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Foul Mike

Foul Mike

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What is the answer to all of these "Homeless Bums" that if offered work laugh at you? Hold out your sign, Will Work for FOOD, yada.

I think something like the CCC Camps from the 30s or WPA and open up HUGE Hospitals to house the worst of them.

BIG camping areas with latrines and a dumpster at the end and a SGT Billy Badass, to run it.

Able Bodied show out for morning formation and go to work. Fail to do that? No problem, At 08:00 in the morning, We load your shit up and take it to the dump, meanwhile, "you don't want to work?" then follow your shit out to the dump and stay there.?.

Sure is a BIG problem everywhere. FM

Gonna be some bad germs and cooties and all kinds of shit, and pestilence coming from people shitting here there and everywhere. FM

Typhus and plague taught us that years ago. NoBody remembers? Build HUGE Nut Bins and fill them up. Work for the rest.
 
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Put them in the queue for the trebuchet that's to be built to return illegals south of the border. They don't want to contribute here? Who needs them?!? Feel free to help a bunch of the worst over the wall around Pelosi's compound, too.
 
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Couldn't agree more, SF is pushing a bill now to round them up and attempt to get the addicts and mentally ill some help.
It's allready being challenged as a violations of thier rights.
I personally feel like if you are living and acting less dignified than a wild animal you have allready forfeited your human rights and are of the caliber that need to be told what to do, were to shit and when to to it.
 
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Met two people on the highway that had been travelling together for years.

They just travel around the country camping ad taking jobs as necessary to earn money to supplement their SSDI.

I asked how they got their checks and they said they would notify .gov where they would be and when than pick up their cash at post office X.

Kid told me he had been to all 50 states.

Had a Bench Made Bush knife on him and a half decent back pack to support him in his chosen career.

Not bad huh? We are good to pay for it.
 
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The problem is people that say...

"Nobody wants to be homeless...."

Yes some people do. They are modern hermits often with mental health issues.

@Maggot sent me this yesterday, seems appropriate.......


THE MEN WHO DON’T FIT IN by Robert Service (1874-1958)
menwhodont


THE MEN WHO DON’T FIT IN
by Robert Service (1874-1958)
There’s a race of men that don’t fit in,
A race that can’t stay still;
So they break the hearts of kith and kin,
And they roam the world at will.
They range the field and they rove the flood,
And they climb the mountain’s crest;
Theirs is the curse of the gypsy blood,
And they don’t know how to rest.
If they just went straight they might go far;
They are strong and brave and true;
But they’re always tired of the things that are,
And they want the strange and new.
They say: “Could I find my proper groove,
What a deep mark I would make!”
So they chop and change, and each fresh move
Is only a fresh mistake.
And each forgets, as he strips and runs
With a brilliant, fitful pace,
It’s the steady, quiet, plodding ones
Who win in the lifelong race.
And each forgets that his youth has fled,
Forgets that his prime is past,
Till he stands one day, with a hope that’s dead,
In the glare of the truth at last.
He has failed, he has failed; he has missed his chance;
He has just done things by half.
Life’s been a jolly good joke on him,
And now is the time to laugh.
Ha, ha! He is one of the Legion Lost;
He was never meant to win;
He’s a rolling stone, and it’s bred in the bone;
He’s a man who won’t fit in.
;)
 
I'm in a small Montana town. Watched a vehicle stay overnight in a vacant, wooded lot for a month. When the weather warmed up, a tent showed up. It was neat for a while and then the garbage started to build up.... Next, a second tent showed up. Two days after that second tent showed up........ Area is cleaned up and there are NO homeless camping there.

That should be the SOP across America.... When the second tent shows up they are escorted out of town.

Hobo
 
Here in San Jose we have a YUUGE homeless problem.

Bottom line is the City/County/ State make it waaaaay to EASY to be homeless.
They are basically societies 40yr old kids that won't leave the house and get a job because mom and dad keep supporting them.

Free Phone
Free Food
Free money
Free housing if they want it.
Crime forgiveness.
Free healthcare.

And the weather is great year around.
 
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Something to consider.
When local government passes laws that draw more of the same:
Safe to shoot up sites, with free needles.
Anything standout about this map?
7090027

Another:
7090028

As one peruses these maps do these examples coincide with where much of the homeless
problems occur?
Many more angles in this diccussion but they'll all lead to similar locales.

R
 
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Foul Mike said:
What is the answer to all of these "Homeless Bums" that if offered work laugh at you? Hold out your sign, Will Work for FOOD, yada.

I think something like the CCC Camps from the 30s or WPA and open up HUGE Hospitals to house the worst of them.

BIG camping areas with latrines and a dumpster at the end and a SGT Billy Badass, to run it.

Able Bodied show out for morning formation and go to work. Fail to do that? No problem, At 08:00 in the morning, We load your shit up and take it to the dump, meanwhile, "you don't want to work?" then follow your shit out to the dump and stay there.?.

Sure is a BIG problem everywhere. FM

Gonna be some bad germs and cooties and all kinds of shit, and pestilence coming from people shitting here there and everywhere. FM

Typhus and plague taught us that years ago. NoBody remembers? Build HUGE Nut Bins and fill them up. Work for the rest.
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Thats essentially what Ive been saying for years, and it should include all on welfare who wont or dont work.

Some, a small minority, are innocent victims of lost jobs and retirement funds (courtesy of our banking system and dirty politicians.) Some are trapped in the urban ghettos and really have little way out. Many are emotionally ill (as opposed to mentally ill, and there is a difference). Some are just dirtballs too sorry to work and have learned to play the system.

In my mind, compassion needs to be in place for the first three. In int total agreement with CCC/WPA projects for the ones who lost it and are sincerely trying and the ones from the ghettos. Housing (nothing fancy, food, a small stipend for necessities, with the rest going into a fund for when they are ready to leave, but most important, perhaps, education/vocational training so they dont fall back.

For those actually to emotionally ill to really care for themselves, something similar but more permanent, with a structured work environment and work they can do.

For the ones who just refuse to work, cut them very little corner. No free shit, no camping in the cities, and if you dont want to work, fucking starve and your body parts harvested to pay for your clean up.


@pmclaine

Ive met similar and worse.

I was having coffee (at the little coffee shop where I first met Sirh in Charlottesville) one afternoon. This young(er) fellow starts up a conversation. Seems he and his whole family are 'traveling' like the ones you met. He gets comfortable and starts telling me about how he just left (Mass? or Conn?) and was headed for Seattle because the handouts were easier. Just like your guy he had been in most every state. His whole family including the kids were panhandlers and beggars. Pretty soon I caught his drift and started to get up and move away so I wouldnt say something ugly. Before I could get up he sticks out his hand and says "Got any spare change?" That pushed me too far and I just unloaded quite loudly with "I dont feed fucking parasites, get a goddamn job." He started to cry and I drew a lot of dirty looks from around the coffee shop. Fuck that shit, take his children, get them good foster care, and let him and the wife starve.

As to the poem, I think we read it with different perspective. Yes, some have emotional illness, but some, no matter how hard they work and try, just seem to fail. Why? Who knows. Not all are blessed with success in their endeavors.
 
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2aBaCa said:
Here in San Jose we have a YUUGE homeless problem.

Bottom line is the City/County/ State make it waaaaay to EASY to be homeless.
They are basically societies 40yr old kids that won't leave the house and get a job because mom and dad keep supporting them.

Free Phone
Free Food
Free money
Free housing if they want it.
Crime forgiveness.
Free healthcare.

And the weather is great year around.
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Has to be a state thing. I moved back to Bakersfield a couple years ago and live a mile away from where I spent some time as a teen and went to HS at. Nice, newer homes at the edge of town and just borders dirt, more dirt, and some fields and orchards. When I came back the homeless problem was terrible, more so than I ever saw growing up and now it's spread into the nicer areas. I've seen homeless trolling through my neighborhood, sleeping on bus benches in the area, and now in a park that's in between an Elementary and Middle School down the street.

A lot of it is trash flowing up from Socal and the massive heroin and trafficking problem that's been going on in Kern and the Central Valley and seems to just be adding more fuel to the flame. Our homeless problem has even doubled compared to last year but the city isn't doing shit about it.
 
So here's the thing. I have a brother who is mentally disabled. He is living now in state assisted living and is doing pretty well. However, I would be quite happy to have the state stop funding all services for him if they stopped taxing me at 30%. I could pay for him to live pretty well on that and not have to have the govt fund anything.

Stop coddling laziness. Stop taxing people to death. Allow the American people to fund the care for these mentally ill folks privately.
 
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XLR308 said:
Couldn't agree more, SF is pushing a bill now to round them up and attempt to get the addicts and mentally ill some help.
It's allready being challenged as a violations of thier rights.
I personally feel like if you are living and acting less dignified than a wild animal you have allready forfeited your human rights and are of the caliber that need to be told what to do, were to shit and when to to it.
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What Pelosi and the other do gooders will find is that you can't have it both ways. Trying to round them up to help them is nothing but a ruse. They don't want bums, hobos and druggies shitting in front of their million dollar places of residence. However, they opened a pandora's box with their all inclusiveness initiatives. Now all of the real do gooders want to help the poor wretched souls.

I am laughing my ass off. Thankfully, I live in a small town and we don't have these issues.
 
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Got stuck in Medford, OR on a project a few years ago (or Methford as some called it). Homeless everywhere (but even worse in downtown Portland on the first [=last] trip I made to Portland. Learned immediately to check food in grocery store to make sure it hadn't already been opened/eaten out of. Strangest thing I saw was a dude pushing his stolen shopping cart down the street with an 8' plastic tree in it. Guess he liked the shade.
 
Maggot said:
Thats essentially what Ive been saying for years, and it should include all on welfare who wont or dont work.

Some, a small minority, are innocent victims of lost jobs and retirement funds (courtesy of our banking system and dirty politicians.) Some are trapped in the urban ghettos and really have little way out. Many are emotionally ill (as opposed to mentally ill, and there is a difference). Some are just dirtballs too sorry to work and have learned to play the system.

In my mind, compassion needs to be in place for the first three. In int total agreement with CCC/WPA projects for the ones who lost it and are sincerely trying and the ones from the ghettos. Housing (nothing fancy, food, a small stipend for necessities, with the rest going into a fund for when they are ready to leave, but most important, perhaps, education/vocational training so they dont fall back.

For those actually to emotionally ill to really care for themselves, something similar but more permanent, with a structured work environment and work they can do.

For the ones who just refuse to work, cut them very little corner. No free shit, no camping in the cities, and if you dont want to work, fucking starve and your body parts harvested to pay for your clean up.


@pmclaine

Ive met similar and worse.

I was having coffee (at the little coffee shop where I first met Sirh in Charlottesville) one afternoon. This young(er) fellow starts up a conversation. Seems he and his whole family are 'traveling' like the ones you met. He gets comfortable and starts telling me about how he just left (Mass? or Conn?) and was headed for Seattle because the handouts were easier. Just like your guy he had been in most every state. His whole family including the kids were panhandlers and beggars. Pretty soon I caught his drift and started to get up and move away so I wouldnt say something ugly. Before I could get up he sticks out his hand and says "Got any spare change?" That pushed me too far and I just unloaded quite loudly with "I dont feed fucking parasites, get a goddamn job." He started to cry and I drew a lot of dirty looks from around the coffee shop. Fuck that shit, take his children, get them good foster care, and let him and the wife starve.

As to the poem, I think we read it with different perspective. Yes, some have emotional illness, but some, no matter how hard they work and try, just seem to fail. Why? Who knows. Not all are blessed with success in their endeavors.
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I read the poem as the dreamy adventurer always looking for his gold.

Traveling where the wind will bring him to find his fortune, never content to settle down.

Not a dumb person, on the contrary, nor a disturbed person, just someone that has the urge to drift and see new places take on what life brings.

But in the end he understands he never found what he was looking for and realizes that perhaps his life was not well spent as he never built anything lasting.

Lots of peeps in the early twentieth lived that way.
 
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pmclaine said:
I read the poem as the dreamy adventurer always looking for his gold.

Traveling where the wind will bring him to find his fortune, never content to settle down.

Not a dumb person, on the contrary, nor a disturbed person, just someone that has the urge to drift and see new places take on what life brings.

But in the end he understands he never found what he was looking for and realizes that perhaps his life was not well spent as he never built anything lasting.

Lots of peeps in the early twentieth lived that way.
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I think that many of them 'tried' to build something lasting but Fate was at least unkind.

But then, what is lasting? Of this world, all is temporal.

Friendships, perhaps more than family, might qualify.
 
Foul Mike said:
What is the answer to all of these "Homeless Bums" that if offered work laugh at you? Hold out your sign, Will Work for FOOD, yada.

I think something like the CCC Camps from the 30s or WPA and open up HUGE Hospitals to house the worst of them.

BIG camping areas with latrines and a dumpster at the end and a SGT Billy Badass, to run it.

Able Bodied show out for morning formation and go to work. Fail to do that? No problem, At 08:00 in the morning, We load your shit up and take it to the dump, meanwhile, "you don't want to work?" then follow your shit out to the dump and stay there.?.

Sure is a BIG problem everywhere. FM

Gonna be some bad germs and cooties and all kinds of shit, and pestilence coming from people shitting here there and everywhere. FM

Typhus and plague taught us that years ago. NoBody remembers? Build HUGE Nut Bins and fill them up. Work for the rest.
Click to expand...
Too many people dropping and walking these days!
 
They dont want to earn a wage. They want free shit, no responsibility, and no rules.

How many do you see in front of Home Depot asking for day labor work?

How many homeless mexicans do you see begginf for change?
 
Cut the free shit, use the money for mental hospitals, make them work for a decent wage. Supply and demand, right now you have cheap Mexican slaves doing a lot of work our poor should be doing and making a decent wage at doing, on top of that we are paying for the spawn of the slaves to get medical and educated at the expense of our own poor.

Dont come with that bullshit argument, I am pretty good, actually really really good at economics and will take your ignorant repeating of a stupid argument apart, in a friendly and courteous manner of course.
 
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I guess it depends on where you live? All I see is mexicans begging for change where I live. Perhaps its the 93% hispanic population, i guess that is the case? I seriously agree with AJ's point here, most of the USA problems are due to the illegals pouring into our country. Wages, real estate, taxes, infrastructure dilapidation is all the cause of open borders.
 
Thats only because you are looking for and finding correlation where there is none. WY, NE, GA, TN

Colorado legalized marijuana in 2014

South Park made an episode called "Night of the Living Homeless." It aired in 2007 highlighting the homeless flocking to Colorado, and jokingly saying we need to ship them to Cali in a jaunty tune. There is no correlation between legal marijuana and our homeless problem. It was happening long before legalization.
 
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Thats only because you are looking for and finding correlation where there is none. WY, NE, GA, TN

Colorado legalized marijuana in 2014

South Park made an episode called "Night of the Living Homeless." It aired in 2007 highlighting the homeless flocking to Colorado, and jokingly saying we need to ship them to Cali in a jaunty tune. There is no correlation between legal marijuana and our homeless problem. It was happening long before legalization.
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It is but a part of the reason.
Can you see a pattern that coincides with the others with this one:
7090410

This is a map of the concentration of homeless:

7090411



R
 
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What it is, is a sad commentary on the state of our nation.

Im personally in favor of legalization of cannabis on principle but I certainly can see a 'correlation'. All the parasites want ot be where they can get handouts and the best handouts seem to come where its legal.

Id love to move to SoCal for the climate and the ocean BUT......
 
Most of the homeless want to be homeless. They will stand in front of a business with help wanted signs posted and beg for money. The problem is, folks give them money.
 
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fdkay said:
Most of the homeless want to be homeless. They will stand in front of a business with help wanted signs posted and beg for money. The problem is, folks give them money.
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Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding!!!!!!! We have a WINNER.

This is exactly the problem. There needs to be more incentive to "Not Be Homeless" as well as more initiative for 'the general populace' to "stop feeding the animals" because they breed and they vote.
 
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And ALL of their Crotch Fruit moves on to become Homeless somewhere else.
They know nothing else. Need education and HUGE Mental Health Centers everywhere.
This shit is almost to become pandemic.
We need plans on board other than FREE SHIT and Obama phones for ALL.
 
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Local Home Depot always has a queue of certain people around the parking lot available as day labor. There’s another certain type of people sat just outside the same parking lot (100’ away?) begging for money.

It does occasionally change my feelings about the border problem (which is very real) when I want to swap one body for another.
 
In have worked in North Kansas City for 10 years at the same facility.

There is a gentleman, wearing US Army Camo.........that has set on the same corner for at least 3 years..........probably more..............directly across the street from a company called MARS......makes a product called Greenes.............They always have a sign stating.............Hiring............................begging is easier than working............
 
Like i said they need to make it harder to be useless.

Make it harder to be homeless than it would be to get a job and support yourself.

A database of homeless.
A facility to assess and process instead of jail.
Make camping in random places illegal.
citations for illegal camps, human waste, or other crimes land you in a facility or rehab center.
 
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2aBaCa said:
Like i said they need to make it harder to be useless.

Make it harder to be homeless than it would be to get a job and support yourself.

A database of homeless.
A facility to assess and process instead of jail.
Make camping in random places illegal.
citations for illegal camps, human waste, or other crimes land you in a facility or rehab center.
Click to expand...
 
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The Denver media calls these people “urban campers”.

I think we should all go to the local McDonald’s and get a stack of applications. Take them home and print a $20 bill on the back of them. Fold them up so they look like a stack of bills, and hand them out to everyone hanging out at the street corner.

People actually wanting to be wastes of human flesh... jeez.
 
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I live in a small town in East Texas, and we have four homeless people. We know who they are, and we take care of them. They were born and raised here. Whenever any new panhandlers show up, they are escorted out of town.

We traveled to Colorado last year, and it was many years since I was there. I couldn't believe the panhandlers. And, everywhere there was a pot shop, you had panhandlers within walking distance. It wasn't hard to make the connection. Legalizing pot has created a whole new class of panhandler.
 
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