F T/R Competition First F class need pointers.

[CaptRob]

I have talked myself into shooting the LA State Championship FClass prone competition. I have never shot in a F Class competition and was looking for some pointers. What equipment do I need to take, and what is a good scope magnification? This will be a good excuse to go get a new Nightforce. Thanks in advance for your input.

 

[matchking]

Re: First F class need pointers.

Good deal. You will have fun. Other than your rifle/scope, just bring a shooting mat, chair and a spotting scope if you have one.

As for the scope, anything above 20 power should be more than enough. There are many that will tell you that a 42x NF is required, but a 25x topend really is plenty enough. If the scope is to be used only for square-range KD shooting, a variable with as much magnification as you can handle or a fixed power in the 32x power range gets my vote. If the rig is to be used for anything else, a variable with a lower mag range is probably advisable.

Of course, this is coming from a nobody that thinks a FFP scope can be used to make precision shots.

 

[HarryBallz2029]

Re: First F class need pointers.

What is your rifle setup? also I would recommend picking up the MidwayUSA prone shooting pad for $80 bucks. Much more comfy then shooting in the dirt.

 

[gstaylorg]

Re: First F class need pointers.

Here are some recent threads similar to yours with info that may be helpful to answering your questions:

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3399687#Post3399687

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3475765#Post3475765

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3315224#Post3315224

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3411013#Post3411013

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3347494#Post3347494

There is a lot of information in these posts that you probably want to sift through and take what you can use from it. Best of luck with your competition and I hope you enjoy it!

 

[CaptRob]

Re: First F class need pointers.

What do you guys think about open vs ftr? As for rifles I could use one of
Rem 5R 223
Rem 700 in 300WM built by kelbley with a 30" barrel
GA Precision Crusader in 308
Rem 700 that has been accurized in 22-250
DPMS SASS in 308

 

[XTR]

Re: First F class need pointers.

Use the Crusader and shoot F-TR

You need a bipod and a rear bag. Just have fun, pay attention . Browse in here, there are several threads that talk about gear to start

 

[memilanuk]

Re: First F class need pointers.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CaptRob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What do you guys think about open vs ftr? As for rifles I could use one of:</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rem 5R 223</div></div>
Depending on twist rate (1-8 or faster) may be a viable option for mid-range (300-600yd) matches.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rem 700 in 300WM built by kelbley with a 30" barrel</div></div>
Would work, but remember - no brakes, and you'll be running in the 'deep' end with the sharks and full-on built F-O rigs - the differential between a custom hunting/tactical rig in F/O calibers and a purpose-built F/O competition rig is a lot bigger than that between a custom .308 tac rifle and a dedicated F/TR rifle.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GA Precision Crusader in 308</div></div>
Solid choice, probably the best option listed here.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rem 700 that has been accurized in 22-250</div></div>
Likely doesn't have a fast enough twist rate to run the heavy bullets to make it viable, plus hard on barrels under match conditions. It may drive tacks @ 100-200... but we don't shoot @ 100-200. You need to be able to push a bullet with a BC higher than that of a wiffle ball at reasonable velocities.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DPMS SASS in 308</div></div>
Don't bother unless you want to try it just because.

 

[RStewart]

Re: First F class need pointers.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: memilanuk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CaptRob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What do you guys think about open vs ftr? As for rifles I could use one of:</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rem 5R 223</div></div>
Depending on twist rate (1-8 or faster) may be a viable option for mid-range (300-600yd) matches.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rem 700 in 300WM built by kelbley with a 30" barrel</div></div>
Would work, but remember - no brakes, and you'll be running in the 'deep' end with the sharks and full-on built F-O rigs - the differential between a custom hunting/tactical rig in F/O calibers and a purpose-built F/O competition rig is a lot bigger than that between a custom .308 tac rifle and a dedicated F/TR rifle.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GA Precision Crusader in 308</div></div>
Solid choice, probably the best option listed here.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rem 700 that has been accurized in 22-250</div></div>
Likely doesn't have a fast enough twist rate to run the heavy bullets to make it viable, plus hard on barrels under match conditions. It may drive tacks @ 100-200... but we don't shoot @ 100-200. You need to be able to push a bullet with a BC higher than that of a wiffle ball at reasonable velocities.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DPMS SASS in 308</div></div>
Don't bother unless you want to try it just because.
</div></div>

I shoot a .223 but it's a 1:6.5 twist with 30" barrel. I agree on the GAP probably being the best choice.
Look forward to seeing you!
Rick

 

[Down South]

Re: First F class need pointers.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: memilanuk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: CaptRob</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What do you guys think about open vs ftr? As for rifles I could use one of:</div></div>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rem 5R 223</div></div>
Depending on twist rate (1-8 or faster) may be a viable option for mid-range (300-600yd) matches.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rem 700 in 300WM built by kelbley with a 30" barrel</div></div>
Would work, but remember - no brakes, and you'll be running in the 'deep' end with the sharks and full-on built F-O rigs - the differential between a custom hunting/tactical rig in F/O calibers and a purpose-built F/O competition rig is a lot bigger than that between a custom .308 tac rifle and a dedicated F/TR rifle.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">GA Precision Crusader in 308</div></div>
Solid choice, probably the best option listed here.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Rem 700 that has been accurized in 22-250</div></div>
Likely doesn't have a fast enough twist rate to run the heavy bullets to make it viable, plus hard on barrels under match conditions. It may drive tacks @ 100-200... but we don't shoot @ 100-200. You need to be able to push a bullet with a BC higher than that of a wiffle ball at reasonable velocities.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">DPMS SASS in 308</div></div>
Don't bother unless you want to try it just because.
</div></div>

Well said.

 

[jimbo300]

Re: First F class need pointers.

CaptRob you will have a blast. Palo Alto is a great range with even better people.

As far as your gun options, I would probably lean toward the GAP 308. Rick's advice is dead on as far as the gun options you listed. And Rick is a dyed in the wool 223 shooter.

I have a Sinclair F-class bipod that you are welcome to use if you would like. I will be shooting in the Open class and won't be using it that day. Just PM me

 

[mickeyb]

Re: First F class need pointers.

Did you get your app in before it sold out?