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Rifle Scopes Good low 30mm rings for an 11mm dovetail?

michael_aos

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Question might be better suited to the rimfire forum.

I'd like to mount a Falcon Menace 5-25x50mm (30mm tube) on a rifle with an 11mm dovetail.

I'm finding mostly $10 low rings that look very poorly constructed and then $50 high (or super-high / see-through) that at least have a couple more screws in them. I have a general aversion to using higher rings than necessary.

Does anyone make decent low(ish) 30mm rings for an 11mm dovetail?
 
Re: Good low 30mm rings for an 11mm dovetail?

The only ones that I know are good are the BKL options. The problem is they seem to frequently back order stuff. But check them out for sure.

I opted to go with a rimfire tech 3/8 to picatinny adapter rail and use Warne rings on my CZ. Works awesome.
 
Re: Good low 30mm rings for an 11mm dovetail?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sled Dog</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only ones that I know are good are the BKL options. </div></div>

Thanks. I was confusing them with B-Square. I wasn't liking anything from them.

The BLK-301 looks like a possibility.
 
Re: Good low 30mm rings for an 11mm dovetail?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Michael Aos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Question might be better suited to the rimfire forum.

I'd like to mount a Falcon Menace 5-25x50mm (30mm tube) on a rifle with an 11mm dovetail.

I'm finding mostly $10 low rings that look very poorly constructed and then $50 high (or super-high / see-through) that at least have a couple more screws in them. I have a general aversion to using higher rings than necessary.

Does anyone make decent low(ish) 30mm rings for an 11mm dovetail? </div></div>
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Leupold "Sako" Ringmounts</span></span> are available in 30mm diameter on an 11mm dovetail. The lowest they have is the #51036 (.860" from bottom-of-ring to ring centerline). I've used Leupold ringmounts in the past, and they were very well machined and finished. They are machined from steel.

I've owned and shot British and German precision air rifles and pistols for 30 years, and although BKL rings have always been popular with the airgun crowd I never liked BKL's wonky designs. I usually used Beeman (manufactured by British Sportsmatch from aluminum) or Leupold rings, although at times I have used <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">B-Square InterLock</span></span> rings. They are not my favorite but the have worked fine on "gas-piston" and conventional spring-piston guns when the intregal recoil pins were used on the receiver.

BTW, when researching rings always be aware (beware!) of the method that each manufacture uses to measure each model of their rings, as not all manufacturers measure the same way. For example, some only measure the radius of the tube (outside edge of tube to the tube centerline), which does not factor-in the measurement from the top-of-the base. I know Burris does this.

Keith
 
Re: Good low 30mm rings for an 11mm dovetail?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aries64</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Leupold "Sako" Ringmounts</span></span> are available in 30mm diameter on an 11mm dovetail. The lowest they have is the #51036 (.860" from bottom-of-ring to ring centerline). I've used Leupold ringmounts in the past, and they were very well machined and finished.</div></div>

I see Leupold markets some rings specifically for 11mm dovetail (presumably 1").

The Sako 51036 rings description says Sako (Tapered Dovetail Receiver) (not for use with the Sako Finnfire or other Sako .22 rimfire rifles). I believe the Sako Quad has an 11mm dovetail.

Since they don't mention 11mm specifically, and they do have the additional warning, I'm suspecting the 51036 are NOT for an 11mm dovetail? Or have you personally used the 51036 on an 11mm dovetail?

Otherwise these look really good!
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Fit guide.
 
Re: Good low 30mm rings for an 11mm dovetail?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Michael Aos</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aries64</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Leupold "Sako" Ringmounts</span></span> are available in 30mm diameter on an 11mm dovetail. The lowest they have is the #51036 (.860" from bottom-of-ring to ring centerline). I've used Leupold ringmounts in the past, and they were very well machined and finished.</div></div>

I see Leupold markets some rings specifically for 11mm dovetail (presumably 1").</div></div>
OK, I guess you didn't bother checking the listed diameters. Leupold makes both 1" and 30mm diameter Sako rings. I know that the Leupold "Sako" rings are an 11mm dovetail "11mm Dovetail" was printed on the package I was looking at. I almost bought some for use on a gas-piston .20"/5mm air rifle, but held-off as the rings don't have integrated recoil pins common on rings designed for high-velocity air rifles.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Michael Aos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Sako 51036 rings description says Sako (Tapered Dovetail Receiver) (not for use with the Sako Finnfire or other Sako .22 rimfire rifles). I believe the Sako Quad has an 11mm dovetail.</div></div>
Yeah, I saw that. Although, you never specified the rifle that the rings will be used on. Sorry about that. What are you mounting the rings on? You should talk to someone in Leupold Technical Department and see if they know if the Sako rings will work on the rifle in question.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Michael Aos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Since they don't mention 11mm specifically, and they do have the additional warning, I'm suspecting the 51036 are NOT for an 11mm dovetail? Or have you personally used the 51036 on an 11mm dovetail?

Otherwise these look really good!
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I haven't personally used the 51036 (or any of the Leupold Sako Ringmounts, be they 1" or 30mm diameter), but as I said I had considered Leupold Sako Ringmounts' before because I had had good luck with Ringmounts before.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Michael Aos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Fit guide. </div></div>

Keith
 
Re: Good low 30mm rings for an 11mm dovetail?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Michael Aos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I see Leupold markets some rings specifically for 11mm dovetail (presumably 1").</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aries64</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
OK, I guess you didn't bother checking the listed diameters. Leupold makes both 1" and 30mm diameter Sako rings. I know that the Leupold "Sako" rings are an 11mm dovetail "11mm Dovetail" was printed on the package I was looking at.
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What I meant is Leupold markets something called an "rimfire" rings, specifically for an 11mm dovetail. PN 54231 (medium) & P/N 54232 (high). They don't call-out whether they're 1" or 30mm though, so I'm assuming they're 1".

I see the 1" and 30mm Sako rings, and they sound PERFECT. Thanks again for the tip. It just concerns me a little that they specifically state they're not for use on a Sako 22LR, because I believe the Sako 22LR are an 11mm dovetail...
 
Re: Good low 30mm rings for an 11mm dovetail?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Michael Aos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Michael Aos said:
I see Leupold markets some rings specifically for 11mm dovetail (presumably 1").</div></div>

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Aries64</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
I guess you didn't bother checking the listed diameters. Leupold makes both 1" and 30mm diameter Sako rings. I know that the Leupold "Sako" rings are an 11mm dovetail "11mm Dovetail" was printed on the package I was looking at.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Michael Aos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What I meant is Leupold markets something called an "rimfire" rings, specifically for an 11mm dovetail. PN 54231 (medium) & P/N 54232 (high). They don't call-out whether they're 1" or 30mm though, so I'm assuming they're 1".</div></div>
OK, gotcha. The rimfire rings you are referring to are called Leupold "Ringmounts". PN #54231 and PN 5423<span style="font-weight: bold">4</span> are Leupold Ringmounts. The first link I provided before takes you directly to the Leupold Ringmount page, and if you had scrolled down the page you would see that PN 54231 and PN 54234 are both listed under <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">"RIMFIRE RINGMOUNTS & HEIGHT"</span></span>. The respective descriptions are <span style="font-weight: bold">"RM RF 11mm Medium - 1.00"</span> and <span style="font-weight: bold">"RM RF 11mm High - 1.25"</span>.

Did you notice that the photo depicting the <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Leupold 54231</span></span> shows that the bottom of the mount is concave? (This is a bad example, as the photo may or may not be the correct photo). Anyway, the concave cut is probably to allow for the radius of a round receiver tube when the grooves are machined directly into the receiver top, which is very common on air rifles. I own or have owned several British and German air rifles, as well as some Kimber of Oregon .22s' that had the dovetail grooves machined directly into the receiver top. They have to use rings with concave bottoms or rings with tall bases to clear the receiver.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Michael Aos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I see the 1" and 30mm Sako rings, and they sound PERFECT. Thanks again for the tip. It just concerns me a little that they specifically state they're not for use on a Sako 22LR, because I believe the Sako 22LR are an 11mm dovetail... </div></div>
I surmise that you will be using the rings on a Sako .22 (you never actually mentioned what rifle the rings are going-on, and I did ask specifically). If you look closely at both photos of Leupold PN 51036 you can see that they do not have the concave bottom - I'm guessing that that is why Leupold's Fit Guide states <span style="font-style: italic">"not for use with the Sako Finnfire or other Sako .22 rimfire rifles"</span> (they won't).

It appears that you may be out of luck. However, I would still call Leupold and see if they have someting that might work. Be sure to tell them what rifle you will be mounting the rings on though.

Keith