DPMS LR .308

[para1505]

I am a bolt shooter but love auto loaders. Thinking about getting one. So is the DPMS LR .308 claim on accuracy on thier web site as good as they claim ? I shoot out to 800 yards. I do not know much about what is good and what is not in this AR type rifles for long range. So anything any one would like to share would be great. Also i don't live very far from the Mid Missoure Machine Gun (MMMG). Has any one had any dealings with them? They have a store close to wear I live.

 

[Awesymoto]

Re: DPMS LR .308

Sum this up, try and search the hide first but IMO

LaRue, Armalite, POF, LWRC, Les Baer, KAC, GAP = the highest end Large caliber AR's
DPMS, Remington, Bushmaster, and a few others. = well known companies that perform well
Then you have all the others that are probably very good, but have unknown track records.

DPMS, KAC, Remington, etc style I prefer due to the magazines being widely accepted as the standard. (M110 Style)

 

[gtriever]

Re: DPMS LR .308

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Awesymoto</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DPMS, KAC, Remington, etc style I prefer due to the magazines being widely accepted as the standard. (M110 Style)
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Can someone explain to me why this matters?

 

[Jon Lester]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GTriever</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Awesymoto</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DPMS, KAC, Remington, etc style I prefer due to the magazines being widely accepted as the standard. (M110 Style)
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Can someone explain to me why this matters? </div></div>

Mag Availibility at a decent price.

 

[palma]

Re: DPMS LR .308

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GTriever</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Awesymoto</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DPMS, KAC, Remington, etc style I prefer due to the magazines being widely accepted as the standard. (M110 Style)
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Can someone explain to me why this matters? </div></div>

Price. Although I did get a heck of a deal on 10 armalite 20-rounders from the forum.

 

[gtriever]

Re: DPMS LR .308

Thanks, guys. Although the Armalite Gen IIs are a little pricy, I've never had a problem finding them (and to be honest I don't consider the price to be out of line when you consider the cost of some other mags).

To the OP, sorry for the side-track...

 

[para1505]

Re: DPMS LR .308

sounds like a little info I would like to know.

 

[bunsen27]

Re: DPMS LR .308

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: para1505</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am a bolt shooter but love auto loaders. Thinking about getting one. So is the DPMS LR .308 claim on accuracy on thier web site as good as they claim ? I shoot out to 800 yards. I do not know much about what is good and what is not in this AR type rifles for long range. So anything any one would like to share would be great. Also i don't live very far from the Mid Missoure Machine Gun (MMMG). Has any one had any dealings with them? They have a store close to wear I live. </div></div>

I'm not sure what the DPMS websites claim on accuracy is but here is a thread link about real world accuracy of the LR-308:

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...743#Post2413743

I know my DPMS LR-308 is VERY accurate, and that I have been extremely pleased with it's performance. Granted it is not a bone stock rifle, but it is a factory barrel. When I was ordering my rifle last Jan there were a fair number of people bashing DPMS's QC in numerous threads. Naturally, I was concerned, but proceeded with the order. I'm very glad I did!

As others have mentioned there are other top end AR-10 manufactures out there and they are a little bit above what a DPMS willl cost. It's up to you to decide what you want in your rifle and what you are willing to/can afford to pay.

 

[Zebra644]

Re: DPMS LR .308

The KAC, DPMS, ( SR-25 pattern) can use the 20 rns P-Mag vs. the AR-10 / Rockrivers uses the FNAL style. The P-Mags are usually around 20 bucks, are lighter, and have solved many of the feeding problems that people have had with a .308 semi platform. I own a LR-308 24" (and to avoid a thread jacking brawl, broke the barrel in per DPMS instruction manual). After 300 rnds, at 100 yds with FGGM 168 I could put 3 rnds in the size of a dime. I had replaced the stock trigger with a Wilson Combat TTU, installed a Magpul PRS and granted it was a heavy gun, but accurate. I never had one Jam, FTF,Stove pipe or anything outta my DPMS LR-308 using the P Mag and using CLP.

 

[justdave]

Re: DPMS LR .308

What you need to know is...DPMS does not make an accuracy guarantee. And, when you get to the last sentense, of the last paragraph, of the last page of the owners manual, it will tell you to expect somewhere between .125 and 1.5 MOA accuracy. Procede at your own risk.

 

[Boomholzer]

Re: DPMS LR .308

I owned a AR-10T and own a DMPS LR-308 (24" heavy). I consider the DPMS superior in accuracy and function. The issues I have had with the DPMS were related to the magazine. The Armalite had FTE issues and was not nearly as accurate.

 

[righttobeararms8]

Re: DPMS LR .308

I've got a LR-308 that started life as a 16" Oracle base model. It has since received a few upgrades to the handguard, stock, pistol grip & trigger, but the barrel is factory. This gun is capable of hitting a steel silhouette target regularly at 800 yards when fed handloads. I've been more than pleased with its performance.

 

[SPDSNYPR]

Re: DPMS LR .308

I've had a DPMS LR-308 that I put together from parts. I am a Colt armorer for my department, so I have a lot of tools readily available to me that would have been expensive to buy for a one-off project. I also happen to know a really good machinist who was able to cut the barrel down to 20" and recrown it for me at little cost (he has done a significant amount of work for us on our department Rem 700s that we have been very happy with).

I know DPMS does not make an accuracy guarantee, but this rifle has been a solid 3/4 MOA gun for me, and has done much better. Gas guns are harder to shoot well IMO, and I have to do things a little differently to get the results I want compared to our bolt guns. But I can put a cold bore shot where I want, and it shoots very decent groups. I have only shot it to 800, but I have been very happy with the rifle altogether. It is reliable (I had one malfunction in the first mag I shot through it and not one since), accurate, and it gives me the ability to launch follow-up shots faster than any bolt gun.

It is not perfect. I don't like that DPMS makes so many heights of their receivers (the top rail). Pick one and stick with it, dammit. The carrier key wasn't staked well at all, but that was easily fixed before I fired the first shot out of the thing. I bought a decent trigger and put it into the receiver when I was building it, so I didn't have to mess with a crap stock trigger.

Overall, for the money, they are very decent rifles. I cobbled it together to see if I thought a gas gun was viable for a precision rifle for me. It is.

And yeah, I know. I need to paint the scope cover. It's the wrong size, and I'll paint the right sized one when I get it.

 

[jtb33]

Re: DPMS LR .308

No complaints on the accuracy of my LR-308. It's actually one of the Bushmaster branded 308's:

 

[JBomb]

Re: DPMS LR .308

I bought this DPMS LR308L from a fellow hide member. He said it was a solid 1 MOA performer. To be honest, I never expected it to be a real accurate gun. Now, after shooting it, I'm rethinking the whole 17lb. bolt gun theory. I'm sure for sustained fire the bolt gun would win, but none the less...I'm very happy with DPMS.

Here's a group from 450 yards, the windage is off quite a bit as I'm used to the MOA turrets on my Nightforce and I'm using MIL turrets on this gun.

 

[twadsw01]

Re: DPMS LR .308

From direct personal experience about 10 months ago, I <span style="font-style: italic">would not</span> recommend <span style="font-style: italic">against</span> a DPMS 308-pattern AR (only because of the great experience so many people have had with their own), but I would advise that you be prepared to have to take it to a gunsmith to get it running properly.

I'm <span style="font-weight: bold">not</span> saying you definitely will need to do this. You probably have a better chance of getting one off the line which operates perfectly with whatever ammunition you choose to use in it than one that doesn't - but you also may end up with one which will not reliably fire two cartridges in a row. If you end up with one like this, DPMS will fix it, but it's up to you whether you'd rather send it to them, or simply take it to an experienced gunsmith near you who can do the work quickly and get it back in your hands, functioning reliably.

Just my two cents. Not something I "heard from a guy". This was my own experience.

 

[normbal]

Re: DPMS LR .308

Have two. REPR and an 18" carbine. Two words: aftermarket triggers.

REPR has a Geissele SA, Carbine has a Timney drop-in, BOTH have the anti-walk pins. I find this takes out a LOT of the roughness of the break (anti-walk pins align the sear engagement so it's parallel and everything lets go at once. Simplified some, but that's about it).

At first, I was getting minute of target groups with the REPR, used to bolt guns as I was (several that routinely get quarter MOA groups), a friend of mine put me through some trigger control drills (mostly follow-through) and I was shooting under an inch in short order. Went to the range last week with the REPR and an LTR and was making consistent hits on steel (12x17 and smaller) out to 860 yards with both.

Take your time, concentrate more on trigger control.