Ok so I have had this 6.5 Creedmoor Sav M12 LR Hunter for awhile and never been able to get better than 4 inch groups out of it with - Factory or Handloads-I was finally about to give up on it and took it to the Range one more time with no Success my buddy says man whats wrong? Well I cannot get any good groups out of this POS rifle, He takes a look at it and says here's your problem your scope rings arent tight. Duh problem solved. Sometimes little problems are easily solved