extractor not extracting
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Re: extractor not extracting
yikes...
seek professional help...sometimes its the little things in life that screw you up
yikes...
seek professional help...sometimes its the little things in life that screw you up
Re: extractor not extracting
If the extractor looks OK then check the headspace.
Does the fired case upon rechambering extract OK?
If the chamber is on the long side for headspace and your ammo is on the short side (shoulders pushed back) this can happen as there is enough room for the case to move forward.
If the extractor looks OK then check the headspace.
Does the fired case upon rechambering extract OK?
If the chamber is on the long side for headspace and your ammo is on the short side (shoulders pushed back) this can happen as there is enough room for the case to move forward.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: palmik</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The case extracts fine after firing. Headspace cannot be an issue, since this is a belted magnum. </div></div>
My error in not paying attention to the caliber you mentioned <span style="font-weight: bold">but my statement stands - headspace can still be an issue </span>- it just isn't the shoulder - it is the belt. If the chamber was cut too deep, it will do the same thing.
I should have asked if this is new or if the gun used to work fine and just started to be a problem? Is the ammo the same as you used in the past and worked or have you changed? Is it factory or handload?
IF, this is new, then after firing, you are headspacing off the shoulder with the fire formed case and that is why it extracts when you try after firing.
It's just a thought as I have seen it happen - without gun in hand and go gauges, we are all just arm chair quarterbacks.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: palmik</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The case extracts fine after firing. Headspace cannot be an issue, since this is a belted magnum. </div></div>
My error in not paying attention to the caliber you mentioned <span style="font-weight: bold">but my statement stands - headspace can still be an issue </span>- it just isn't the shoulder - it is the belt. If the chamber was cut too deep, it will do the same thing.
I should have asked if this is new or if the gun used to work fine and just started to be a problem? Is the ammo the same as you used in the past and worked or have you changed? Is it factory or handload?
IF, this is new, then after firing, you are headspacing off the shoulder with the fire formed case and that is why it extracts when you try after firing.
It's just a thought as I have seen it happen - without gun in hand and go gauges, we are all just arm chair quarterbacks.
Re: extractor not extracting
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: palmik</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The case extracts fine after firing. Headspace cannot be an issue, since this is a belted magnum. </div></div>
belted mags head space just like others just at a different location. Instead of the neck they go off the rim. If its too deep then this might explain your troubles. Most likely not your real issue but you never know. I would seek professional help with this it is probably in your best interest.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: palmik</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The case extracts fine after firing. Headspace cannot be an issue, since this is a belted magnum. </div></div>
belted mags head space just like others just at a different location. Instead of the neck they go off the rim. If its too deep then this might explain your troubles. Most likely not your real issue but you never know. I would seek professional help with this it is probably in your best interest.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: alf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The extractor needs to be tweaked. It needs to be bent out a touch to engage more of the rim. </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poke</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: alf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The extractor needs to be tweaked. It needs to be bent out a touch to engage more of the rim. </div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Poke</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
palmik said:
Re: extractor not extracting
I think I would try tweaking the extractor first. It's the cheapest and easiest thing to do and you can do it yourself... if you're careful.
If the extractor on your 300WM is the same as most 700 extractors, it's the weak link in the chain and most likely the problem. Consider having a Sako-style extractor installed if it turns out to be the problem.
I think I would try tweaking the extractor first. It's the cheapest and easiest thing to do and you can do it yourself... if you're careful.
If the extractor on your 300WM is the same as most 700 extractors, it's the weak link in the chain and most likely the problem. Consider having a Sako-style extractor installed if it turns out to be the problem.
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Something to think about.....
#1 Magnum Headspace..Why do they make headspace guages for Magnums if headspace is NOT an issue? Measure 500rds of new mag brass in any caliber and from different manufacturers and you will find out how consistent that belt really is! My 300Wea in a 700 had 'excess' headspace when new. You need to check the headspace with proper guages.
#2 How do you "tweak" a Remington extractor? If a Remington extractor isn't functioning properly it needs to be replaced, something/somebody ALREADY "tweaked" it, that is why it isn't working
Just my Monday morning quaterbacking and .02 worth. Have a Super Sunday all.
Respectfully,
Dennis
Something to think about.....
#1 Magnum Headspace..Why do they make headspace guages for Magnums if headspace is NOT an issue? Measure 500rds of new mag brass in any caliber and from different manufacturers and you will find out how consistent that belt really is! My 300Wea in a 700 had 'excess' headspace when new. You need to check the headspace with proper guages.
#2 How do you "tweak" a Remington extractor? If a Remington extractor isn't functioning properly it needs to be replaced, something/somebody ALREADY "tweaked" it, that is why it isn't working
Just my Monday morning quaterbacking and .02 worth. Have a Super Sunday all.
Respectfully,
Dennis
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I agree with BR.....not an internet advice fix.
I've already seen some bad stuff mentioned if the magnum 700 extractor is similar to the non-magnums. 700's aren't 1911's and "tweaking" the extractor isn't well advised by most.
I agree with BR.....not an internet advice fix.
I've already seen some bad stuff mentioned if the magnum 700 extractor is similar to the non-magnums. 700's aren't 1911's and "tweaking" the extractor isn't well advised by most.
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Yea, not knowing how much the OP knows about extractors or how to mess with them, y'all are right. Have a gunsmith look at it.
Yea, not knowing how much the OP knows about extractors or how to mess with them, y'all are right. Have a gunsmith look at it.
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308sako's posed a very good question that will tell you alot about the origins of your issue palmik....
308sako's posed a very good question that will tell you alot about the origins of your issue palmik....
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The round stays chambered for the most part, unless i jiggle it a bit. It looks like the extractor is too small; it may have broke. In any case, I am gonna have it looked at. I am not gonna monkey with it myself.
The round stays chambered for the most part, unless i jiggle it a bit. It looks like the extractor is too small; it may have broke. In any case, I am gonna have it looked at. I am not gonna monkey with it myself.
