First rifle, Need some help with choosing a stock.

shawn w

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First, let me say this is my first post. I have been shooting pretty much my entire life, From BB guns all the way up to various short magnums. I mostly shoot my AR's and Kalashnikovs now. Over the last couple years, I have been doing a little hunting, with a borrowed Winchester 30-30. Over the past several months, I had been looking for a sort of do it all rifle. Target, little hunting, and occasional varmint shooting. Was pretty much set on a Savage 10fp in .308. Had a buddy of mine that came up needing some money in a hurry. Offered me a 700 ADL Varmint in 308, new in box for $380. Too good of deal to pass up. I am pretty sure this is one of those guns from Dick's sporting goods. I know this rifle is pretty much as good as the Savage, Know both of them kinda have crappy stocks on them. However, either one can be turned into a real nice shooter. I am looking to replace the stock with something that feels a little nice. This one seems kinda sturdy, but just doesn't feel all that great. However being new to this. I don't really know what to look for. I know that the ADL is supposedly out of production. However, this gun looks like an SPS, with a blind magazine, and internal magazine. I've also noticed that most aftermarket stock are made for BDL's I don't really care about the floor plate that opens, but should I do the conversion to BDL so I can get a better stock? Like I said, I am fine with the blind magazine. I have no problem unloading it like that. I've searched around, and have seen these things shoot pretty good out of the box, even with the crappy non-free floating stock. So, accuracy boost would be nice, but not mandatory, cuase I am sure in the current state, the gun can shoot better than I can for now. Also, don't want something that is gonna add a whole bunch of weight to the gun. I use this as a walking gun, and it's already heavy for that, I don't want to add more weight to it.

The only company that I've seen that makes stocks for the ADL SA, varmint channel is H-S. Like this one: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=840568

While a little pricey, i've been told these are nice stocks. What else is out there that drops in?

Also, I saw on here somewhere, that if I adjust the trigger, it voids the warranty. My 700 has X Mark Pro internally adjustable trigger. The trigger breaks nice, but is a little heavy. Just want to lighten it a little. Will that void my warranty.

I have also been considering shortening the barrel a little. Like I said, I was looking at the FP10, and I did like the 24" barrel on that, and the 26" on mine, is a tad long. I was thinking of having it cut down to 22". Are there any gunsmiths that would be able to do that in the upstate SC or western NC? What would be an estimate on cutting it and doing a nice re-crown?

Thanks,
Shawn
 
Re: First rifle, Need some help with choosing a stock.

The HS stock is the best bang for the buck. I have several factory barrel actions that I have put in the HS stocks and they work well. There are better prices out there if you shop around. Give Stocky Stocks a look
 
Re: First rifle, Need some help with choosing a stock.

I think the AICS may be a little heavy and bulky, not to mention expensive, for your intended use. You might look into buying a 5R take off stock or an hs precision stock. relatively inexpensive and not overly heavy.
 
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I can't seem to find a bell and carlson that will fir an adl varmint though. Would have to do the bdl conversion to use one of those. Maybe I am just looking wrong.

Thanks,
Shawn
 
Re: First rifle, Need some help with choosing a stock.

If possible I would go out and try some of these options before you commit to anything. What is ergonomically correct for one person may not be for the next guy. Some people think the AICS is wonderful, others cannot stand the thumb-hole. Palm swells in the HS-Precision stocks are another polarizing feature. They work well for me, but I know others who really don't like them. Try before you buy.
 
Re: First rifle, Need some help with choosing a stock.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Cegorach</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If possible I would go out and try some of these options before you commit to anything. What is ergonomically correct for one person may not be for the next guy. Some people think the ACIS is wonderful, others cannot stand the thumb-hole. Palm swells in the HS-Precision stocks are another polarizing feature. They work well for me, but I know others who really don't like them. Try before you buy. </div></div>

Heed the information in the above quote - try before you buy. I was all set to buy an AI, fortunately found the AI thumb-hole was not for me, and ended with a McM A5. In addition, Rem PSS stock (HS Precision) had a nice palm swell, but was too short between the grip and trigger - the old Sendero felt better.

Watch the "for sale" section for complete take-off units. There are deals to be had.

Kevin
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think the AICS may be a little heavy and bulky, not to mention expensive, for your intended use.</div></div>
AICS surely is heavy and bulky (upon my taste at least) - and not a pleasure to carry around. It even feels heavier than another rifle of the same (measured!) weight. But once it is set up - the fun begins.
 
Re: First rifle, Need some help with choosing a stock.

Weight is important in this decision. Like I said this will be a gun I carry some, so I don't want it be any heavier than it has to be. I am also looking for a sporter style stock. Not looking to do the thumb hole route.

Also, I can't find a clear answer about the trigger. Will it void my warranty to adjust it down a little?

Thanks,
Shawn
 
Re: First rifle, Need some help with choosing a stock.

is there still a warranty since your the second owner? If you did adjust it, then send it in to Remington for repairs, they would test the trigger to make sure it is at factory settings. When they discover someone was tinkering with it, they will remove it and charge you a replacement fee on top of the existing problem.

Why would you need Remington anyways? their are plenty of competent Gunsmiths that are extremely well versed in the 700.

+1 on AICS
 
Re: First rifle, Need some help with choosing a stock.

Well for all practical purposes, I am the original owner. It was still in the box, and if I have any problems with it, my buddy can send it back for me. Although, you're right with all the great gunsmith for the 700's I would probably just have one of them do it. Although, it wouldn't be free. It would probably be better work.

Think I am going to go ahead and adjust it down a little and see how I like it. Is there any special procedure I need to use in removing and replacing the stock? I've been told the stock needs to be torqued back down a certain way. I have a inch pounds torque wrench, If anyone knows the specs for it, if I even need to do anything special.

Thanks,
Shawn
 
Re: First rifle, Need some help with choosing a stock.

The easiest answer is to buy a BDL stock and the BDL conversion kit from Brownells, it is VERY cheap, but you do have to buy an additional screw. For some reason it is not in the kit.

Just do a google search for adl to bdl conversion and a link should come up for the brownells instructional video.

It will only take a minute to change it out, then you can buy a B&C light tactical, varmint, fully adjustable, or whatever stock you fancy.