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An action as light as a titanium that isn’t titanium?
Ok, please do tell then!!
Titanium defiance action sounds cool for a sheep rifle. How does titanium behave in cold weather, like -40F?
Gunna need you to substantiate that claim, chief.
Defiance said it wasn't titanium. 416, which is part of the serial number on Facebook
They keep saying its a stainless thats lighter than Ti.... not sure how thats possible, but definitely curious.
Bummer, maaan
Not sure what to think about this. If you take two actions machined exactly the same, but one 416SS and the other Titanium, the Titanium will be lighter unless there's some wizardry going on here
I know Defiance does not like titanium and does not want to make an action with titanium, so this is the compromise I suppose.
Curious to hear more about this action.
Lots of good reasons for not wanting to make an action out of Ti. Yes, it's lightweight, but lots of compromises come with making an action out of Ti. I personally don't think I would ever get an action made out of Ti.
Perhaps this Defiance action will be a good alternative.
Maybe they’re being clever with the answers. May be some sort of hybrid design. Metal inserts, an internal sleeve, etc. Interesting either way.
Edit: that bolt has some ridiculously deep flutes.
Edit: that bolt has some ridiculously deep flutes.
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The anTI is 416R pre-hardened stainless. It has been engineered to remove all the weight possible while still ensuring reliability. For folks that want that ultralight sheep Gun this will be a great alternative to Titanium
it's not as light as Ti, but within an ounce. full details and images will be interesting
Some Hawkins one piece hybrid rings would be really nice!
I was thinking the same thing.
What about coating options ? Are they going to offer black nitride ?
This looks to be an excellent option for those looking to make a lightweight hunting gun.
I would take this over a Ti action any day.
I would take this over a Ti action any day.
I want to build a 22 CM deer gun with one
I’ll bet it matches the pattern of the tenacity. If that’s the case you should be able to order the pinned talley’s direct from defiance.
Here’s a Ti Lone Peak Razor short and a short Remington with a modded bolt knob for comparison. Note the Lone peak has an integral lug like the anTi, and the Remington has no lug in this pic, so it’s a little heavier than shown.
Yes, nitriding is available.
Yup. Also, checkout the rings from Hawkins Precision.
Not sure what to think about this. If you take two actions machined exactly the same, but one 416SS and the other Titanium, the Titanium will be lighter unless there's some wizardry going on here
We never said anything about being machined exactly the same. Yes, our's is machined differently, and it's designed for the hunter looking to shed as much weight as possible and other benefits they would normally elect for in that style rig.
Sorry everybody, I fell a little behind getting over here and responding during SHOT Show and with traveling. The new Defiance Machine anTi actions you saw at SHOT are our prototypes. With that in mind, we announced it the second we had them in our hands, in order to get as much feedback as possible from dealers and gunsmiths during SHOT that we could, and very few people new about it. We are taking orders starting Monday for an early July delivery, in order to ensure we meet current order projected deadlines in the same short order we're operating at currently.
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Will the nitrided actions be available for early July delivery?
With it being medium length, what options do you have for chassis/stock? I’m unfamiliar with medium length actions
If it is like their other actions, "medium length" means it is the same as a Remington Model 700 short action. A Defiance "short" action is the same length as a Remington Model Seven.
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Heavy fluting.
Hollowed our bolt knob.
Probably more magic inside.
I see a lot of metal gone.
looks like an excellent hunting option.
Heavy fluting.
Hollowed our bolt knob.
Probably more magic inside.
I see a lot of metal gone.
looks like an excellent hunting option.
I like it I will be ordering one, I have a buddy with titanium action and he hates it!
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They start at $995.
Probably not due to the extra lead time for nitriding services, however, the early July is our conservative ETA to ensure current production times stay where they're at for our other orders.
That is correct. On a separate note, we were discussing the anTi in a Model Seven length that will be available, and how that will be even lighter and pretty awesome in possibly a WSSM.
I don't want a WSSM but I would buy a Model Seven length anTI. I also wish you guys would get Sunny Hill to build some Model Seven length and XM length BDL trigger guards patterned after their premium version.
First post here. I've been planning a build for a weight conscious hunting rig. I was set on the Bighorn TL3, but this new action has me curious. Defiance using Pre-hardened 416 stainless in the AnTi is the same material that Bighorn uses in the TL3, it looks like there is a 7 oz difference between the two (21oz AnTi vs 28 oz TL3). Are these actions fairly comparable? Any insight on one vs. the other from what is known so far?
I obviously don’t have the aNTi but I have a deviant ultralight and a tl3, both are amazing actions for a hunting rifle. Both very smooth and feed great no complaints from me on either. I think the anTi will be the start of a short, lw hunter in the near future for me. I don’t think you could go wrong with either but for the sake of keeping weight down the anTi has the edge
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I have a manners inlet for a deviant ultralight. Assuming the anti will drop right in?
I have a manners inlet for a deviant ultralight. Assuming the anti will drop right in?
Not at this time. You can, however, order a Ruckus GA Hunter with deep flutes and options such as a similar bolt handle.
It should have the same footprint.
@Defiance Machine sry one more question, not sure if asked, appologies if it was. Will it be available with CRF mod?? Looks perfect for an ultralight goat build on the island. Mahalo
Not at the moment.
