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Home security strategy for the ball-less

How about several Big dogs and a whole lot of firepower at the ready.
Dogs take care of clearing the area and leading you to the bad guys where upon you take care of business with some decent firepower.
 
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3. Unless you are a trained professional, don't grab a weapon. This includes firearms, baseball bats and pepper spray. They all sound like a good idea, but again, we don't know how the burglar will react to seeing an armed person.

What a crock of shit!
Who cares how the burglar will react when seeing your weapon?
How he will react with a few supersonic rounds going through his sternum is much more important.
 
Sucks to be a home invader in my state:

2901.05 Burden of proof - reasonable doubt - self-defense
(B)(1) Subject to division (B)(2) of this section, a person is presumed to have acted in self defense or defense of another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if the person against whom the defensive force is used is in the process of unlawfully and without privilege to do so entering, or has unlawfully and without privilege to do so entered, the residence or vehicle occupied by the person using the defensive force.

And

2901.09 No duty to retreat in residence or vehicle.
(A) As used in this section, "residence" and "vehicle" have the same meanings as in section 2901.05 of the Revised Code.
(B) For purposes of any section of the Revised Code that sets forth a criminal offense, a person who lawfully is in that person's residence has no duty to retreat before using force in self-defense, defense of another, or defense of that person's residence, and a person who lawfully is an occupant of that person's vehicle or who lawfully is an occupant in a vehicle owned by an immediate family member of the person has no duty to retreat before using force in self-defense or defense of another.
 
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Sucks to be a home invader in my state:

2901.05 Burden of proof - reasonable doubt - self-defense
(B)(1) Subject to division (B)(2) of this section, a person is presumed to have acted in self defense or defense of another when using defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if the person against whom the defensive force is used is in the process of unlawfully and without privilege to do so entering, or has unlawfully and without privilege to do so entered, the residence or vehicle occupied by the person using the defensive force.

And

2901.09 No duty to retreat in residence or vehicle.
(A) As used in this section, "residence" and "vehicle" have the same meanings as in section 2901.05 of the Revised Code.
(B) For purposes of any section of the Revised Code that sets forth a criminal offense, a person who lawfully is in that person's residence has no duty to retreat before using force in self-defense, defense of another, or defense of that person's residence, and a person who lawfully is an occupant of that person's vehicle or who lawfully is an occupant in a vehicle owned by an immediate family member of the person has no duty to retreat before using force in self-defense or defense of another.

Sounds like a "Stand your ground" law.
I like it!
 
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I actually use this alarm service and have sent them a colorful email. Their service and equipment is actually good but this advice is retarded. I told them to stop providing bad advice to their customers but I think it will go unheard due to the number of times I said...."are you fucking kidding me".

We have a triad at home. A 65lb pit bull and a lab. They are both fiercely protective but the major thing they provide is time. No one can enter the property without them barking their head off. The alarm is always on when we are sleeping which is the 2nd line of defense. The third line is the firepower. Family knows what to do if the alarm goes off. More importantly, I know what to do if the alarm goes off.
 
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The burglar won't have time to see my weapon. He might see a muzzle flash before it all goes dark tho.....


You're not using a can? You're going to disorient yourself and have permanent hearing loss.

The steps are:
1) Shoot the bad guy(s), make sure none get away. Were they in a vehicle?
2) See how big a mess it made, determine if the neighbors heard/saw anything,
3) How many hours until sun up?
4) If possible, proceed to closest bottomless mine shaft while wife mops up.
5) If not, call 911.
 
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The burglar won't have time to see my weapon. He might see a muzzle flash before it all goes dark tho.....
Smile , wait for flash . And to the other dog owners , Amen . A dog is the best burglar alarm you can have . They go off before the shit is coming thru your window . I can tell the subtle differences in my Chocolate Lab's barking . One is I know you're there . Another is Im1 right here motherfucker . You hear me ? And the last is I'm gonna eat you and shit you the fuck out . It is actually cool to watch her do her thing .
One night around 12:30 am she goes full retard and is not coming down . So I grab my .45 and go to her commotion at the front door . For what it's worth . between the dog and the .45 my confidemce level was notably high . I was actually aware of it opening the door . Nada . Whatever pissed her off moved on .
 
They don’t even need to be in the house in my state. If they have a screwdriver to the window, trying to pry it open, we can shoot them through the window. We don’t even need to drag them inside.
Same in mine. The magic words "in the process of entering" are right in the codes I copied.
 
Since I’m now in a free state.... I just acquired a new home protection plan....

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Anyone who advocates running and hiding from your own home is a pussy and a fucking moron
 
A trusted friend who owns a company installed our alarm, but I mounted all the contact points after he was gone. I wanted to make sure no one but me knows their locations and they're all different. All exterior doors and all windows on both levels and when one is separated, the alarm voice calls out which one it is and its loud enough to be heard in every room. So if the pitbull doesn't start losing his mind at a disturbance, that'll be indicator 1. Whoa be unto the ass that actually makes entry. Dog will get to them before I do, but I wont be far behind.

I've got gear staged at strategic locations through the house and my girls know where to go and what to do. I fortified a designated area for them and keep a prepaid phone on a charger in there so they don't have to try to remember to grab a phone when it touches off. My house is a burglars worst nightmare. No one knows the angles and inches of my home like I do.

Just a note for those of you that put some faith in alarm systems... I've responded to hundreds and hundreds of burglaries in my career and one of the first questions I ask while I'm on the way is "what's the turnaround time from the alarm companies time of alert to the call to law enforcement?" It would piss you off to know how much I hear 10 to 15 minutes. And that's been across the board as far as companies, commercial and residential. I don't think it's a bad idea to have one, but it's not going to be your saving grace in any case.

I'm sure I'll sound paranoid to some, but I've seen up close what it looks like for those that lay down and choose to be a victim. That will not be me or my family.
 
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A trusted friend who owns a company installed our alarm, but I mounted all the contact points after he was gone. I wanted to make sure no one but me knows their locations and they're all different. All exterior doors and all windows on both levels and when one is separated, the alarm voice calls out which one it is and its loud enough to be heard in every room. So if the pitbull doesn't start losing his mind at a disturbance, that'll be indicator 1. Whoa be unto the ass that actually makes entry. Dog will get to them before I do, but I wont be far behind.

I've got gear staged at strategic locations through the house and my girls know where to go and what to do. I fortified a designated area for them and keep a prepaid phone on a charger in there so they don't have to try to remember to grab a phone when it touches off. My house is a burglars worst nightmare. No one knows the angles and inches of my home like I do.

Just a note for those of you that put some faith in alarm systems... I've responded to hundreds and hundreds of burglaries in my career and one of the first questions I ask while I'm on the way is "what's the turnaround time from the alarm companies time of alert to the call to law enforcement?" It would piss you off to know how much I hear 10 to 15 minutes. And that's been across the board as far as companies, commercial and residential. I don't think it's a bad idea to have one, but it's not going to be your saving grace in any case.

I'm sure I'll sound paranoid to some, but I've seen up close what it looks like for those that lay down and choose to be a victim. That will not be me or my family.
Nothing sounds paranoid . Had a neighbor out on parole who was starting shit at every turn . At one point genius boy engages me in an argument . Fuck stick starts screaming that " you and your family are gonna be real fuckin sorry . I'll burn your fuckin house down . " Caused such a ruckus neighbors called the police . This guy ran with some shitbags and I not only didn't take his threat lightly , I had no intention of allowing any as in zero bullshit . I slept with my .45 for a month . Atriker fired so I
would squeeze it on a snap cap to sit that way on my hip overnight . Between the dog and the 45 I figured if Dopey , Slimy , Stupid and Dick showed up I'd get a chance to see how high you could stack shit . Local police refused to take him even though he was on parole . I fugured between the neighbors calling , the incident report and the lack of response from local Police I was teflon if I had to defend my family .
 
Just a note for those of you that put some faith in alarm systems... I've responded to hundreds and hundreds of burglaries in my career and one of the first questions I ask while I'm on the way is "what's the turnaround time from the alarm companies time of alert to the call to law enforcement?" It would piss you off to know how much I hear 10 to 15 minutes. And that's been across the board as far as companies, commercial and residential. I don't think it's a bad idea to have one, but it's not going to be your saving grace in any case.

I'm sure I'll sound paranoid to some, but I've seen up close what it looks like for those that lay down and choose to be a victim. That will not be me or my family.

I've installed thousands and worked on thousands more. Alarms were my thing before the army and for a little while after. When the alarm goes off, it contacts the monitoring station right away and sends a burst transmission of all the data really fast and it pops up on the screen of an operator, flashing, and click on it. All they have to do is click on the numbers to start down the customer's call list. If you get no answer or no password from the home owner, next thing to do is click on the police and dispatch. I worked in a monitoring station too for a few months when I started university.

I can see ten to fifteen minutes with some of the fuckups and larger entities even, but the ones that are wired tight don't do this, they're pretty fast. We monitored our own alarms at the last place I worked and depending on the type of alarm, we'd either dispatch right away or try calling the customer first. Depends on the code. If an alarm comes in and other operators aren't busy, then they'd pull up the same screen and work from it simultaneously to speed things up. Basically, if we don't get the password from the first number or two they give us, depending, the rest of the list is just to meet the police there.

So a good alarm installed PROPERLY (and this takes either money and time, or if you're skilled enough, you can do most or all of it). All the entry points, doors, windows, ideally need to be contacted. Motions in all the rooms and halls. 30watt siren outside or tucked in above the soffet. I like a siren and strobe in a steel box mounted high up on the side of tallest part of the roof. All this hardwired if possible, or as much as possible, with four conductor wire ran to all the 2 conductor switches. An additional 2 conductor wire ran to all the motion detectors and keypads and sirens. Those get spliced in series at the panel and form a tamper along all the wires. Smoke detectors will reduce your homeowner's insurance by as much as 15% or maybe more, put one in each room and hallway. Stickers, signs.

Motion lights are great. Get some for all around. If you can install fence beams, you can tell if anyone is coming up a long driveway. Or proximity sensors buried under the driveway or next to it.

Cameras outside, some inside, these you can maybe get from Costco if they still sell a quality setup like a Sony. Hide 'em, but let one or two show for a deterrent. Secure the recorder.

RFID tags. This is new but hopefully catching on. Basically you buy these tags and hide them and install them in valuables. All around the house. Then if anything is stolen and it passes within range of a computer or phone that has the application, it logs the GPS coordinates and alerts. It's been around a few years but I don't know how well it's caught on. If it does, it'll make theft almost impossible. The other option to this is to get active transmitters that go hot when they cross the threshold of the house or leave the property. They cost more of course so you'll only be installing a few as opposed to 50 RFID tags.

Vaults/safes. Go to a safe superstore or like a Costco for safes. Every city should have one I'd imagine, look around. They sell all sorts including scratch and dents. Forget the gunsafe, get the scratch/dent, and talk him down, on the biggest TL30X6 jewelry vault they have. They'll hold up against fire better and for longer and are practically impregnable. These are the safes they recommend jewelry stores to use, though they're seldom the big ones. Most stores still have the older TL30 or TL15 safes and are turning 'em in for the X6's for insurance. If you can get the TL30X6 that will suit you, get a used TL30 or TL15. Still better than a gun safe. Shoot for dual locks if you can, a combo and a key. Get the big one, then if you need another later, bide your time and find the right one for the right price on CL or at the superstore. Good for smaller things, pistols, SBR's, parts, etc. Or ammo.

Dogs are great for pets and make good friends but don't rely on them for security. You don't want your dog getting killed. Now if he give off the special bark that someone's there, well, check it out. "Fuck the dog, beware the owner" applies here.

I don't know, those are always my recommendations. And of course your firearm but that's not mentioned because here it's a given and up to the individual. I like to keep my 340PD on the table next to me, it goes everywhere, and the G27 in VM2 rig when I'm carrying the pistol, and my trusty .300BLK SBR and suppressor.
 
To all the folks with dogs: I hope your dog barks to wake you or to out the brakes on a potential intruder, but i feel safe saying that 95% of these dogs aren't going to do shit but bark. We've had people call us and want us to do a mock break in to see if their dog would protect in that situation.. Almost none would even come 5ft from me much less put teeth on me. GSDs, mals, Rottweilers, pitbulls, mastiffs, you name it, ive ran them out of their own houses. Unless you have a trained and tested/proven dog, barking is the best assistance a dog is going to give u. Even trained dogs sometimes let u down bc they might not have you present for them to know it's ok for them to act. Most of the dogs that WILL act on their own are dogs that might act when it isn't appropriate, i.e. an accident with a non threat. It's just the way it is. Best alert dogs.... tiny house dogs. They don't miss shit.
 
To all the folks with dogs: I hope your dog barks to wake you or to out the brakes on a potential intruder, but i feel safe saying that 95% of these dogs aren't going to do shit but bark. We've had people call us and want us to do a mock break in to see if their dog would protect in that situation.. Almost none would even come 5ft from me much less put teeth on me. GSDs, mals, Rottweilers, pitbulls, mastiffs, you name it, ive ran them out of their own houses. Unless you have a trained and tested/proven dog, barking is the best assistance a dog is going to give u. Even trained dogs sometimes let u down bc they might not have you present for them to know it's ok for them to act. Most of the dogs that WILL act on their own are dogs that might act when it isn't appropriate, i.e. an accident with a non threat. It's just the way it is. Best alert dogs.... tiny house dogs. They don't miss shit.

I don't need my dogs to fight for me, but they let me know anytime something might be coming and are able to quickly pull me out of a sound sleep to come alert to danger, that's all I ask of them. Anything else is a plus.

I live in a suburban neighborhood so I can't have dogs that will attack strangers automatically as then I couldn't walk them & couldn't have people over.

That being said, the Male has shown that if he thinks somebody is bad he won't hesitate to jump up and bark in their face. But if the dogs don't feel threatened, they will just go smell the stranger. So while I plan to do any fighting that needs to be done, there is a good chance I get an assist, or at least there is something else to keep an intruders attention from being solely focused on me.