Gunsmithing Duracoat Trustrip and Reducer
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Polane B Application Guide
Polane B Reducer MSDS
Sherwin Williams Commercial Coatings division will have the reducer, looks like MEK and Xylene mostly.
Polane B Application Guide
Polane B Reducer MSDS
Sherwin Williams Commercial Coatings division will have the reducer, looks like MEK and Xylene mostly.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Captain Kick-Ass</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone know what the renamed chemicals are? Xylene, MEK, ect? I've searched the shit out of this and nothing has turned up. Gotta be something common you can buy locally..... </div></div>
Acetone for the reducer (homedepot) and brakleen for stripping (NAPA auto parts)
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Captain Kick-Ass</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone know what the renamed chemicals are? Xylene, MEK, ect? I've searched the shit out of this and nothing has turned up. Gotta be something common you can buy locally..... </div></div>
Acetone for the reducer (homedepot) and brakleen for stripping (NAPA auto parts)
Re: Duracoat Trustrip and Reducer
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tpowers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Acetone for the reducer (homedepot) and brakleen for stripping (NAPA auto parts)
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Todd, your the professional but I've never had brake cleaner remove duracoat. I have a few guns I've sprayed with the duracoat and I clean the gunk out of the same guns with brake cleaner. Do you have to soak it or something?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tpowers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Acetone for the reducer (homedepot) and brakleen for stripping (NAPA auto parts)
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Todd, your the professional but I've never had brake cleaner remove duracoat. I have a few guns I've sprayed with the duracoat and I clean the gunk out of the same guns with brake cleaner. Do you have to soak it or something?
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Captain, I have sprayed the stuff a few times and never needed to reduce it first.
I use the Trustrip stuff in the aerosal but the main thing seems to be to have a metal surface the paint can grab hold of. I tried it on something that was glass beaded without good result but when it was parkerized or I lightly blasted it with silicon carbide the stuff went on well and held up well. The silicon carbide cuts the surface rather than peen it like glass does.
Captain, I have sprayed the stuff a few times and never needed to reduce it first.
I use the Trustrip stuff in the aerosal but the main thing seems to be to have a metal surface the paint can grab hold of. I tried it on something that was glass beaded without good result but when it was parkerized or I lightly blasted it with silicon carbide the stuff went on well and held up well. The silicon carbide cuts the surface rather than peen it like glass does.
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When I sprayed single colors and some simple camo patterns we always reduced it a little bit. It helps get it thru your airbrush without it gunking up real bad. If you dont clean that airbrush very well it is going to dry up and render it useless. Also use less hardener then you think. I once went by the directions and it ended up being WAY to much and made it very glossy.
Clean your parts very well then warm them with a heat gun or blow dryer. I never had access to a media blaster but used 1200 grit automotive sandpaper a few times and it seems to be just enough to ruff up the surfaces enough to get it to stick. Then get some space heaters..... get your room plenty hot for drying. Make sure to use FLAT CLEAR COAT when you are all done. That clear will save you some headache down the road and will make your new finish that extra step more tough then before.
good luck with your projects
When I sprayed single colors and some simple camo patterns we always reduced it a little bit. It helps get it thru your airbrush without it gunking up real bad. If you dont clean that airbrush very well it is going to dry up and render it useless. Also use less hardener then you think. I once went by the directions and it ended up being WAY to much and made it very glossy.
Clean your parts very well then warm them with a heat gun or blow dryer. I never had access to a media blaster but used 1200 grit automotive sandpaper a few times and it seems to be just enough to ruff up the surfaces enough to get it to stick. Then get some space heaters..... get your room plenty hot for drying. Make sure to use FLAT CLEAR COAT when you are all done. That clear will save you some headache down the road and will make your new finish that extra step more tough then before.
good luck with your projects
Re: Duracoat Trustrip and Reducer
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jiwilliams</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tpowers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Acetone for the reducer (homedepot) and brakleen for stripping (NAPA auto parts)
</div></div>
Todd, your the professional but I've never had brake cleaner remove duracoat. I have a few guns I've sprayed with the duracoat and I clean the gunk out of the same guns with brake cleaner. Do you have to soak it or something? </div></div>
Yes, I leave it in a bucket for about 15mins and then wipe it off.
It is an actual brand called Brakleen, that is primarily used on automotive parts to remove all lubricants and foreign materials. It is usually in an aerosol version easily available, but can be ordered by quart, gallon, and 5 gallon all from NAPA. Brakleen will burn a little if you get it on your hands and leave them chalky white just to give you the heads up. I don't use it to do cleaning maintenance to any of firearms only to remove all forms of grease that will screw up the coating, before they go in the sand blaster. I have heard of some of the stronger cleaners removing duracoat though.
*Be careful with composite materials. Most will be okay, but some can be harmed by the brakleen. I tend not to leave any composites in it for any length of time. There are no issues with metals.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jiwilliams</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tpowers</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Acetone for the reducer (homedepot) and brakleen for stripping (NAPA auto parts)
</div></div>
Todd, your the professional but I've never had brake cleaner remove duracoat. I have a few guns I've sprayed with the duracoat and I clean the gunk out of the same guns with brake cleaner. Do you have to soak it or something? </div></div>
Yes, I leave it in a bucket for about 15mins and then wipe it off.
It is an actual brand called Brakleen, that is primarily used on automotive parts to remove all lubricants and foreign materials. It is usually in an aerosol version easily available, but can be ordered by quart, gallon, and 5 gallon all from NAPA. Brakleen will burn a little if you get it on your hands and leave them chalky white just to give you the heads up. I don't use it to do cleaning maintenance to any of firearms only to remove all forms of grease that will screw up the coating, before they go in the sand blaster. I have heard of some of the stronger cleaners removing duracoat though.
*Be careful with composite materials. Most will be okay, but some can be harmed by the brakleen. I tend not to leave any composites in it for any length of time. There are no issues with metals.
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Sounds funny but after blasting, scrub it with hot water to rinse the media away, then scrub it with concentrated simple green and rinse again. Blow it dry with forced air and try not to touch it with bare hands. Acetone works good too if you don't want to get parts wet. I have used brake klean too but I don't remember how it came out....... Or anything else from that night
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Sounds funny but after blasting, scrub it with hot water to rinse the media away, then scrub it with concentrated simple green and rinse again. Blow it dry with forced air and try not to touch it with bare hands. Acetone works good too if you don't want to get parts wet. I have used brake klean too but I don't remember how it came out....... Or anything else from that night
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