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Re: training centers

You could run the local airsoft range. Maybe work for counter sniper scopes who could use your incredible elite skills and complete lack of experience.

If you really are asking this (and apparently having done little/no research as you do not know that blackwater no longer runs the training operation under that brand name), then I would suggest that you may not yet be prepared to consider something like that.

Usually from a professional perspective, attending these kinds of facilities is not like a certification where you go and get your MCSE and then try to get a job. Usually you have a specific background that gets you into a job and to add to your skill base or for a specific need, you then attend a facility like that.

Its different if you are going because you want to, but you asked in a professional context.

Careers that I have seen obtain this kind of training include civilian security for nuclear and sensitive facilities, "executive protection", etc. But remember that the training is usually intended to take skills or experiences you already have and augment them with formal knowledge or with additional skills that "stack" on top of them.

And to actually get a professional role doing something like that requires more than an interest in some of the recent careers that "sound cool".

You exclude military and law enforcement so its hard to understand where you are coming from to give you a better / more effective answer.

Not knowing anything about you, I would point out that you will likely need LE/military background to make an effective application to any kind of professional position applying these skills, unless you have a deep experience in civilian security of some kind.
 
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Diamond:

Blackwater (now Xe)... used to run the Blackwater Academy through their USTC in Moyock, NC. As I understood it, they offered a series of courses that would prepare individuals to go direct from civilian to contractor... This course series was expensive (tens of thousands of dollars to complete the whole program.) And whether they, or anyone else, would hire you afterwards or or not... who knows? This was c. 2009, so don't know if it's offered any more.

I'll strongly echo what Oddball said... instead of trying to go to a PMC, why not apply as a police officer or to the military? There is an LEO shortage in much of the nation and it's a great, rewarding profession. If, as your FB page says, you want to be a Marshall and/or earn a sharpshooter billet, start with local or state LE and later apply to Marshall Service, ICE, USSS or FBI. As your skills and reputation in a department or unit grow, you can move in a lot of directions based on your interests and what you show promise doing.

That said, if you want a career in LE, (or if you want to be recognized as a valued contributer on this forum) you might consider dropping the suburban 'gangsta' club dancer, doggie daycare stuff from your FB page. And when it comes to this forum, take some time to listen, rather than post un-informed stuff about suppressors for Nagants, while using poor grammar and texting shortcuts.

To put it politely, there are a lot of very skilled and knowledgable professionals here on SH who regard that kind of thing as a red flag and will treat you with utter contempt and with ruthless disdain.

Noone here has anything against newbies... there are lots of young, promising future shooters who are welcomed here. But if your personae and posts are associated with the sort of suburban, pitbull, club-dancing doggie daycare Gangsta wannabe stuff you have on your profile and FB page... you will probably want to find another place to hang out online. Noone will take you seriously.

And you will probably want to choose another career direction. I also guarantee you that any LE department (and most other HR departments w. jobs above the level of doggie daycare) will be asking for your FB page links and if they see the sort of thing you have posted... no job. Digital DNA lasts a lonnnnng time.

Just my $0.02.

Cheers, Sirhr
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DlAM0ND</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey all I wasnt sure where to post this but I was wondering if going to training centers like black water or others would help u get a job outside military or law enforcement, and what jobs are there relating to it? And if anyone has other training centers or schools they prefer? Thanks so much! </div></div>

Look at it this way.

There are LOTS of military veterans and LE lining up for jobs. Why would someone hire a person with no real world experience and a couple of paid classes?

The only jobs I can think of outside of LE or Military are Secutity, PMC or VIP Protection. Anything else that requires a gun and the skills to use it are going to be illegal or require being sanctioned by a government agency.
 
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Lonewolf's right that there's plenty of experienced people lining up for jobs. Additionally my company isn't even allowed to touch anyone for a security position without a minimum of five years law enforcement or military, unless they have four and recent combat time in theater. That's a requirement by the customer (USG).

Best training center around can be contacted at 1-800-MARINES.
 
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First of All to clear things up - I Asked would it HELP, Not get me a job, as in would it looks good on a resume. I never said I was against law enforcement or military, I do wanna join the military, but I'm not sure if I can do to a personal reason. So I'm
trying to think outside the box. Also I work with animals because I like too and it pays the bills for now, I'm only 22 and it isn't meant to be a life long career. I don't like "pit bulls" because I want to be a "gangster", I like them because they are great dogs, Very good for families, Sweet, and shouldn't get the bad reputation they do. I volunteer for rescue groups in my spare time to help them. I also know that black water is "XE" now but not everyone might and I was just using them as an example. I didn't think it would be that hard to get an answer(s) for this question, instead all I got is a bunch of judge-mental comments about myself and No real answers. Grow up people, you say "you here to help each other and newbies are fine" well ya sure do not act like it. I come on snipers hide to learn and that's why I ask questions because some things you read about online can be controversial and I would like more opinions. So IF anyone wants to actually give advice on the question without taking it out of context Id be glad to hear what you have to say, If not I just wont bother with your insults. Thank you.
 
Re: training centers

Great way to demonstrate the maturity and even temperament that will serve you well in this career.

You got good advice from myself and several others.

If you cant qualify for the military, how the hell are you going to be a good applicant for the other roles which use this kind of training?

If your "personal reason" is physical, why would your disqualifier be overcome when being considered for a job which would require the same physical and firearms skills?

If your personal reason is criminal, you are likely done before you start.

I think the best advice here -- honestly and being completely serious -- is to focus on a career that you have a real chance of getting. If you like animals, get formally trained as a vet tech. Or work hard and try the college route. Start in a local CC and go up from there with good grades and trying to earn grants/scholarships.

The honest truth (even if it is one you do not want to hear) is that you have not seriously considered this as an option, you do not appear to have done much research, and even this follow up response raises questions about your preparedness or willingness to do the hard, time-intensive things it would take to be in a position where a program like that would be accretive to your background.

Remember, the completion of a training course like that only matters in the context of its position.

Think of it like a castle. You want to present a strong and well-maintained image to a potential employer - no matter whether public or private. Great, you have a strong, well maintained, gun turret in your castle that you acquired through investment in a public course.

If the walls are crumbling from lack of experience or the personal foundation just is not there in a background check, psych eval, and interview process, it just will not matter.

Employers can be choosy. For every position there are hundred of veterans out there with experience in services which have above average infantry training or advanced weapons handling skills. Some of them may have acquired thier POST in their respective state, or may have a background which is particularly suited to a certain type of civilian work (SF, MP, etc). Add in the pool of perfectly-qualified degree-holding criminal justice majors, etc, some of whom are working existing security positions instead of doggy daycares to compete against as well.

I know its not the response you want, but it is the truth.
 
Re: training centers

Dude.

And before you apply for ANY job in the modern age, take this profile down.

[NSFW warning for 'hiders]
http://www.xpeeps.com/member.php?u=921488

E-mail cross-indexing is legal in most states for a background check. Quoting from the profile:

Hello there! My name is Adam But most call me Diamond! Im 21 years old and live between Charlotte and NYC! Im Bisexual and knew I was at the age of 12 or 13! Ive always had a large interest in the Adult industry since I was young. I'm A Stripper right now, And have worked many clubs in the North and South. I love Dancing, Entertaining people with my body, Showing off, And having sex on camera or in front of and Audience, And love Being naked for every1 to see! I'm interested in getting into the porn business now tho! I wanna do photos and videos, And NOTHING is off limits for me, Ill try anything once(and usually love it)! I love sex with Girls and Boys, Group sex, 3 somes, Orgies, Anything you can think of! When I'm with Boys I'm versatile but prefer to be on bottom! Im more interested in Bi/Gay porn, But do want to do some straight porn as well! If Anyone knows of a job for me please let me know, Ill jump into it with my all, I'm hard working and always available! Im looking for work close to Charlotte or NYC Preferably but I will travel if need be! I'm very open minded and easy going, but a hard worker also, Im very easy to get along with tho! Well If theres anything else youd like to know just contact me! My Email is [email protected] or you can instant message me on Aim - XdLam0ndx Hope to hear from some of you! - Diamond

And the Poll:
What is your pubic hair style?
Shaved
How many sexual partners have you had?
50+

Have you ever given someone oral sex?
Yes, I enjoyed it
Have you ever received oral sex?
Yes, I enjoyed it

Have you ever had anal sex?
Yes, I enjoyed it
What is your favorite sexual position?
Reverse Cowgirl (woman on top facing away)

How often do you masturbate?
Every opportunity I get
Have you ever kissed someone of the same sex?
Yes

Have you ever had sex with someone of the same sex?
Yes
Have you ever taken or been in nude photos?
Both

Have you ever been in a pornographic video?
Yes Have you ever had multiple partners at once?
Yes, a foursome

Have you ever watched porn?
Yes, I own some
Have you ever been to a nude beach or a nudist area?
No

Have you ever watched or been watched having sex?
Both
Have you ever had an orgasm?
Yes

Do you own any sex toys?
Yes, just a dildo
Have you ever paid for sex?
No

Do you participate in BDSM?
Yes, I'm a switch
Do you enjoy rough sex?
Yes, occasionally



No bueno, Diamond. No bueno.
 
Re: training centers

I want to go back under my little rock and pretend I didnt read that. Denial can be a wonderful thing.
 
Re: training centers

Interests?

General:SEX SEX SEX, Dancing, Porn, Stripping, Computers, Cars, Girls girls girls & <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">Boys boys boys... YUMMY!</span></span>, Tv, Hanging out with Friends, Partying, <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">Getting Wasted, Drawing and Sketching</span></span>


I heard that these were top pre-req's for any job these days. You should do well!
 
Re: training centers

A dollar a bag Julio!
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Re: training centers

Oddball...

How very wierd that you find all this questionable material so quickly.

Most of the time when shankster does his detective work, we are treated to a facebook, and/or a myspace page.

Are you the Vice section of the Sniper's Hide PD? LOL!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmaHeavy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Oddball...

How very wierd that you find all this questionable material so quickly.

Most of the time when shankster does his detective work, we are treated to a facebook, and/or a myspace page.

Are you the Vice section of the Sniper's Hide PD? LOL!
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I was waiting to bait the Diamond further into the snare.

"Hello there! My name is Adam But most call me Diamond! Im 21 years old and live between Charlotte and NYC! Im Bisexual and knew I was at the age of 12 or 13! Ive always had a large interest in the Adult industry since I was young. I'm A Stripper right now, And have worked many clubs in the North and South. I love Dancing, Entertaining people with my body, Showing off, And having sex on camera or in front of and Audience, And love Being naked for every1 to see! I'm interested in getting into the porn business now tho! I wanna do photos and videos, And NOTHING is off limits for me, Ill try anything once(and usually love it)! I love sex with Girls and Boys, Group sex, 3 somes, Orgies, Anything you can think of! <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="text-decoration: underline">When I'm with Boys I'm versatile but prefer to be on bottom!</span></span> Im more interested in Bi/Gay porn, But do want to do some straight porn as well! If Anyone knows of a job for me please let me know, Ill jump into it with my all, I'm hard working and always available! Im looking for work close to Charlotte or NYC Preferably but I will travel if need be! I'm very open minded and easy going, but a hard worker also, Im very easy to get along with tho! Well If theres anything else youd like to know just contact me! My Email is [email protected] or you can instant message me on Aim - XdLam0ndx Hope to hear from some of you! - Diamond


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Re: training centers

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Oddball-Six</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Dude.

And before you apply for ANY job in the modern age, take this profile down.

[NSFW warning for 'hiders]
http://www.xpeeps.com/member.php?u=921488

E-mail cross-indexing is legal in most states for a background check. Quoting from the profile:

Hello there! My name is Adam But most call me Diamond! Im 21 years old and live between Charlotte and NYC! Im Bisexual and knew I was at the age of 12 or 13! Ive always had a large interest in the Adult industry since I was young. I'm A Stripper right now, And have worked many clubs in the North and South. I love Dancing, Entertaining people with my body, Showing off, And having sex on camera or in front of and Audience, And love Being naked for every1 to see! I'm interested in getting into the porn business now tho! I wanna do photos and videos, And NOTHING is off limits for me, Ill try anything once(and usually love it)! I love sex with Girls and Boys, Group sex, 3 somes, Orgies, Anything you can think of! When I'm with Boys I'm versatile but prefer to be on bottom! Im more interested in Bi/Gay porn, But do want to do some straight porn as well! If Anyone knows of a job for me please let me know, Ill jump into it with my all, I'm hard working and always available! Im looking for work close to Charlotte or NYC Preferably but I will travel if need be! I'm very open minded and easy going, but a hard worker also, Im very easy to get along with tho! Well If theres anything else youd like to know just contact me! My Email is [email protected] or you can instant message me on Aim - XdLam0ndx Hope to hear from some of you! - Diamond

And the Poll:
What is your pubic hair style?
Shaved
How many sexual partners have you had?
50+

Have you ever given someone oral sex?
Yes, I enjoyed it
Have you ever received oral sex?
Yes, I enjoyed it

Have you ever had anal sex?
Yes, I enjoyed it
What is your favorite sexual position?
Reverse Cowgirl (woman on top facing away)

How often do you masturbate?
Every opportunity I get
Have you ever kissed someone of the same sex?
Yes

Have you ever had sex with someone of the same sex?
Yes
Have you ever taken or been in nude photos?
Both

Have you ever been in a pornographic video?
Yes Have you ever had multiple partners at once?
Yes, a foursome

Have you ever watched porn?
Yes, I own some
Have you ever been to a nude beach or a nudist area?
No

Have you ever watched or been watched having sex?
Both
Have you ever had an orgasm?
Yes

Do you own any sex toys?
Yes, just a dildo
Have you ever paid for sex?
No

Do you participate in BDSM?
Yes, I'm a switch
Do you enjoy rough sex?
Yes, occasionally



No bueno, Diamond. No bueno. </div></div>

Just the type of person every PD, LE, security firm and the military needs.....well,...maybe for their Holiday parties???? NOT Can't believe anyone would put that discription of themselves into print!!! No wonder this country is fucked up!!!!
 
Re: training centers

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Oddball-Six</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
If your "personal reason" is physical, why would your disqualifier be overcome when being considered for a job which would require the same physical and firearms skills?

If your personal reason is criminal, you are likely done before you start.</div></div>

I think you just figured out what his "personal" reason is.

Diamond I think you have probably already made some life choices that have seriously closed some doors for you. If you like helping animals (because after that last page I really hesistate to say "working" with animals") become a vet. If you are successful you will have money to play with and you can spend all the time you want going to shooting schools.
 
Re: training centers

when you say you enjoy working with animals do you really mean you are a member of a donkey show?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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Pest popcorn pic EVA!!!!

And WTF is this in "Bolt Action" when the title even has "training" in it?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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+1 million
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
knfut.jpg
</div></div>

Pest popcorn pic EVA!!!!

And WTF is this in "Bolt Action" when the title even has "training" in it? </div></div>

Agree with you there, can't we just ban this guy and be done with him
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
knfut.jpg
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Pest popcorn pic EVA!!!!
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Better than this one????

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Re: training centers

In the Beginning there was Maser....

And Lowlight did banneth him.

Now there lurks a new, insidious scourge within the wholesome, righteous realm of Sniper's Hide.

Will Lowlight read this topic and send a stream of vomit all over his computer?

Will Mike request that his IP address be banned?

Will Chiller get a better popcorn mpeg than JRose?

And will someone understand that maybe this weirdo might have wanted this kind of 'attention'?

Think about it...In the end he benefits because of Oddball and Shankster's dating service!!!!! LOL!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Technically it is a gif......

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Technically you're in second place. lol.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmaHeavy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Chiller</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Technically it is a gif......

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Technically you're in second place. lol.
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But I have fun trying to improve my placing...
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Re: training centers

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shankster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can drop pics and screen grabs on this clown that would make you guys hurl. </div></div>

Just because you can does not me you <span style="text-decoration: underline">should</span>
 
Re: training centers

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Captain Moroni</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: shankster</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I can drop pics and screen grabs on this clown that would make you guys hurl. </div></div>

Just because you can does not me you <span style="text-decoration: underline">should</span></div></div>

I think I will have to concur. There is a reason that I linked the google. Seeing the text of the search results and clicking on just one of those god-awful links was more than enough for me. Blech.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DlAM0ND</div><div class="ubbcode-body">how often should u clean yer gun</div></div>

Apparently he did come back to change the text of his original post
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Wow. Didn't know this existed. Wish we had the rest of the thread