Re: Hammer and Sickle, gotta rant
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ch'e</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bowman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Spazz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Another point of view is that the guy wearing the shirt is uneducated about what's symbolized there, and likes the shirt. He figured maybe since he has a day off work, he'll wear a comfy t-shirt to the grocery store to pick up some pizza rolls and beer. A fourth option is that maybe he's actually educated on what the symbols mean and the ideology behind communism, and believes that in its ideal form it's a good idea. Maybe he likes the symbol's meaning about bringing together industry and agriculture.
Who freakin' knows? If he was intentionally making the statement that he disagrees with our form of government on the holiday we've set aside to celebrate our independence as a country, then yeah he's a jerk. Maybe he didn't even think about it (I know nobody here is guilty of doing something without thinking at the time) when he was getting dressed that morning. Not everything everybody does in today's society is meant to target someone or something. Why does everyone take everything so damn personally these days? I'm not a liberal commie atheist sucker, but I'm pretty sure someone reading this reply thinks I am. I'm just providing a different point of view, and I'm very thankful to live in a country that allows me to express that. The sooner we stop personalizing everything and seeing attacks where they don't exist, the sooner our collective blood pressure lowers and we can take charge of the way we live. I'd much rather do that than let my mood be dictated by factors I have no control over. </div></div>
Your post is awesome!! Well stated sir!!
I just wanted to add a few comments. I think it's absolutely okay for the op to disapprove of the t-shirt but Spazz is correct for advising in not taking the gesture as a personal attack.
People these days love to jump on the "cool" bandwagon. This t-shirt reminds me of the Che Guevara t-shirt fad. 99% of <span style="color: #CC0000">the people who sport those shirts have no idea who Che is or what he stood for. They just want to be apart of the "punk culture" in-crowd, without educating themselves or developing an original opinion.</span>
Addressing the people who state that wearing the t-shirt is an exercise of the 1st amendment....you are correct. Protesting the war at soldier's funerals is also an exercise of the 1st amendment....this right still doesn't absolve people of being total douche bags.
For further perspective, voicing ones disapproval of another's 1st amendment exercise is also covered by the 1st amendment. </div></div>what is it Bowman that you think he stood for and why given his background </div></div>
ok, I'll take this one then.
Che was an Argentinian Marxist who worshipped Revolution as though it were a god. He joined anti-Baptist communist forces in the Cuban Revolution and discredited, dishonored, or killed any pro-democratic revolutionaries in favor of a tyrannical dictatorship. He organized labor camps reminiscent of the Nazi work camps to segregate and execute gays, political dissidents, and anyone else he found less than desirable. He wrote extensively about martyrdom and encouraged hatred, violence, and murder. After getting stuffed in Africa trying to stir up revolution, he took his political ideals to Bolivia; where he was so popular he couldn't convince a single Bolivian to join in his class-struggle and got himself killed.
He was a brilliant man, a misguided brilliant man who is immortalized as some kind of communist Ghandi. How he got there doesn't really matter, He grew up poor and he didnt like the way the world worked, so did Carnegie, he didn't bother going out of his way to organize firing squads.
Heres the paddle I'll leave the canoe here.
