Hellfire suppressor advantage?
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Their brake attaches to their adapter. So you have to remove the brake from the adapter. Then remove the adapter from barrel, then thread on your direct thread can on mto the barrel. That’s 3 steps to get your can attached.
If you get the suppressor adapter, you remove one step from the equation and don’t need to carry a wrench.
If you get the suppressor adapter, you remove one step from the equation and don’t need to carry a wrench.
I guess it would depend on where you begin the investment. The attachment method for the 419 is badass. Attaching the brake onto a machine taper without tools is just a superb design. Easy to index, with no propensity to move when the knurled nut is tightened(like a an APA does). I don’t own a suppressor yet, but don’t most guys favor shouldering into to a taper (like TB’s 30cb brake) over direct thread these days?
Im moving to a suppressor state in a few months, an I’d like to go thunderbeast. I own several 30Cb equipped barrels already, but frankly the hellfire is a much better brake than the 30cb is imo, so i’ll be switching those to hellfires.
I think you might be missing my point, or I am misunderstanding you.
So two scenarios.
Let’s say I own an apa brake and a tbac direct thread. To swap from one to the other I have to take my apa brake off and put my direct thread can on. To swap back, I take my direct thread can off, and put my apa brake on re indexing on witness marks.
Let’s say I own a whole hellfire set up and a tbac Cb can. Is it not essentially the same ordeal?
Well regardless of how badass a taper lock is a taper lock adapter still has to be screwed onto a barrel via threads. In my opinion one point of attachment is less failure prone than two.
The point is very simple. If you are looking for an effective brake, the hellfire is superior to the TBAC. Area 419 made it possible for consumers to use their brake, but also have a convenient and relatively quick method of using multiple suppressors.
Did you read my posts?
The apa brake is equally effective and swapping between an apa brake and a direct thread can is just as simple.
I had an APA Little Bastard brake and direct thread suppressor previously (Sico Omega). I replaced the APA with the Area 419 Hellfire brake and intergral suppressor mount.
The APA brake was more difficult to time, required a wrench to tighten to the point where it wouldn't work itself loose, and just was generally more inconvenient. I greatly prefer the Area 419 system, so much easier to pull the brake off with no tools, it times perfectly and holds exactly where you set it when you are tightening it down.
Solid thumbs up for the Area 419, I'm extremely pleased with it.
The APA brake was more difficult to time, required a wrench to tighten to the point where it wouldn't work itself loose, and just was generally more inconvenient. I greatly prefer the Area 419 system, so much easier to pull the brake off with no tools, it times perfectly and holds exactly where you set it when you are tightening it down.
Solid thumbs up for the Area 419, I'm extremely pleased with it.
It’s called preferences. I have both and prefer the area 419.... but that’s my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own and decide what they prefer. I can locctite the adaptor on and switch between brake and suppressor quickly without worry of it unthreading.
I am asking for reasoning of preference and you telling “it’s called preferences”... thanks for the profound answer...
Your apa is coming loose? Hm. I’m shooting mine hand tight and haven’t had an issue but your experience gives me concern. In your opinion is the method of attachment on the hellfire much more reliable at hand tightness vs the apa at hand tightness?
When only hand tight, I've seen my APA come loose. It needed a bump with a wrench to stay secure. But when I bump it tight with a wrench it wants to rotate so that I had to "pre-stage" the brake slightly off kilter so that it was straight once tightened. Then if you have a cerakoted brake the wrench eventually mars the jam nut. Basically it made swapping between brake and can more of an ordeal than I found convenient. With the Area 419 it's the opposite, you can give the brake a bump with your hand square on the muzzle end and it locks into position then doesn't move at all when tightening. It's so easy to get on/off that I pull it off every time I run a patch through the barrel or clean the rifle. The suppressor mount works great too, repeatable zero, easy on/off. I've never had the brake or the can come loose on me, have run both variations in many PRS matches the past couple years.
I still have an APA LB on my 7mm barrel, but prefer the Area 419 of the two systems.
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