I was skeptical at first of Wonder Optics and the Wotac 4-16x50 with MOA/MOA setup. I called the owner and talked to him for a few minutes and realized he knew what he was talking about. I ordered it set it on a set of Super Sniper 30mm rings and couldn't be happier with the setup. I have it on my 308 now but it will go on my 223 24" bull that is on order. Glass is excellent I won't compare it to anything but I've seen Leupold Zeiss, etc. It is great glass I am very pleased with. The recticle is clear and easily read with clicks audible and precise with no play in-between. The SF works fabulous and this scope is a all around success. I love the price and the product I will surely purchase another soon. Sorry for the bad pics but they were off my Iphone I can't find my camera.