item that will change the environmental atmosphere quickly is radar. Look at its use now being installed in cars. That microwave doesn't work on sunshine and rainbows.
    www.timeanddate.com

    Sunrise and sunset times in Barnstable, June 1900

    Calculations of sunrise and sunset in Barnstable – Massachusetts – USA for June 1900. Generic astronomy calculator to calculate times for sunrise, sunset, moonrise, moonset for many cities, with daylight saving time and time zones taken in account.
    www.timeanddate.com www.timeanddate.com
     
    Baron23 said:
    Can’t stand that little arrogant and self righteous idiot ( hadaother word in mind but I’m trying to uplift the level of decorum on the Hide :ROFLMAO:
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    Might as well try to hold back the tide.
     
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    Start with this graph. It shows temperature and CO2 back to 450k years before present. Human history is captured on the right side of the top of the right-most peak. This demonstrates that Earth average temperature is MUCH lower than present, temperatures have been greater in the past, CO2 levels are monotonically correlated with temperature (i.e., may be caused by tempurature increases).

    The peruse the above links. Medium is good. So is Dr. Spencer’s link.

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    www.snipershide.com

    Maggie’s - Climate change is real!

    We have had Ice Ages and melting periods since the planet formed.... Scaring us about it started in the 1930's.... newspapers in the story https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-09/armstrong-climate-change-has-been-routine-scare-tactic-1930s
    www.snipershide.com www.snipershide.com

    https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/grand-solar-minimum.7061818/

    Latest Global Temps - Roy Spencer, PhD.

    Latest Global Average Tropospheric Temperatures Since 1979, NOAA satellites have been carrying instruments which measure the natural microwave thermal emissions from oxygen in the atmosphere. The intensity of the signals these microwave radiometers measure at different microwave frequencies is...
    www.drroyspencer.com
     
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    Have your daughter search the following "Glacier Episodes covering North America", She will see that glaciers have come and gone across North America, and for that matter across the world for millions of years. And, it will continue for millions of years. It is a natural process. The discussion is: Does human activity affect the timeline (accelerate the process). And the answer is, probably. For that matter natural activity, i.e. volcanic eruptions will also affect the climate. Major volcanic eruptions in the 1700's caused the little ice age in Europe. Geomorphology was one of my favorite subjects a 100 years ago.

    Major known ice ages shown in blue.

    Name of ice ageYears BP (Ma)Geological periodEra
    Pongola2900–2780[2]Mesoarchean
    Huron2400–2100Siderian
    Rhyacian    		Paleoproterozoic
    Sturt
    Marino
    Gaskiers
    Baykonur    		715–680
    650–635
    580
    547    		Cryogenian

    Ediacaran    		Neoproterozoic
    Andean-Saharan
    (incl. Hirnantian and
    Late Ordovician glaciation)    		450–420Late Ordovician
    Silurian    		Paleozoic
    Karoo360–289Carboniferous
    Permian    		Paleozoic
    Late Cenozoic Ice Age
    (incl. Quaternary glaciation)    		34–presentLate Paleogene
    Neogene
    Quaternary    		Cenozoic
     
    pmclaine said:
    Of course the source material for her project is fat bloated AL Gore's inconvenient truth.

    She has been given all sorts of materials from the pro side and only illusory remarks that there is possibly another side.

    Her searches for information come up with only the standard stupid Google vetted and censored sources.

    Anyone got some good quick reference to show ice fields getting bigger, polar bears living longer, the sun doing what the sun does, British researches faking data, NASA faking data etc?
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    Buy Glenn Beck's An Inconvenient Book
     
    She might throw in an aside about all the past, failed, doom and gloom predictions.
    This site lists 50+ years worth, with links and/or pics of contemporary news articles.


    cei.org

    Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions - Competitive Enterprise Institute

    Modern doomsayers have been predicting climate and environmental disaster since the 1960s. They continue to do so today. None of the apocalyptic predictions with due dates as of today have come true. What follows is a collection of notably wild predictions from notable people in government and...
    cei.org cei.org

    Moral of the story:
    Frightened people are easily controlled.
     
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    Check friends of coal west, lignite energy council. Lignite has some good posts that could possibly shine some light on the subject.
     
    Probably not much help but these virtue signaling clowns are so arrogant that they chose to ignore all evidence in order to further their agenda or line their pockets.
    The term useful idiots is good for explaining a lot of what's going on right now.

    Good luck with it
     
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    pmclaine said:
    Of course the source material for her project is fat bloated AL Gore's inconvenient truth.

    She has been given all sorts of materials from the pro side and only illusory remarks that there is possibly another side.

    Her searches for information come up with only the standard stupid Google vetted and censored sources.

    Anyone got some good quick reference to show ice fields getting bigger, polar bears living longer, the sun doing what the sun does, British researches faking data, NASA faking data etc?
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    tell her to research the norse farms in greenland around 950 AD and the vineyards in britain during the roman rule; both make it obvious that the planet was a lot warmer than it is now
     
    climate.nasa.gov

    Milankovitch (Orbital) Cycles and Their Role in Earth's Climate – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

    Small cyclical variations in the shape of Earth's orbit, its wobble and the angle its axis is tilted play key roles in influencing Earth's climate over timespans of tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands of years.
    climate.nasa.gov climate.nasa.gov

    The milankovitch cycle explains the long-term temperature shifts of the earth and some of the orbital effects that cause it.
    The sea levels have been rising, my father did exploration as a geophysicist in the Gulf of Mexico and before they can issue drilling permits in shallow water sites they had to be sure that they weren’t disturbing old Indian civilizations.

    You could get into discussing all the ancient sites that are buried under the oceans from thousands of years ago.

    You could get into the core samples drilled off the Atlantic coast of Africa that proves that 6000 years ago the Sahara desert was a not a desert.

    www.google.com

    6,000 years ago, the Sahara desert was tropical—what happened?

    As little as 6,000 years ago, the vast Sahara Desert was covered in grassland that received plenty of rainfall, but shifts in the world's weather patterns abruptly transformed the vegetated region into some of the driest land on Earth. A Texas A&M university researcher is trying to uncover the...
    www.google.com www.google.com

    The climate is changing it always has and it will continue to. Just don’t let the Libtard’s brain wash her into their ignorant understanding of the why
     
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    pmclaine said:
    Of course the source material for her project is fat bloated AL Gore's inconvenient truth.

    She has been given all sorts of materials from the pro side and only illusory remarks that there is possibly another side.

    Her searches for information come up with only the standard stupid Google vetted and censored sources.

    Anyone got some good quick reference to show ice fields getting bigger, polar bears living longer, the sun doing what the sun does, British researches faking data, NASA faking data etc?
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    I have a pic of al gore with an icecicle sticking in his ass!
     
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