So tiktok morons have taken things too far and now one of them fafo
Ding,dong.....blam,blam
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We'll see what the prosecutor does. Not sure how hungry they are for convictions in that neck of the woods. Spotsylvania County, VA, just not sure.
As for the homeowner, a little prevention could have worked wonders... (i.e. Caneras, motion detecting devices that alert you before they get to the door, etc. or some of these lights that turn on with motion detectors). I understand he had a door bell camera but you might want some motion detecting cameras/devices about 15-20 ft. away from the doors. Doesn't help with night time roaming animals, I know, but...
As for the homeowner, a little prevention could have worked wonders... (i.e. Caneras, motion detecting devices that alert you before they get to the door, etc. or some of these lights that turn on with motion detectors). I understand he had a door bell camera but you might want some motion detecting cameras/devices about 15-20 ft. away from the doors. Doesn't help with night time roaming animals, I know, but...
Shot at 3am, but "hours before the senior prom"?
FAFO on this one. Kicking in a door at 3am is way different then ringing a doorbell
FAFO on this one. Kicking in a door at 3am is way different then ringing a doorbell
So typical to say the victims wrong, I am in my house, you come on may property AND kick in my door. Prepare to meet GOD.
Anyone else see the pattern in the pranksters, Amish ?
Ohio's Self-Defense Laws:
Ohio, like many other states, has a form of the castle doctrine, which means you have the right to defend yourself and your family from an intruder in your home or vehicle. To invoke the castle doctrine, you must have been in your home or vehicle when the intruder broke in and have a reasonable belief that you or your family was in immediate danger.
- No Duty to Retreat:
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Ohio's "stand your ground" law eliminates the duty to retreat if you're in a place where you have a legal right to be, such as your home or vehicle.
- Presumption of Self-Defense:
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If an intruder enters your residence or vehicle unlawfully, the court will presume you were acting in self-defense.
- Reasonable Belief of Imminent Danger:
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To use deadly force, you must have a reasonable belief that you or someone else is in imminent danger of death or serious physical harm.
- Burden of Proof Shifted:
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The new self-defense law in Ohio shifts the burden of proof to the prosecution to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you did not act in self-defense.
Ohio, like many other states, has a form of the castle doctrine, which means you have the right to defend yourself and your family from an intruder in your home or vehicle. To invoke the castle doctrine, you must have been in your home or vehicle when the intruder broke in and have a reasonable belief that you or your family was in immediate danger.
Play Stupid games, win stupid prizes
Wasn't too long ago in the South that if you were a black man and someone kicked your door in, it was the precursor to a lynching... So the poor guy was probably genuinely terrified! 3AM and your door getting kicked in??? What do they expect?
The homeowner should not be charged with anything.
The kids FAFO'd... doing something stupid to terrify a homeowner and damage property.
Fuck them.
Sirhr
The homeowner should not be charged with anything.
The kids FAFO'd... doing something stupid to terrify a homeowner and damage property.
Fuck them.
Sirhr
Nuts. Finally watched it. This is what happens when your “kids” don’t have to get up at 4:30am to feed and milk the cows. Sad, but the shooter needs a better lawyer; he shouldn’t be sitting in jail from what was reported. I suppose if he shot through the door, he might have some explaining to do, but we don’t know all the facts.
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It’s better to hold your fire until one of them actually enters.
150 years ago, this same result would have been expected by anyone. You kick in someone's door and you do meet God, shortly thereafter.
You gotta be a special kind of stupid to kick anyone's door in at 3am!! One less moron in the gene pool!!
Evil bastards arresting the homeowner.
These stupid idiot youth were going around acting like home invaders for stupid likes on the stupid interwebs.
Well you pretend to be home invaders you get treated like home invaders.
They got what they deserved for being stupid fools.
If their parents are upset, perhaps the homeowner should sue them for raising thug wannabes instead of decent folks.
These stupid idiot youth were going around acting like home invaders for stupid likes on the stupid interwebs.
Well you pretend to be home invaders you get treated like home invaders.
They got what they deserved for being stupid fools.
If their parents are upset, perhaps the homeowner should sue them for raising thug wannabes instead of decent folks.
And make sure the one who does enter is not just "on point" with others waiting for you outside.
Isn’t that the same as pointing a fake gun at a cop……oh wait.
They got what was coming on this one. Knocking on a door, or ringing a doorbell and burning off is a prank. Kicking in a door is breaking and entering. Destruction of property at the very the least.
We had a situation at my home in the wee hours of the morning a couple years ago. My wife woke me up saying she thought she had heard someone trying to get in the house through the front door. She had heard the door knob rattling a couple times. I sat in the living room with my 870 for a few minutes before moving outside to take a look around. If the front door had gotten kicked in I'd have dont the same thing.
Never did figure out what the cause of the noise at the front door was. Two big dogs live outside and they never made a peep.
We did find out the next day though, talking to a few neighbors that one of them had caught a guy parked in a jeep on their side of the neighborhood at 2am the same night we had our disturbance.
We had a situation at my home in the wee hours of the morning a couple years ago. My wife woke me up saying she thought she had heard someone trying to get in the house through the front door. She had heard the door knob rattling a couple times. I sat in the living room with my 870 for a few minutes before moving outside to take a look around. If the front door had gotten kicked in I'd have dont the same thing.
Never did figure out what the cause of the noise at the front door was. Two big dogs live outside and they never made a peep.
We did find out the next day though, talking to a few neighbors that one of them had caught a guy parked in a jeep on their side of the neighborhood at 2am the same night we had our disturbance.
It was 2 am and I was alone. I awoke to some strange noises. Out of bed with Glock in hand I headed downstairs. About half way down I realized someone was trying to bust my door in. Massive adrenaline dump and seconds of terror.
At that time, our otherwise quiet neighborhood had been invaded by a crew of meth heads, next door. I did not have a good relationship with them, to say the least.
We all joke about home invasions but the truth is when you’re alone, barely dressed at 2 AM and someone’s trying to bust your door down. It’s a terrifying experience. Anyone who knows anything about gunfights knows that the likelihood of being shot in a gunfight, win or lose, is pretty high. There are no guarantees.
The common advice is to head back to your bedroom and call the police. But this is a small cottage and the thought of letting potentially armed criminals into my home to take control of the downstairs was a no-go for me. So slowly, I pressed on towards the door to keep them from coming inside, no matter what.
Fortunately I have had training and a reasonable amount of stress inoculation. Though the adrenaline dump and sudden rush of fear had hit me like a ton of bricks, I was able to remain calm and clear headed. Within a few moments I was able to ascertain it was two drunk out of their mind colleges girls at the wrong address. Without opening the door, I tried to tell them to go away, but they persisted in trying to break the door open. I called 911….
When the cops finally made it, as they entered my yard, I thought OK it’s over and I opened the door to speak with them. At this point, one of the girls lunged inside, trying to push past me. I held her for a few seconds, then I thought to myself I have hands on a strange college girl. I probably shouldn’t. One of the cops came in and grabbed her threatening to taze her because she was noncompliant.
I never went back to bed that night. Aside from the adrenaline dump that was taking its time to wear off, I couldn’t get out of my mind that I had forgotten to lock that door within the past week or two. Had these girls made it inside, there in the darkness, ignoring commands, bulling through the house they most certainly would’ve been shot……
I now have long guns at the ready, cameras and motion sensors. Of course a new DEI female 20 something Wyoming Warden moved in next door and she gave me a hard time about my “spy” cameras. Seems miss pissy pants thought she would burst into flames if a camera incidentally caught her in the background walking to her vehicle. The cameras stayed.
At that time, our otherwise quiet neighborhood had been invaded by a crew of meth heads, next door. I did not have a good relationship with them, to say the least.
We all joke about home invasions but the truth is when you’re alone, barely dressed at 2 AM and someone’s trying to bust your door down. It’s a terrifying experience. Anyone who knows anything about gunfights knows that the likelihood of being shot in a gunfight, win or lose, is pretty high. There are no guarantees.
The common advice is to head back to your bedroom and call the police. But this is a small cottage and the thought of letting potentially armed criminals into my home to take control of the downstairs was a no-go for me. So slowly, I pressed on towards the door to keep them from coming inside, no matter what.
Fortunately I have had training and a reasonable amount of stress inoculation. Though the adrenaline dump and sudden rush of fear had hit me like a ton of bricks, I was able to remain calm and clear headed. Within a few moments I was able to ascertain it was two drunk out of their mind colleges girls at the wrong address. Without opening the door, I tried to tell them to go away, but they persisted in trying to break the door open. I called 911….
When the cops finally made it, as they entered my yard, I thought OK it’s over and I opened the door to speak with them. At this point, one of the girls lunged inside, trying to push past me. I held her for a few seconds, then I thought to myself I have hands on a strange college girl. I probably shouldn’t. One of the cops came in and grabbed her threatening to taze her because she was noncompliant.
I never went back to bed that night. Aside from the adrenaline dump that was taking its time to wear off, I couldn’t get out of my mind that I had forgotten to lock that door within the past week or two. Had these girls made it inside, there in the darkness, ignoring commands, bulling through the house they most certainly would’ve been shot……
I now have long guns at the ready, cameras and motion sensors. Of course a new DEI female 20 something Wyoming Warden moved in next door and she gave me a hard time about my “spy” cameras. Seems miss pissy pants thought she would burst into flames if a camera incidentally caught her in the background walking to her vehicle. The cameras stayed.
A few years ago three teenagers knocked on a locals door at 1am and said that their car had broken down and they needed to use a phone. The homeowner looked through a window and noticed one of them had an AR 15. He shot through the door and killed two of the teens. The third was hit but left the scene in the car. Several hours later he turned up at a hospital 60 miles away. Of course they called the police because of the gunshot injury and the police arrested him. He was charged with the deaths of the other two and no charges for the homeowner.
TN is a stand your ground and a castle doctrine state. Several years ago they extended the castle doctrine to your vehicle.
TN is a stand your ground and a castle doctrine state. Several years ago they extended the castle doctrine to your vehicle.
I'm sure they're quite adept at "making" a case when there isn't one. And, even if they can't, remember "the process is the punishment." If they can bleed the defendants dry, financially, over a case that will amount to nothing, they've achieved the mission. It will cause people to think twice before defending themselves.
Better watch your back, Shelby does not look amused.It’s 3 am this morning. I awake to someone trying to breakdown a door.
Damn it! Shelby got shut in the damn downstairs closet again……
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That’s her sometimes resting bitch face. She is spoiled rotten. I got the big hero hug for rescuing her. Never mind, I’m the one that shut her in there by accident….shhhhh
A more loving people-pleaser, you never knew. Same with other animals. Bring your dog over, she’ll show it the food and water dish and watch while it snacks.
I have a similar fear that the HOA will make me take mine down, for similar reasons. Not happening.
Well she was a real c*nt about it. She only brought it up when I was asking one of her guest to move their vehicle out of my driveway. Fortunately she has since moved across town.
It really is rich, a Warden bitching about surveillance. Suffice to say I avoid her AO. Any interaction with her will be filmed.
11-year-old boy shot and killed while playing "ding dong ditch" doorbell prank in Houston
Police say an 11-year-old boy died Sunday after he was shot playing the "ding dong ditch" doorbell-ringing prank in east Houston.
www.cbsnews.com
This is the part people fail to realize. They dont have to convict you. They just need to ruin you.....financially and emotionally. Not guilty, balls deep in debt with your good name smeared through the mud......they win
Good shoot.
Fuck around with peoples property at night and make them think there is a home invasion you get whatever the fuck it is that's coming to you.
Shoot through the door until it stops then hardpoint the house.
Parents should be charged for criminal neglect allowing their fuck fruit to run around causing mayhem at 11pm.
Fuck around with peoples property at night and make them think there is a home invasion you get whatever the fuck it is that's coming to you.
Shoot through the door until it stops then hardpoint the house.
Parents should be charged for criminal neglect allowing their fuck fruit to run around causing mayhem at 11pm.
Stand by the smelling salts - completely 100% agree with everything you said.
I wonder how this turned out for the home owner at the story is a few months old now .
This guy chased after a carload of kids and ran them off the road. Unfortunately for him 3 died and he got convicted of first degree murder x 3 and was sentenced to life no parole.
www.cbsnews.com
California man guilty of killing 3 after doorbell prank
Anurag Chandra was convicted of three counts of first-degree murder and three counts of attempted murder.
www.cbsnews.com
Somewhere about 1995, I was woken by some pounding on my front door about 3AM. No peep hole. I tried to look out a window without being seen. More serious pounding on the door. I finally opened the door with my 1911 on go against the door slab. Cops. I had not seen any blue lights out there. The guy apologized for the rude awakening...a bunch of vehicles had been vandalized up and down the street and they were trying to expedite who owned what and all. Ours were in the back with my chow. No damages, no thefts. This cop told me later that same morning that he felt pretty sure I had a gun on him the whole time. I just smiled at him, "You guys should have your lights on."
If that guy had kicked in my door, I'd have shot him before the rest of them shot me.
If that guy had kicked in my door, I'd have shot him before the rest of them shot me.
Hopefully, they'll enact legislation that allows a falsely accused defendant to sue the State/prosecutors to recover the costs they incurred in defending themselves. But, of course... most likely not. I'm pretty sure prosecutors have qualified immunity.
11-year-old boy shot and killed while playing "ding dong ditch" doorbell prank in Houston
Police say an 11-year-old boy died Sunday after he was shot playing the "ding dong ditch" doorbell-ringing prank in east Houston.
If this report is accurate, and the boy was shot/hit by the homeowner while in the process of fleeing, then the homeowner is in some serious trouble. That's basic self-defesne law. You don't shoot someone who is fleeing... unless they're fleeing with one of your loved ones as a hostage or something, or pointing a gun at you while fleeing.
A lot of times, they don't, once they arrive at the desired location. As an EMT (now retired), I took a call in my garden apt. complex. A bunch of row units. The call was two rows up from my apt. As I walked up to it (my squad encouraged off duty members to respond directly to the scene ASAP), I saw the LEO unit arrive, but he went totally dark almost immediately after turning the corner towards our row of units. Took me a couple of seconds to recognize the LEO, but it turned out to be one that was living in the unit row next to mine. LEO: "Hey whassup?" Me: "Oh, Sorry!" It was almost 2 in the morning. He was trying to be considerate of his own neighbors by not having the lights on and waking everyone up and disturbing them. I'm thinking he might have taken some $hit for waking people up at that hour of the morning. Ah well.
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Not necessarily. Depends on how the bullets entered. He could be bleeding internally and collapsed.
Florida has the same.... both Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground. But just because you have the right to shoot, doesn't mean you should.
Prosecutors have the "right of rebuttal." If they think your use of Castle doctrine or SYG is invalid, they can charge you. You still have to demonstrate that you were in imminent fear of death or great bodily harm and articulate that to a "reasonable and prudent" person. Now, FL Castle doctrine makes that fear "automatically assumed" if they actually get into your house (B & E). But one still must be very careful.
Such absolute bullshit! Butler should never have been charged. Violently attempting to bust down a home door at 3 a.m., his response was completely understandable and justified. Hell, forget "justified," it was warranted.
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