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    12/23/2021 05:22 AM | CHRIS EGER

    BLACK FRIDAY GUN SHOPPING IN ETHIOPIA​



    By nature of the past 130 years frequented by conflict in the Horn of Africa, Ethiopia has tons of vintage military arms up for sale.
    One European importer, based in the Czech Republic, has been detailing their shopping trips to the African country where surplus firearms are stacked deep and priced cheap. Zelený Sport Defence's mononymous globetrotting buyer, Schuster, has been sending snaps back from his trip to Addis Ababa, Ethiopia's ancient capital, filled with historic firearms.
    The old Ethiopian Empire fought several wars against Italy (in 1887–1889, 1895-1896, 1935-37), a cycle that was only broken after liberation in World War II. This left the country with not only stacks of guns both bought to fight off the Italians-- M1874 Gras rifles, Gewehr 71s and 88s, Remington Rolling Blocks, FN-made Mausers, British Lee-Enfields, Russian Berdan and Model 91/30 Mosin-Nagants-- but also those captured from the Italians including Vetterlis, and Carcanos of every stripe.

    Ethiopian rifles stacked up
    How many can you identify? (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)
    Ethiopian rifles stacked up
    At least Ethiopia has a dry climate (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)
    Ethiopian Lugers
    Lugers, anyone? (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)
    Ethiopian rifles
    For fans of .303 British (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)

    Moving into more modern times, the Imperial Ethiopian Army fought alongside U.S. forces in Korea, and as part of the UN effort in the Congo a decade later, armed with U.S-supplied M1 Carbines, M1 Garands, and M1911s. Therefore, it is no surprise that vintage American hardware is rusting away there.

    Ethiopian 1911s
    This...hurts. (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)
    Ethiopian Colt Python
    Some body please send this Python back home! (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)
    Ethiopian rifle, M14
    This M14, however, is un-importable except as a parts kit, which is even sadder. (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)

    After the communist Derg overthrew Emperor Haile Selassie in 1974, the country became an ally of Moscow and, fighting a 17-year civil war against folks not so inclined, was flooded with military aid from Soviet arsenals. That makes AKs, SKSs and the like common in the country.

    Ethiopian rifles stacked up
    Just goes to show, you can find almost anything in Ethiopian warehouses. (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)

    With the Derg long ago consigned to the dustbin of history, a lot of that gear is now up for grabs as well. Even the 20-year-long war between Ethiopia and neighboring Eritrea calmed down in 2018, with the country seeing at least a degree of peace until the so-called Tigray War began last November, but even that seems to be winding down.
    For the past couple of years, the Ethiopians have been having a clearance sale on all this old military gear and, besides the Czechs, American importers have been getting in on the action-- as has been well chronicled by Gun Jesus-- so you can expect much of the above to be bought up and fed into the milsurp market in the near future.
    Bring it!
     

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    That poor python.
    Ya gotta wonder if those clowns know that even in that condition the Python would go for $1500 on GunBroker. But then who would send money to Ethiopia?
     
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    I’m surprised that we aren’t seeing more of these being imported. I bet there are plenty of C&R 1911s there. The komifornia market alone would make it profitable to get a container or two shipped over.
     

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    And the Middle East, Central Asia, some parts of Latin America, and Africa will be the new wild west frontier. The Outback. The Borderlands. The Scablands... Whatever you want to call it. Freedom but dangerous to those who do not know how to follow basic etiquette and codes of honor/respect. A home for fugitives fleeing the law in the East and the West. Con men, smugglers, warlords. Law enforcers from the East and the West who try to hunt down escaped fugitives here often vanish and are never found again. Guns, blasters, starship engines, shielding, the occasional prototype meson pulse rifles/pistols/SMGs smuggled out of some Eastern or Western military lab all there for sale in the many bazaars and saloons...
     
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    I am getting more and more of this feeling that in the future as tech continues to progress rapidly, the world will be divided into three zones. The massively high tech, dystopian, and heavily guarded East and West. Skyscrapers, spaceports, rollerball, hovercars, social credit, holodeck VR, Cherry 2050 and 2060 robots, etc...

    And the Middle East, Central Asia, some parts of Latin America, and Africa will be the new wild west frontier. The Outback. The Borderlands. The Scablands... Whatever you want to call it. Freedom but dangerous to those who do not know how to follow basic etiquette and codes of honor/respect. A home for fugitives fleeing the law in the East and the West. Con men, smugglers, warlords. Law enforcers from the East and the West who try to hunt down escaped fugitives here often vanish and are never found again. Guns, blasters, starship engines, shielding, the occasional prototype meson pulse rifles/pistols/SMGs smuggled out of some Eastern or Western military lab all there for sale in the many bazaars and saloons...
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    Awesome story @Maggot





    I am getting more and more of this feeling that in the future as tech continues to progress rapidly, the world will be divided into three zones. The massively high tech, dystopian, and heavily guarded East and West. Skyscrapers, spaceports, rollerball, hovercars, social credit, holodeck VR, Cherry 2050 and 2060 robots, etc...

    And the Middle East, Central Asia, some parts of Latin America, and Africa will be the new wild west frontier. The Outback. The Borderlands. The Scablands... Whatever you want to call it. Freedom but dangerous to those who do not know how to follow basic etiquette and codes of honor/respect. A home for fugitives fleeing the law in the East and the West. Con men, smugglers, warlords. Law enforcers from the East and the West who try to hunt down escaped fugitives here often vanish and are never found again. Guns, blasters, starship engines, shielding, the occasional prototype meson pulse rifles/pistols/SMGs smuggled out of some Eastern or Western military lab all there for sale in the many bazaars and saloons...
    Boquette, Volcan and Cambutal............


     
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    I am getting more and more of this feeling that in the future as tech continues to progress rapidly, the world will be divided into three zones. The massively high tech, dystopian, and heavily guarded East and West. Skyscrapers, spaceports, rollerball, hovercars, social credit, holodeck VR, Cherry 2050 and 2060 robots, etc...

    And the Middle East, Central Asia, some parts of Latin America, and Africa will be the new wild west frontier. The Outback. The Borderlands. The Scablands... Whatever you want to call it. Freedom but dangerous to those who do not know how to follow basic etiquette and codes of honor/respect. A home for fugitives fleeing the law in the East and the West. Con men, smugglers, warlords. Law enforcers from the East and the West who try to hunt down escaped fugitives here often vanish and are never found again. Guns, blasters, starship engines, shielding, the occasional prototype meson pulse rifles/pistols/SMGs smuggled out of some Eastern or Western military lab all there for sale in the many bazaars and saloons...
    So I'm not sure which sounds best for retirement out of those areas. Getting old sucks so a technical and my own compound sounds... colorful.
     
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    Ethiopia? A fukn cheeseburger should get ya a whole truckload of guns.

    Wonder if Sally Struthers is still over there eating 3/4 of the food donations arriving there?🤔

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    Better off melting those down there... building something for the economy there!
     

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    12/23/2021 05:22 AM | CHRIS EGER

    BLACK FRIDAY GUN SHOPPING IN ETHIOPIA​



    By nature of the past 130 years frequented by conflict in the Horn of Africa, Ethiopia has tons of vintage military arms up for sale.
    One European importer, based in the Czech Republic, has been detailing their shopping trips to the African country where surplus firearms are stacked deep and priced cheap. Zelený Sport Defence's mononymous globetrotting buyer, Schuster, has been sending snaps back from his trip to Addis Ababa, Ethiopia's ancient capital, filled with historic firearms.
    The old Ethiopian Empire fought several wars against Italy (in 1887–1889, 1895-1896, 1935-37), a cycle that was only broken after liberation in World War II. This left the country with not only stacks of guns both bought to fight off the Italians-- M1874 Gras rifles, Gewehr 71s and 88s, Remington Rolling Blocks, FN-made Mausers, British Lee-Enfields, Russian Berdan and Model 91/30 Mosin-Nagants-- but also those captured from the Italians including Vetterlis, and Carcanos of every stripe.

    Ethiopian rifles stacked up
    How many can you identify? (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)
    Ethiopian rifles stacked up
    At least Ethiopia has a dry climate (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)
    Ethiopian Lugers
    Lugers, anyone? (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)
    Ethiopian rifles
    For fans of .303 British (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)

    Moving into more modern times, the Imperial Ethiopian Army fought alongside U.S. forces in Korea, and as part of the UN effort in the Congo a decade later, armed with U.S-supplied M1 Carbines, M1 Garands, and M1911s. Therefore, it is no surprise that vintage American hardware is rusting away there.

    Ethiopian 1911s
    This...hurts. (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)
    Ethiopian Colt Python
    Some body please send this Python back home! (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)
    Ethiopian rifle, M14
    This M14, however, is un-importable except as a parts kit, which is even sadder. (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)

    After the communist Derg overthrew Emperor Haile Selassie in 1974, the country became an ally of Moscow and, fighting a 17-year civil war against folks not so inclined, was flooded with military aid from Soviet arsenals. That makes AKs, SKSs and the like common in the country.

    Ethiopian rifles stacked up
    Just goes to show, you can find almost anything in Ethiopian warehouses. (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)

    With the Derg long ago consigned to the dustbin of history, a lot of that gear is now up for grabs as well. Even the 20-year-long war between Ethiopia and neighboring Eritrea calmed down in 2018, with the country seeing at least a degree of peace until the so-called Tigray War began last November, but even that seems to be winding down.
    For the past couple of years, the Ethiopians have been having a clearance sale on all this old military gear and, besides the Czechs, American importers have been getting in on the action-- as has been well chronicled by Gun Jesus-- so you can expect much of the above to be bought up and fed into the milsurp market in the near future.
    Bring it!
    Sooo..... group buy?
     

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    I am getting more and more of this feeling that in the future as tech continues to progress rapidly, the world will be divided into three zones. The massively high tech, dystopian, and heavily guarded East and West. Skyscrapers, spaceports, rollerball, hovercars, social credit, holodeck VR, Cherry 2050 and 2060 robots, etc...

    And the Middle East, Central Asia, some parts of Latin America, and Africa will be the new wild west frontier. The Outback. The Borderlands. The Scablands... Whatever you want to call it. Freedom but dangerous to those who do not know how to follow basic etiquette and codes of honor/respect. A home for fugitives fleeing the law in the East and the West. Con men, smugglers, warlords. Law enforcers from the East and the West who try to hunt down escaped fugitives here often vanish and are never found again. Guns, blasters, starship engines, shielding, the occasional prototype meson pulse rifles/pistols/SMGs smuggled out of some Eastern or Western military lab all there for sale in the many bazaars and saloons...
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    12/23/2021 05:22 AM | CHRIS EGER

    BLACK FRIDAY GUN SHOPPING IN ETHIOPIA​



    By nature of the past 130 years frequented by conflict in the Horn of Africa, Ethiopia has tons of vintage military arms up for sale.
    One European importer, based in the Czech Republic, has been detailing their shopping trips to the African country where surplus firearms are stacked deep and priced cheap. Zelený Sport Defence's mononymous globetrotting buyer, Schuster, has been sending snaps back from his trip to Addis Ababa, Ethiopia's ancient capital, filled with historic firearms.
    The old Ethiopian Empire fought several wars against Italy (in 1887–1889, 1895-1896, 1935-37), a cycle that was only broken after liberation in World War II. This left the country with not only stacks of guns both bought to fight off the Italians-- M1874 Gras rifles, Gewehr 71s and 88s, Remington Rolling Blocks, FN-made Mausers, British Lee-Enfields, Russian Berdan and Model 91/30 Mosin-Nagants-- but also those captured from the Italians including Vetterlis, and Carcanos of every stripe.

    Ethiopian rifles stacked up
    How many can you identify? (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)
    Ethiopian rifles stacked up
    At least Ethiopia has a dry climate (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)
    Ethiopian Lugers
    Lugers, anyone? (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)
    Ethiopian rifles
    For fans of .303 British (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)

    Moving into more modern times, the Imperial Ethiopian Army fought alongside U.S. forces in Korea, and as part of the UN effort in the Congo a decade later, armed with U.S-supplied M1 Carbines, M1 Garands, and M1911s. Therefore, it is no surprise that vintage American hardware is rusting away there.

    Ethiopian 1911s
    This...hurts. (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)
    Ethiopian Colt Python
    Some body please send this Python back home! (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)
    Ethiopian rifle, M14
    This M14, however, is un-importable except as a parts kit, which is even sadder. (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)

    After the communist Derg overthrew Emperor Haile Selassie in 1974, the country became an ally of Moscow and, fighting a 17-year civil war against folks not so inclined, was flooded with military aid from Soviet arsenals. That makes AKs, SKSs and the like common in the country.

    Ethiopian rifles stacked up
    Just goes to show, you can find almost anything in Ethiopian warehouses. (Photo: Zelený Sport Defence)

    With the Derg long ago consigned to the dustbin of history, a lot of that gear is now up for grabs as well. Even the 20-year-long war between Ethiopia and neighboring Eritrea calmed down in 2018, with the country seeing at least a degree of peace until the so-called Tigray War began last November, but even that seems to be winding down.
    For the past couple of years, the Ethiopians have been having a clearance sale on all this old military gear and, besides the Czechs, American importers have been getting in on the action-- as has been well chronicled by Gun Jesus-- so you can expect much of the above to be bought up and fed into the milsurp market in the near future.
    Bring it!
    Well, at least they can buy full auto AK's for a reasonable price. I know is a few European countries, they don't have the stupid NFA rules we have. A rifle is a rifle...


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