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12 years ago I was trying to get a 1" group, but could only get 5" groups at 100 yards.
I was using 168 gr Sierra Match Kings in carefully made handloads for 308.

If only the Hornady AMP bullets had been available then, I could have been getting 4.999" groups.
 
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If you are shooting 5" groups at 100 yards you have bigger problems than bullet selection.
 
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I bought some of the Superperformance Match ammo. I haven't shot it yet, but I pulled the cartridges out to uniform the meplats and found that they were so uniform, it was a waste of time. Add in high jacket concentricity and this might be a winner.

Too bad I just bought 600 185gr LRBT Bergers.
 
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I like the BC of the 178gr but i wouldn't want that extra 3grains of weight for my .308. Still its good to add another set of good high BC match bullets to the lineup. Will want to try some 105gr in a .243. I wonder if they'll incorporate the G7 BCs on the boxes?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">If you are shooting 5" groups at 100 yards you have bigger problems than bullet selection. </div></div>

Ya
 
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I hope the larger caliber Match bullets shoot better than the .224 did. 3-4 years ago, the .224 shot great in my 22-250, but I sold that and now have a 223 XR100. The new .224 match bullets I purchased had horrible meplats and over all shot piss poor. I switched to Bergers and they shoot great. Groups size was half of the Horn-daddy Match bullets.

I will give the 7mm and the 308 a shot when I get around to it. I like Horn-daddy products.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blackops_2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like the BC of the 178gr but i wouldn't want that extra 3grains of weight for my .308. </div></div>

Really? You will not notice the difference at 1k between the two weights. However, you will notice the difference in bc, since the 178 is touted at .530 (or close to that). The higher bc will make a difference while the 3 gr will go unnoticed.
 
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True i guess it's just the idea of more weight that makes me think i don't want it, 175gr is already pretty heavy for the .308 to me. I know people like 190SMKs and so on but my limit for .308 stops around 175. Although the bullet i'm shooting right now has a BC of .515. I might try some down the road though. Right now i'm liking the bergers though.
 
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Black Ops, check out this article by Bryan Litz. It will make you rethink heavy in a 308. Truthfully, 175 gr is light when you look at what the dimensions of the projectile should be.

In FTR, there are a lot of people shooting 155 grainers, but there has been a movement towards heavier projectiles to get to 1,000 yards with enough retained velocity.

On the other hand, if you are trying to get to 1,000, there are better cartridges out there. For Palma and F-class, it is all that is allowed, so the movement to heavier projectiles is warranted.

The 155's are odd-balls in that they are extremely long for their weight. That is why they are in such wide usage. You can push them fast and their BC is high-ish.

Laurie Holland did a great article in the June 2010? issue of "Target Shooter Magazine." It had the following table, where low is low drag, medium is medium drag, and high is high drag:

Low
Hornady 208gn A-Max (0.967)
Berger 185gn BT L-R (0.972)
Berger 210gn VLD (0.979)
Berger 190gn VLD (0.982)
Berger 155.5gn BT FB (0.988)
Berger 210gn BT L-R (0.988)
Lapua 155gn Scenar (0.988)
Berger 185gn VLD (0.993)
Berger 175gn BT L-R (0.999)
Sierra 210gn MK (1.000)
New Sierra 155gn MK (1.018)


Medium
Berger 175gn VLD (1.035)
Berger 155gn VLD (1.047)
Berger 168gn VLD (1.047)
Sierra 200gn MK (1.058)
Sierra 190gn MK (1.061)
Sierra 220gn MK (1.068)
Lapua 185gn D46 FMJBT (1.081)
Sierra 175gn MK (1.084)
Old Sierra 155gn MK (1.092)
Sierra 240gn MK (1.092)


High
Berger 168gn BT (1.096)
*Sierra 180gn MK (1.099)
*Hornady 155gn A-Max (1.100)
*Hornady 168gn A-Max (1.101)
*Hornady 178gn A-Max (1.118)
Lapua 185gn Scenar (1.130)
*Hornady 168gn Match (1.143)
*Nosler 168gn CC (1.159)
*Sierra 168gn MK (1.161)
Lapua 167gn Scenar (1.163)

I was surprised to see the 175gr SMK in the middle category. I think it is popular because it goes transonic well, but at low temps at sea level, it is tough to keep it comfortably above transonic. For mountain dwellers, that is never really an issue.
 
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Will do reading now. The only thing i regret about already finding a load with the bergers is the 178gr Hornadys are 9 $ cheaper and have a .015 higher BC. Comparing them in JBM the 178gr run @ 2619 (same as my 175gr) it had a whole 74fps more @ 1000yds i was pretty impressed. Thats if the .530 BC is true. The only reason i say that is because everyone has different results nowadays. I imagine brian's new book has some of the hornady match bullets in it i would be interested to see the G7 BC of the hornady. For now and probably the next year i'm going to stick with the bergers, i got great extreme spread and standard deviation from the load. Still is supersonic @ 1000yds with 1206fps. About to start shooting @ 400, 500, and 600yds till i feel i can take it farther.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blklabs</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Blackops_2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I like the BC of the 178gr but i wouldn't want that extra 3grains of weight for my .308. </div></div>

Really? You will not notice the difference at 1k between the two weights. However, you will notice the difference in bc, since the 178 is touted at .530 (or close to that). The higher bc will make a difference while the 3 gr will go unnoticed. </div></div>

<span style="text-decoration: line-through">Don't know where you are getting the .530 BC number for the 178gr A-Max. Hornady website lists it at .495</span>

Never mind. Guess I should have read the entire thread.