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dystopian society - Hunger Games

Ninja

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saw this flic for the 1st time & it reaffirmed that our Bill of inalienable Rights fought for over the years, will never be "on the table" for compromise. This may not be utopia. It is the best place in the world to take a stand.
 
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Haven't seen it or read the books but my daughters are fans, though critical in the typical ways; where the books differ from the film, choices of the characters and the actors who play them.

I agree about the dystopic nature of our society and the death cult that has so infected it coupled with the insistence, by those who profit from it and those too stupid or overwrought to reason, that we should accept the placement of blame on inanimate objects and the wholesale violation of an actual constitutional right (The 2nd amendment) in furtherance of their delusional solution to the problem.

Meanwhile the dystopic-nihilist-neolectuals (Cross between Neanderthal and pseudo intellectuals) movement steam rolls forward.

After all while surely the founders never envisioned automatic weapons (Actually, there were already incredibly advanced prototype, weapons even in 1781, that would be years in the development), they clearly provided for 1.3 million abortions/year, euthanizing the inconveniently ill, government subsidy of all things anal, millions of people flooding across the borders to vote multiple times 9each) and the lofty position of the press to be tortured into an inflexible tool of one political party.

See, how hard is that to understand?
 
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In the small world category (and for the conspiracy folk) the author, Collins lives in Newtown, CT.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ninja</div><div class="ubbcode-body">saw this flic for the 1st time & it reaffirmed that our Bill of inalienable Rights fought for over the years, will never be "on the table" for compromise. This may not be utopia. It is the best place in the world to take a stand. </div></div>

The movie is good but it is way way too happy and glossed over, get the books if you want to see a more detailed description of where we are headed and how dark it will get.
 
They are good flicks. And exactly where we are headed, albeit, they have it backwards. The oppression comes from the closed “open minded” of the left.

The straw man the left loves to build and fight in movies, “The overly tyrannical and oppressive government” is a mirror image of themselves.

Watch the movies and you will see exactly what I mean.

Katniss is hot btw...
 
That's not what I get from those movies, my ex made me watch 'em. Too Hollywood.

We're more moving along the lines of "1984" or "TXH1138" or some other totalitarian form of gov. masquerading as a democracy. It things don't change, drastically, I don't see a stable future for this country. All governments have failed, ALL of them. What makes this one any different? They all do bad and immoral shit to benefit themselves at the cost of the population, who eventually have enough and to fight back. Peacefully at first, but all means necessary if that doesn't work.
 
The World is changing ever faster.....what will be "The Way" in the future has yet to be determined. Everyone I know has an opinion and fear is rampant. Capitalism is failing and the answers to what will be a solution are in the future - not the past. There is no precedent for what is happening in 2019. We can't look back in the "data" and get a conclusion of how the economy or our society or our government will look 30 years from now because there is no historical precedent for what comes next.

No one knows and the folks who think we have textbooks and historical references are fools. The Way is forward - not back. It's gonna change in ways we cannot comprehend so open yer mind and look for a Way forward - not back. We can't go back.

There is no precedence for what comes next. We'll have to wing it and compromise and improvise and theorize and learn to accept change . The past is bullshit - there is no precedent for what comes next with AI, Robotics, billion dollar stock trades executed via cellphone, and global changes. There is no text book solution. We have to make a New Plan with New Information.

VooDoo
 
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The World is changing ever faster.....what will be "The Way" in the future has yet to be determined. Everyone I know has an opinion and fear is rampant. Capitalism is failing and the answers to what will be a solution are in the future - not the past. There is no precedent for what is happening in 2019. We can't look back in the "data" and get a conclusion of how the economy or our society or our government will look 30 years from now because there is no historical precedent for what comes next.

No one knows and the folks who think we have textbooks and historical references are fools. The Way is forward - not back. It's gonna change in ways we cannot comprehend so open yer mind and look for a Way forward - not back. We can't go back.

There is no precedence for what comes next. We'll have to wing it and compromise and improvise and theorize and learn to accept change . The past is bullshit - there is no precedent for what comes next with AI, Robotics, billion dollar stock trades executed via cellphone, and global changes. There is no text book solution. We have to make a New Plan with New Information.

VooDoo
Oh fucking bull shit
Tell me more about this free market capitalism we have now. We have crony corrupt capitalism laced strongly wth socialism.

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Capitalism is not failing, communism is winning.

The World is changing ever faster.....what will be "The Way" in the future has yet to be determined. Everyone I know has an opinion and fear is rampant. Capitalism is failing and the answers to what will be a solution are in the future - not the past. There is no precedent for what is happening in 2019. We can't look back in the "data" and get a conclusion of how the economy or our society or our government will look 30 years from now because there is no historical precedent for what comes next.

No one knows and the folks who think we have textbooks and historical references are fools. The Way is forward - not back. It's gonna change in ways we cannot comprehend so open yer mind and look for a Way forward - not back. We can't go back.

There is no precedence for what comes next. We'll have to wing it and compromise and improvise and theorize and learn to accept change . The past is bullshit - there is no precedent for what comes next with AI, Robotics, billion dollar stock trades executed via cellphone, and global changes. There is no text book solution. We have to make a New Plan with New Information.

VooDoo
 
There is no precedent for what is happening in 2019.
because there is no historical precedent for what comes next.

No one knows and the folks who think we have textbooks and historical references are fools.

There is no precedence for what comes next.
The past is bullshit - there is no precedent for what comes next

VooDoo

You didn't drive your talking point home quite hard enough so I'm still unclear: Are you saying there IS a precedent for what comes next?

Regarding people making historical references being fools, you'd better rethink that one pretty fast. Human nature NEVER changes, and the past has repeated itself century after century ever since man has recorded history. There will always be people who crave power and will do anything to get it. There's LOTS of historical precedent for it, and it is repeating itself, YET again, right before our eyes and it is exactly the same thing that has happened in the past, and was so accurately predicted by figures from the past who had experienced it before. If you intended to say that no one knows exactly where we're headed, or what the best solutions are, because of how all the new technology changes things then I might be inclined to agree. But if you want to say, as you seem to, that we should ignore the lessons of the past regarding the rise of tyranny, then you are the one being foolish. Ignore their strategies at your own peril.
 
I'll consider myself educated then by folks who have it figured out then.

Thank You.

VooDoo
 
I don't claim to have much figured out, but I find it the height of irony to call someone a fool for paying attention to the lessons of history that repeat themselves over and over again.
 
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I don't claim to have much figured out, but I find it the height of irony to call someone a fool for paying attention to the lessons of history that repeat themselves over and over again.
I think the saying is history doesn't repeat itself but it does rhyme.
Hopefully the Internet makes things different. Look at Waco v bundy. I think today Waco might have been surrounded by coward Feds but the Feds would be surrounded by patriots.
Today the skull might be from a fed instead of a fed burning up a bunch of kids and then taking trophy pics after
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That guy is not jbt. He's a civilian doing a lot more than most. Has an ak though so not the sharpest
 
Looks like a chickenshit trying to hide himself as much as possible behind a concrete barrier.
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That’s kind of the point of a “Hide” -concealment and protection from return fire are the ideal characteristics for one, no? It would be inconducive to longevity if one were to choose other than the best option available. His range of fire coverage looks limited, but we can’t really know what he’s trying to cover. He may see all he needs to see.
 
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That’s kind of the point of a “Hide” -concealment and protection from return fire are the ideal characteristics for one, no? It would be inconducive to longevity if one were to choose other than the best option available. His range of fire coverage looks limited, but we can’t really know what he’s trying to cover. He may see all he needs to see.

It’s fucky cause you can’t fit a rifle in those gaps. They are only 1-2 inches at most I believe. He’s all the way up to the action and based on the angle, his action would have to be mighty bendy to fit and twist the way the stock is coming out. I’m no photoshop expert but thats a piss poor shop job.
 
It’s fucky cause you can’t fit a rifle in those gaps. They are only 1-2 inches at most I believe. He’s all the way up to the action and based on the angle, his action would have to be mighty bendy to fit and twist the way the stock is coming out. I’m no photoshop expert but thats a piss poor shop job.
Could very well be, I can't tell. I was just addressing the idea in general that it's "chicken" to pick a FFP/Hide that offers concealment and protection. It's kind of the point. "If" he can see and cover what he needs to from that position (and, as you point out, that is questionable), then it's a pretty good position otherwise.
 
Hi,

@hic28

It is actually a legit picture....it was circulated heavily during the Bundy incident.
Here is a better image in which you can actually see the light through the barricades.
It was Eric Parker and he was actually charged for this, along with 3 others. (All 4 were acquitted)
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Sincerely,
Theis

That pic is way clearer. He still has a pretty shitty field of fire being in between those
 
That pic is way clearer. He still has a pretty shitty field of fire being in between those

Small slits have been used very effectively as points to launch projectiles from since the days of bows and arrows.
Especially as the distances increase, a very small change in the angle of the barrel is all you need to cover a fair bit of a target area.
It has the advantage of making effective return fire on you a lot harder (assuming they don't have something to punch through your cover or drop on top of you).

The big problem I see, is that they have kind of treed themselves there and I don't see a good exit plan because if it went hot, one side would be calling in the drones or helicopters & they are kind of all perfect targets for a strafing run.
 
a strafing run would be a triggering event, no matter the circumstances. The poor batsterds on he bridge would be gone but the guys on the other bridge would be like the redcoats returning to Boston after Lexington and concord.
 
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I was taught to swiftly ease the suffering of the wounded. Be it squirrel, rabbit, dog, or grandpa.
Yeah, I was referring more to death panels for those whom the Obamacare types deem have lived long enough. Not to leave out the oh so compassionate relatives who stand to inherit Grandpa's estate that won't be quite as large if he disagrees with our merciful prognostication.
 
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Ah I got ya, I thought he was on the other side, my bad. Still a crappy spot to ham a rifle into. Ive had to stick a rifle in a few tight spots before and it sucks. Plus if you have to move quick or yank the rifle out in a hurry it can get jammed fairly easily, that sucks.

My assumption was that he was not on "our" side...