i'm looking for input on horus scopes,not the reticles but the scopes themselves,..durability,quality in construction,quality of glass ect.,etc..
i am aware of the warnings of never buying a scope with the name of a bird,lol. i'm also aware of the bad reports by some but most of those seem to be much older reports from about 2006 to maybe 2008/09/10. i'm also aware of human nature and the desire to "follow-the-leader" and just repeat what everone says without actually having any first hand experience or sometimes even the slightest clue of the reality.
what i'm asking for is reports and opinions from people who either actually own them or somehow have first hand experience with them(perhaps you have a buddy who has one and you can give his/her experiences so far). i'd like to hear from those who've had one for years too and anyone who may have just bought one. anyone in the military(or ex) that's used one would be great to hear from. i'd also like to know about their CS,if anything has changed lately. i'm assuming they don't actually work on or fix their own scopes,is this true?(i know who actually makes them in japan) if there's a problem after 1 year do they send you to a third party or tell you to pound sand? do they give you a hard time even before the 1 year?
i know that their ele/win click adjustments can be a bit mushy but i also know their using those turrets on purpose(it's obvious) to save money(and keep the turrets low and light weight) and have a better price because it's all about the reticle with them. they also have only a 1 year warranty and yes that bothers me but again,they're "supposed" to be doing that on purpose to offer a lower price. in theory(which generally i agree with but still prefer to have),adding a lifetime warranty adds about 20% to the cost of any scope(which makes you think what a scope is really worth,quality and/or where they had to skimp on to compete,doesn't it!?.....or,are they actually pocketing the difference and giving you nothing in return?,it's at least possible too).
are these things worth it? can they take recoil?(what rifle/caliber do you have it on?) do they hold zero? how's the quality of the glass compared to others? are the reticles really extremely well calibrated? does the POI change when zooming down or up like it does on so many others?,etc.,etc.,etc.. i want to hear it all,the good,the bad and the ugly. where exactly do they spend the money on these scopes?
again,these have been covered before but most of those reports are old(including good reports that are old too) and some just repeat what others say and have probably never even seen a horus scope in person. i used the search function but i want more,there's not enough(maybe for a reason?).
i am aware of the warnings of never buying a scope with the name of a bird,lol. i'm also aware of the bad reports by some but most of those seem to be much older reports from about 2006 to maybe 2008/09/10. i'm also aware of human nature and the desire to "follow-the-leader" and just repeat what everone says without actually having any first hand experience or sometimes even the slightest clue of the reality.
what i'm asking for is reports and opinions from people who either actually own them or somehow have first hand experience with them(perhaps you have a buddy who has one and you can give his/her experiences so far). i'd like to hear from those who've had one for years too and anyone who may have just bought one. anyone in the military(or ex) that's used one would be great to hear from. i'd also like to know about their CS,if anything has changed lately. i'm assuming they don't actually work on or fix their own scopes,is this true?(i know who actually makes them in japan) if there's a problem after 1 year do they send you to a third party or tell you to pound sand? do they give you a hard time even before the 1 year?
i know that their ele/win click adjustments can be a bit mushy but i also know their using those turrets on purpose(it's obvious) to save money(and keep the turrets low and light weight) and have a better price because it's all about the reticle with them. they also have only a 1 year warranty and yes that bothers me but again,they're "supposed" to be doing that on purpose to offer a lower price. in theory(which generally i agree with but still prefer to have),adding a lifetime warranty adds about 20% to the cost of any scope(which makes you think what a scope is really worth,quality and/or where they had to skimp on to compete,doesn't it!?.....or,are they actually pocketing the difference and giving you nothing in return?,it's at least possible too).
are these things worth it? can they take recoil?(what rifle/caliber do you have it on?) do they hold zero? how's the quality of the glass compared to others? are the reticles really extremely well calibrated? does the POI change when zooming down or up like it does on so many others?,etc.,etc.,etc.. i want to hear it all,the good,the bad and the ugly. where exactly do they spend the money on these scopes?
again,these have been covered before but most of those reports are old(including good reports that are old too) and some just repeat what others say and have probably never even seen a horus scope in person. i used the search function but i want more,there's not enough(maybe for a reason?).
