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    There's no reasoning with these goblins who are Democrats and not Americans.

    Their fonder hoover didn’t quite have the same taste as the ex super model Ms Trump

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    Hoover was a patriot compared to what they have now.
     
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    I've been at the range all day. Anyone have a cliff notes version of this thread?
     
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    The leftists would want to see exactly that. Their purpose was twofold with the raid.

    Obviously, their first goal was to get something on Trump to get him convicted on a crime making him ineligible to run for President in 2024.

    The second goal was to provoke a violent response from the right in order to enact more anti-gun laws, restrict travel, enforce lockdowns, curfews, and in the interest of public safety, implement mail-in balloting - again.

    After all, they would contend, the voters are too frightened of right-wing extremists that are hell-bent on voter suppression. It would not be safe to go to a physical polling location.

    It wouldn't surprise me that if they got a violent response some sort of martial law would be declared for the midterms. Free elections would be permitted once peace and order were restored.

    There are probably lots of other reasons behind provoking a violent response but those are the biggies that I can think of for now.

    For as crazy as the leftists are, I would go out on a limb and say that in their mind, Trump isn't the problem.

    WE THE PEOPLE are the problem. WE THE PEOPLE that support, defend and believe in the Constitution are the problem. Trump, to them, is the embodiment of all that WE THE PEOPLE believe.

    If they got a violent response out of anyone on this, watch for a pogram on conservatives and Christians. With that in mind, watch for a false flag from the left.
    Yep... I'd bet its exactly what the FBI and deep state wants. To goad people into violence

    While I'd be all for a massive show of 24/7 protection... it'd have to be non threatening and done methodically and fully recorded every step so as to prove no FF.

    Just watching the Left loose their minds would be worth it
     

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    I've been at the range all day. Anyone have a cliff notes version of this thread?

    No one really knows what's going on. Too little factual info, all speculation. Only notable point IMO is the judge who signed off on the warrant was the defense lawyer Epstein pilots in 2008 that got him a sweetheart deal.

    EDIT: Updated info, found more articles saying he was defense attorney who was once a US attorney.
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    I don't understand why dumocrats are scared that Trump will win the next election. He was 100% ineffective in draining the swaps. All of the corrupt scumbags' jobs are safe
     

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    Yet voting for our Representation is a Democratic Concept and Principle - so yer OK with not being allowed to vote? I'm not whether it's in the Constitution or not. The US has always been considered to be a Constitutional Republic and should always be. But we have used and should always use democratic principles I.E. Voting for Representation to select who's running the show. The US is not a Democracy and any moron that doesn't understand *WHY* it's not a Democracy is illiterate or ignorant.

    But this country has always depended on democratic principles (The People have a say and select their Representation) as it's not an Autocracy, not supposed to be an Oligarchy (even though it now is) , a Monarchy, A Military Dictatorship, or an Aristocracy.

    I'm not for a Democracy. Nor Socialism/Communism (I am a dyed in the wool Capitalist) nor am I wanting Autocracy which is what Trump's Coup was all about - overturning an election based on the ravings of a pathological liar. And it's not done yet. Not done by a long shot. I'm not giving up my vote...that's a democratic principle. Not Democracy.

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    ? No I’m not ok with not being allowed to vote. I’m just against going through the process of voting and the election was already decided 6 months prior.

    Do some reading about what the founding fathers thought of democracy.
     
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    I don't understand why dumocrats are scared that Trump will win the next election. He was 100% ineffective in draining the swaps. All of the corrupt scumbags' jobs are safe
    And then quit the DOJ to go work for him… 😡
     

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    I think Trump should run in 2024 and tell the Democrats he is switching parties, join the Democrats, if you can't beat them, join them! Just to fuck with them, their heads would blow off of their shoulders, kinda like reverse psychology and fuck all of their shit up! Something drastic needs to happen! Shit is gettin deep! :mad:
     
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    My new theory is that Trump set them up. They'll find nothing at M.L. Maybe copies. Originals are hidden in a safe at the White House that only Trump knows about. Along with the unknown pardons. Instead of his numbers slipping he's rallying support. Hell, he has Yang and Cuomo ready to defend him. He'll sail through 2024 with 400 plus electoral votes and won't have to flee to Saudi Arabia!
     

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    I'm not above being corrected but it would have been easier to just tell me that you thought it was incorrect without immediately throwing me in the shit. I read this morning that they were there based on info they obtained from those documents. Perhaps, I stated that inaccurately but throwing insults only raises my hackles too. None of this shit is worth it to me. Trump has been under investigation for decades. It didn't start with the dems. It's become difficult to believe that that much smoke doesn't indicate a fire. So I'm guilty of not being surprised if he finally gets prosecuted for something. I'll admit to some bias but stand corrected if this turns out to have nothing to do with classified docs.
    Do you see perhaps a hint of smoke around the Bidens?

    Perhaps only around the guy that has had the total power of the political apparatus against him and come up goose egg time and again.
     

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    My new theory is that Trump set them up. They'll find nothing at M.L. Maybe copies. Originals are hidden in a safe at the White House that only Trump knows about. Along with the unknown pardons. Instead of his numbers slipping he's rallying support. Hell, he has Yang and Cuomo ready to defend him. He'll sail through 2024 with 400 plus electoral votes and won't have to flee to Saudi Arabia!
    With all due respect, I think the "raid" was window dressing/kabuki theater. They most likely have all the "documents" already lined up in advance. The prosecution of DJT will be moving forward rapidly.

    Afterall mid-terms are right around the corner.

    What constantly surprises me is the level of moronic bullshit they are pulling and it still seems to "register" with some (and not an insignificant) percentage of the electorate. I suppose that just goes to show what a great job that our "education system" has done in terms of dumbing down the population.
     

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    Correct! We are supposed to be a Federal Republic. IMHO, the term "democracy" is thrown around a lot.

    It started with Woodrow Wilson. He knew darn well that we are a Republic but "democracy" tickles the ears of people that perceive they have been disenfranchised.

    His use of the D-word was on purpose. We shouldn't fall into the trap of using it like the leftist do.

    Although they don't really believe in a voting democracy. They believe in raw power that only they can wield.
    Constitutional republic, but yes
     

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    At the risk of being called a communist, your numbers seem a little suspect. Census says there are 168 million registered voters in 2020 up from 158 million in 2016.

    That's not to say their wasn't fraud, just your claim seems, well bullshit.
    81 million for Biden and 70 plus million for Trump.

    That comes out to 156 plus million of 168.

    Comparable to North Korea.
     

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    So this isn't about some files that didn't get returned is it.
    No. It's about getting enough material to prove Sedition in a court of law. The Jan. 6th Investigation has heard damning evidence from the lips of Trump Campaign insiders and they are gonna try and hang him with that testimony. They want Trump in jail and have the testimony and paper to maybe get that done if they play their cards correctly or bribe/scam the right people. They didn't get a search warrant for what they wanted (and no one yet knows exactly what that was) from a Judge on circumstantial bullshit. They want his ass bad and seem to have a 90% case already..

    They want him in jail so they can Epstein him or shut him up. Right or wrong, bullshit or no this is what it is. They want him. Bad. And they have enough stuff to get a search warrant which is not that easy no matter that Dude is a prior POTUS. They got serious paper or they wouldn't have gotten a warrant.

    The next few weeks will be very interesting.

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    Do you see perhaps a hint of smoke around the Bidens?

    Perhaps only around the guy that has had the total power of the political apparatus against him and come up goose egg time and again.
    The guy is biased, let's at least be fair. Peoples hate for various political figures shuts their brains down to the point they can't think critically.

    Whatever happened to equal prosecution under the law? How are we not seeing raids on the Bidens, or other families. Even democrats like Andrew Yang and Cuomo have come out against this raid.

    So... why has nothing stuck with Trump if he's so guilty? The Russia collusion hoax has been debunked ad nauseum, amongst a slew of other charges. Unlike the Hunter laptop, please show me some solid tangible evidence. I have seen picks of Hunter smoking crack and getting his dick sucked by a teenager. There's emails and video of Biden directly implicating himself with treasonous activity with Ukraine and China, yet we hear crickets, think about that. I will add that this seems like a move in desperation to keep Trump from running again in 2024, but it was done in haste and will backfire big time.

    these are crazy times.
     
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    81 million for Biden and 70 plus million for Trump.

    That comes out to 156 plus million of 168.

    Comparable to North Korea.
    A lot of mail in ballots which they were telling everyone on the news shows weeks before the election that Trump will have the lead at first going into the night until they count the mail in ballots ,then Biden will take the lead. I found it strange that they knew all the mail in ballots were for Biden before election night.
     

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    To most people, 81 million is a meaningless number.

    94%

    That's the percentage of registered voters in 2020 who had to have cast a ballot that was counted to achieve the number of votes recorded.

    94%

    That means if the voter rolls the country wide were 94% accurate that 100% of that '94% valid' voters would have had to cast a vote, that vote ben legible, valid, and get counted.
    Your lobotomy appears to have failed because your frontal lobe still echos the regime’s talking points.
     

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    81 million for Biden and 70 plus million for Trump.

    That comes out to 156 plus million of 168.

    Comparable to North Korea.
    Go home you're drunk.

    In North Korea its 100% turnout and 100% votes for the winner.

    We had like 60% turnout. There are 258 Million Voters. only 165 million are registered.
     

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    The leftists would want to see exactly that. Their purpose was twofold with the raid.

    Obviously, their first goal was to get something on Trump to get him convicted on a crime making him ineligible to run for President in 2024.

    The second goal was to provoke a violent response from the right in order to enact more anti-gun laws, restrict travel, enforce lockdowns, curfews, and in the interest of public safety, implement mail-in balloting - again.

    After all, they would contend, the voters are too frightened of right-wing extremists that are hell-bent on voter suppression. It would not be safe to go to a physical polling location.

    It wouldn't surprise me that if they got a violent response some sort of martial law would be declared for the midterms. Free elections would be permitted once peace and order were restored.

    There are probably lots of other reasons behind provoking a violent response but those are the biggies that I can think of for now.

    For as crazy as the leftists are, I would go out on a limb and say that in their mind, Trump isn't the problem.

    WE THE PEOPLE are the problem. WE THE PEOPLE that support, defend and believe in the Constitution are the problem. Trump, to them, is the embodiment of all that WE THE PEOPLE believe.

    If they got a violent response out of anyone on this, watch for a pogram on conservatives and Christians. With that in mind, watch for a false flag from the left.
    Bingo. If the Left hopes for a violent response so they have an excuse to smother the Right out of existence than it's not much of a revolt.
     

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    No. It's about getting enough material to prove Sedition in a court of law. The Jan. 6th Investigation has heard damning evidence from the lips of Trump Campaign insiders and they are gonna try and hang him with that testimony. They want Trump in jail and have the testimony and paper to maybe get that done if they play their cards correctly or bribe/scam the right people. They didn't get a search warrant for what they wanted (and no one yet knows exactly what that was) from a Judge on circumstantial bullshit. They want his ass bad and seem to have a 90% case already..

    They want him in jail so they can Epstein him or shut him up. Right or wrong, bullshit or no this is what it is. They want him. Bad. And they have enough stuff to get a search warrant which is not that easy no matter that Dude is a prior POTUS. They got serious paper or they wouldn't have gotten a warrant.

    The next few weeks will be very interesting.

    VooDoo
    Yeah, this is the same utter BULL SHIT that we heard all along the Russia gate atrocities. "Well the must have something, they got a FISA warrant".... GET OUT OF HERE WITH THIS COMPLETE GARBAGE.
     

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    It's not remarkable at all when you label everyone who disagrees with you or has varied perspective and experience as a "Commie/UnAmerican/Leftists/Socialist etc. You make up yer own rules, definitions and labels and then decide that anyone who doesn't placate you/cater to yer bullshit is "one of them thar commie pinko lefty Democrat socialist turds.

    Of course you see them everywhere. You got to make all yer own definitions in yer own little world.

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    Well, there’s that time you admitted you were a Bernie Bro, so… not really. You did that.
     
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    Here is what it looks like on the causeway bridge in front of Mar-a-Largo this evening. Pretty good mix of Trump supporters, glowie’s, and a shit ton of media. Closer to the compound a shit load of cops & unmarked SUV’s even a 1/2 mile or so up the road on the island there’s more of those Black Suv’s in some vacant lots.

    It’s sickening to think they are this fearless of the people & disrespectful of law. These cocksucking politicians should all have to be hooked to a lie detector when they take the oath of office. There needs to be REAL CONSEQUENCES when they violate that oath. DeSantis fired that commie SA, great, but he should’ve been thrown jail & lifetime bared from ever holding public office, all of them!

    IMO this was a hail marry cause they didn’t have shit on him after all the Jan 6th clown-show BS. They took everything & it was just an excuse to get in there & hopefully find anything actionable to stop him from running 2024! I don’t think this is going to work out well for the Demonicrats!

    There is other fuckery going on here. I’m about 99.9% sure they are using Stingrays to intercept all cell traffic within about 1 mile radius of the compound. Why do I say that?

    Here’s why. I’m in W Palm for work this week. Decided to drive by after work to check it out. Hotel is about 4 miles away. Put Mar-a-Largo in waze on my personal phone (from about 6 miles out) and did a drive by. Within 10 minutes I get the text shown below. Here’s the Kicker. That text came on my work phone. Never used waze on that phone, however it confirmed another theory I think.
    On my personal phone I refuse all current updates. I’m always at least a year behind. I also have all privacy settings locked down. I get no spam texts or add suggestions etc on that phone. My work phone on the other hand gets forced updates to keep it current & more visible to .gov! I believe the text was sent based on location of the phone. Likely a Glowie phishing scheme. It should go without saying, but don’t go to the link in that text.

    Anywhere within 1 mile of Mar-a-Largo navigation would not work at all. Signal good no nav. 2 different phones no nav. Pass a mile and nav back on. I think the Stingrays fuck up the nav cause they intercept/mimic a cell tower but with unknown location.

    If it ever came to a point where an actual organized rebellion was warranted, effective coms would be the achilles heal. We are already in a technological train car. That last part is a BIG FUCKING DEAL to me & it should be to all of you. They own coms, there is no free speech! Not on here or anywhere else. We’ve been quietly loaded in the technological train at a break neck pace starting with the Patriot act. Ron & Rand Pual were about the only Canary’s in the coal mine on this subject. Face to face is about all there is at this point & you better have your phone off even then.

    To the best of my knowledge Tails run on Tor is the ONLY coms signal that hasn’t been cracked. Are they listening to everyone & everything all the time, no but it doesn’t feel very free to know they can if you wind up on one of their lists.

    Think about all the BS gun laws they are passing criminalizing formerly legal conduct. Everyone screams I shall not comply, well you better not ever admit to any of that non compliance over any form of electronic communication, thus giving them a technically legal excuse to round you up.

    The level of .gov paranoia for there own signals defense is a big tell of their capabilities. I’d love to say more, but better leave it at that.

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    No. It's about getting enough material to prove Sedition in a court of law. The Jan. 6th Investigation has heard damning evidence from the lips of Trump Campaign insiders and they are gonna try and hang him with that testimony. They want Trump in jail and have the testimony and paper to maybe get that done if they play their cards correctly or bribe/scam the right people. They didn't get a search warrant for what they wanted (and no one yet knows exactly what that was) from a Judge on circumstantial bullshit. They want his ass bad and seem to have a 90% case already..

    They want him in jail so they can Epstein him or shut him up. Right or wrong, bullshit or no this is what it is. They want him. Bad. And they have enough stuff to get a search warrant which is not that easy no matter that Dude is a prior POTUS. They got serious paper or they wouldn't have gotten a warrant.

    The next few weeks will be very interesting.

    VooDoo
    they got at least 4 other warrants approved to go after trump, and they were all based on lies.
    don't assume there is anything valid about the warrant approved by epstein's former attorney.

    you do realize the victim's attorney in the epstein case said that trump was the only celebrity that offered to help him put epstein in jail, right?
    if trump is president again, the client list goes public. this is all you need to know about who hates trump.
     

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    You have to understand where this clown is coming from. He blames Trump for his problems over the last couple years. He blames Trump for shutting down the country and him getting kicked to the curb by his employer. You can go back and read his postings about him having a travel pass from his employer and then his employer found out that they could get a government check and not have to repay it if they cut down their employment numbers (PPP program). His employer yanked his travel pass and handed him a pink slip. He thought he was irreplaceable and found out that he was just a non factor in the company.
    So he blames Trump.
    Nailed it. Been saying this for a long time
     
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    Can someone please explain how this is true? Am I not reading the constitution correctly?
    Most commonly this is reffering to the wording "being necessary to the security of a free state, THE PEOPLES right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed". Therefore, IF the state is Not free, the people have the ability to take control of the government and restore constitutional governance . There are also many writings of our founders that proclaim that it is not only a right but a requirement of the people to rid themselves of a tyrannical government, ect.... It's a quite well founded assertion one would take away from reading the writings of the founders, coupled with what they saw fit to say and word in such a particular way as they did the 4th Amendment.
     
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    Can someone please explain how this is true? Am I not reading the constitution correctly?
    Is this clear enough for you?

    Section 3. Government instituted for common benefit.
    That government is, or ought to be, instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security of the people, nation, or community; of all the various modes and forms of government, that is best which is capable of producing the greatest degree of happiness and safety, and is most effectually secured against the danger of maladministration; and, whenever any government shall be found inadequate or contrary to these purposes, a majority of the community hath an indubitable, inalienable, and indefeasible right to reform, alter, or abolish it, in such manner as shall be judged most conducive to the public weal.
     
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