Revenge was mine, sweet sweet revenge! How is your headache now? BWAHAHAHAHA!
Yeah. It's weird how much time they have to act like hardcore shooters on Instagram but somehow never actually have the time/ambition to pull a trigger.Fuck him. I quit asking friends to go shooting/hunting. And my life is better for it.
It's your duty to get more non commie people into guns and shooting.
WGAF if they don't go drinking with you the next day.
Fuck him. I quit asking friends to go shooting/hunting. And my life is better for it.
You hit a nerve if you can't tell.This was posted as a light hearted story. Shouldn't be taken so seriously guys. He bugged me for weeks to go and when I finally had the time I said I would do it today. Why GAF if he went out drinking without me? Don't really do, but it meant that I wasn't hung over with a pounding headache at the range. If I had gone out drinking with him I probably wouldn't have gone out shooting today.
You hit a nerve if you can't tell.
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!I have friends that call me and say "I need help moving".... cause they know I will show up and do most of the heavy lifting.
When they have a party they never call me........
Fuck him. I quit asking friends to go shooting/hunting. And my life is better for it.
Friends? Oh yeah. I've tried those before.
Only ever found shit like that in Marine infantry. Some of them are pretty damn solid.
It is no coincidence, I think, that the most reliable, solid, and hard core shooting partner I've ever had is a former Marine infantryman. No whining and never an excuse out of his mouth.
There is this one guy at work who talked a good game. I took him to an IDPA match once and from then on he always had an excuse when I asked if he wanted to shoot/go to a match. But he always has pics of this new pistol or whatever that he bought. He tried to ask me all kinds of advice about building a Gucci AR and pretty much told him to leave me alone that I'm not interested debating which is the best charging handle or if nitriding is better than something else. Now after he built the rifle, he's asking me about the best 300 blackout barrel for it. Like I give one single fuck......
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Revenge was mine, sweet sweet revenge! How is your headache now? BWAHAHAHAHA!
If you are taking to me well let me tell you WTF. I am absolutely sure I have gotten more people "into" guns than 95% of the regulars on this site. Now into guns and into shooting are 2 totally different things. I have at least 8 "friends" who I have gotten to purchase various guns in the last 15ish years, all have gotten at least 1 AR. Most have over 8 guns. That is no small investment so at one time they thought it was cool. I can think of only 2 that have had a gun out of their safe in the last 2 years. (I got them to get safes as well).
All I want to do everyday is hold a gun and burn some gun powder. If I did not work and had the facilities I am sure I would shoot on a daily basis. It is hard for the average person to keep up with that.
I do work, and good facilities are at least 1 hour away. There are a dozen indoor ranges within 40 minutes but 1 and I repeat only 1 is worth a shit and most times has a wait of at least an hour. The facilities are worth it though.
With that, it is a 1/2 day minimum to go shooting with me. Most would go for an hour once in awhile but all day more than once a year seems to be to much to ask from a friend.
Next there is the ammo cost. After a day of shooting you add up ammo cost and it can be significant. I talk to them all the time and they say "if you see any good prices let me know". So today I sent them a link from this thread.
https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/psa-cci-minimags-13-99-300-rds.6911019/#post-7333491
I got back 5 responses "damn that is a great price I need to order some". I called, not texted all 5 after work, you know how many ordered some? 0 did, all of them said they were to busy today. Holy fuck me, 5 minutes on your phone and the shit comes to your front door. I am fucking done with them.
I got one guy who started bugging me a couple months ago, so I took him to the gun store and he bought his first AR. His budget was a little low but we got him set up.
We went out for 1/2 a day the next weekend, he kept bugging so a couple weeks ago I took him to a really nice 1000 yard range about 2 1/2 hours away. left the house at 6am got home at 9pm. Each spent about $30 on food, about $40 each on fuel and vehicle cost (tires, oil, Ect..... fuel isn't the only cost), range fee was $10 each, I spent around $200 on ammo, I am sure he spent $300. He was shooting cheaper stuff than me but I am sure he shot 5 rounds for every round I shot. Lets just call it a $700 day, he hasn't bugged me since and even said at the end "that was fun, but it isn't cheap". And that is how it goes, I turn them on but they can not run with me, either time wise or $$$ wise. I am not rich, I could do a trip like that 2 time a month though. I did spend a little less than him, also a 22lr trainer could cut costs.
I do a USPSA match 1 time a month, that is a good $150 day.
I used to rotate between friends and see if 1 could go 1 time a month every 8 months. Yea they still bitch about the time and money (I am sure part of it is their spouse, bitching in their ear).
But the worst is after all that, never getting invited to shit they do. I get "all you ever want to do is go shooting". While that is true, I would go do something with them. I think the real issue is, if that happens then they will feel obligated to go with me.
I am finally getting my wife to slowly become my shooting partner. I think that is mostly because she loves me and sees how much I love shooting AND how my "friends" have shit on me over time when it comes to my hobby. (you have no idea how many shooting trips were canceled with in 30 minutes of pickup time)
First of this year I said fuck it and mostly quit talking about guns around my friends. But I still have hope or I would not have sent them links for the ammo today. But that will be the last for awhile.
It seems to be a one-way street with most people.
One other thing that I have noticed. Most of them seem to think that once you have put 200-500 rounds down range you are now proficient. If you are not burning at least 1000rds a year (which is less than 20 rds a week) you are not practicing enough if you ask me. Also they all have their CCW permits. I can promise you none of them has fired a shot out of their carry gun in 2 years. Only one carries on a regular basis. They think they are ready though.
At the end of the year I should be around 5000 rds (many calibers, cartridges) and wife will be 1500 9mm or so.
Not this guy. If you engage him in any way that seems positive to him, he takes off with it and won't leave you the fuck alone.
Just for context, he's hourly and I'm salary. Because of that, I don't take lunch and breaks on a set schedule like he does. He would, at least once a week, stop by my office during his breaks or lunch and walk right in to talk guns or show me pics of whatever shit he bought that week with no consideration of my time. I finally had to tell him point blank: don't walk into my office to talk shit. If I'm in there, it's because I'm working. He's socially retarded and has no friends because he can't read neither people nor situations, AT ALL.
A friend with a boat is better than a boat. I always make sure I pay for the gas and bait. Free loaders are the worst.Ever own a boat ?
My grandfather once told me, "The fewer people you rely on, the less often you'll be disappointed."
A friend with a boat is better than a boat. I always make sure I pay for the gas and bait. Free loaders are the worst.
A friend with a boat is better than a boat. I always make sure I pay for the gas and bait. Free loaders are the worst.
That was the beginning of the end. We never went again as a group of more than 3. Guy who was 10hrs late getting home almost got a divorce. I nor any of us ever saw him again. He was not allowed to be with us.
I must say, I am not the badass some here are. Putting more effort in than most outside this forum though.
I know many here are married to some awesome women. That can make or break a man's spirit if you ask me. I know wife's that bitch about how many guns their husband's own or how much ammo. "Why do we need more than 2 guns or 2 boxes of ammo"? Yet they have a closet FULL of shoes they never wear.
Here is a story that still boggles my mind.
15ish years ago we all got together, made big plans, everyone made concessions to sync our schedules for one day. One damn day. There was 10-12 of us.
Plan was to go shooting\jack rabbit hunting. It takes a good 70 min to get to jack rabbit area. Final destination was about 2 1/2hrs away with no stops. So 5 hrs drive time round trip.
We would stop at various locations on the way, look for rabbits and then move on. Final destination we would look for rabbits, cook a meal and then target shoot for awhile.
We left at 6am, got to final destination about 2pm. We get out of the vehicles and one guy says " what time is it?" Someone says "after 2".
First guy says "oh fuck me"
A few ask "WTF"
He says "I told my wife I would be home by noon"
WTFx2, you could just barely leave the house, tag a tree at destination and haul ass back and be home by noon, leaving at 6am.
We told him tough shit, but by 5:30-6:00pm 3-4 others were bitching about being gone all day. We got home about 10pm.
That was the beginning of the end. We never went again as a group of more than 3. Guy who was 10hrs late getting home almost got a divorce. I nor any of us ever saw him again. He was not allowed to be with us.
so I have owned a boat of some brand for 25 years. Outside of my brothers only 1 has ever paid for gas and he has a business that needs write offs so he always jumps at it. I guess I don't care, someone other than I paid finally.A friend with a boat is better than a boat. I always make sure I pay for the gas and bait. Free loaders are the worst.
When I had my select fire M-16 all sorts of people would want to shoot it. I would say, "sure, bring however much ammo you want to shoot". Usually they would show up with 1-3 boxes (20-60 rounds) of ammo, and it would be gone in a heartbeat, then they would look at me as if I was supposed to supply more. I could count on one hand the number of people who brought enough ammo for themselves, AND left me some ammo to take home. The ones that sent me home with a few boxes got lots more subsequent invitations.
I try and go out of my way to not abuse a kindness or friendship. If someone drives to the range and I get the luxury of being a passenger, I will donate a bunch more toward gas money than I know it took to complete the round trip, or buy lunch, or both.
Getting labeled as a "one way" (always takes, rarely gives) was a sure fire way to end up wondering why people always leave you home when the group goes on fun outings. OTOH, the guy who buys lunch gets remembered with good thoughts.
I have a friend who likes to ride. If we travel to a match he will buy breakfast and lunch, pay my entry fee and drop a twenty somewhere so I'll find later. I keep telling him it's way too much, but that's the type guy he is. Don't have many friends like him.
When I had my select fire M-16 all sorts of people would want to shoot it. I would say, "sure, bring however much ammo you want to shoot". Usually they would show up with 1-3 boxes (20-60 rounds) of ammo, and it would be gone in a heartbeat, then they would look at me as if I was supposed to supply more. I could count on one hand the number of people who brought enough ammo for themselves, AND left me some ammo to take home. The ones that sent me home with a few boxes got lots more subsequent invitations.
I try and go out of my way to not abuse a kindness or friendship. If someone drives to the range and I get the luxury of being a passenger, I will donate a bunch more toward gas money than I know it took to complete the round trip, or buy lunch, or both.
Getting labeled as a "one way" (always takes, rarely gives) was a sure fire way to end up wondering why people always leave you home when the group goes on fun outings. OTOH, the guy who buys lunch gets remembered with good thoughts.
You know what? Y’all are some crotchety bastards. No wonder you don’t have any friends.
You know what? Y’all are some crotchety bastards. No wonder you don’t have any friends.
I can’t speak for Unknown but I’ll offer this. They say “a boat is a hole in the water you pour money into.” I imagine machine guns are similar. The best two days in a boat owner’s life? The day he buys it and the day he sells it. At least with transferable machine guns, the day he sells it is most likely not at a loss. Let someone else turn money into noise...Why did you get rid of your m16? I rarely shoot mine and like long range stuff better but it is nice to have.
When it comes to rifles and handguns, agree with one exception. He's a solid shooter who's idea of going to the range is the same as mine: to shoot and to improve.I don’t go shooting with people. I’m not there to socialize. I have an agenda. Guys that gab (but don’t shoot) at the range remind me of guys that gab (but don’t lift) at the gym. Why the fuck are you here?
Sorry, I have a root canal scheduled“Can you come to the range and help me sight in my rifle?
FUCK NO. That's another one I forgot. I once agreed to help a guy learn to reload. He thought I was his Q&A guy whenever he felt like it, despite repeated hints on where to find 95% of his answers (reloading manual). I ghosted that idiot. NEver the fuck again.“Can you load up some ammo for me?”
“Let’s go to the range!”
“Sure, tell me when”
“...”
Its an old story, and one I get regularly.
“Hey, babe, XYZ likes guns. Y’all should go to the range...”
“(Ugh) Yeah, we should. I’ll talk to him...”
I’ve got a buddy that bills himself as a “gun guy.” He’s got a nice custom bolt rifle that I’m not sure has ever been shot. I’ve been shooting a local precision match for a few months and I invite him to come along most months.
You get the millenial "Oh, I don't learn that way. "