Rifle Scopes I'm stuck 1/4, 1/8, or .1; Zerostop; What fits me?

[Kymoonshiner]

I have been reading and reading and from what I've read the difference between 1/4 and .1mil is mute to someone who has experience with it and knows their rifle/scope combo.

For background I'm interested in F-TR style shooting but would like to also be able to use the scope for long range hunting (250-800 yards). I've settled on an 8-32 NXS but can't decide much beyond that; some posts claim .1 mil is crap for F-TR at 1,000 yards. due to my understanding that the X is 3" and the mechanical deviation at 1,000 yards for .1 mil is 3.6".

It has been a long while since I've shot at any range requiring turret adjustments I could easily begin using either MOA or mil. For F-TR I surmised that the 1/8 moa adjustments would be best although that scope is only available for NF with a MOAR-T reticle (not bad) but is not available with zero stops (bad). Are zerostops useful for F-TR? I'm guessing not but more so for quickly changing ranges while hunting or a more tactical type of match.

The 1/4 moa turrets are available with the moar-t, and zerostop, but again just slightly better than .1 mil at 1,000 yards; the .1 mil turrets are available with zerostop and MLR reticle although already establishing that .1mil may not be favorable at 1,000. I will consider the possibility that the MLR reticles graduations would allow me to adjust POI using the crosshairs if I already know the error of the scopes zero. I'm assuming for hunting or tactical type matches the MIL/MLR/zerostop combo would be desirable due to speed and simplicity?

I've read multiple searches on the topic but they seems to talk in circles, there are fans of both, and those who say it doesn't matter which I'm inclined to agree with if you are accustomed to using what you have.

I guess what I'm asking is which is best suited for what I want to do with it?

 

[Dynamic Response]

In my opinion zero stops are useful in any type of shooting As far as adjustments go I like .1 mil. For me it's easier to make quick adjustments especially on wind calls. But they is preference As far long range shooting goes. I believe any adjustments will be good. Obviously the finer the adjustment the better. But Remember if your gun shoots 1/2 moa. That Is still 5 in groups at 1000yd. If you are going for the the tiny groups at a 1000 then I would go with a very thin reticle.

Look at Nightforce competition line or even March scope. They have a 8-80 power.

 

[HodgdonExtreme]

1/8 moa or .05mrad turrets are better for f class and general known distance shooting.

Zero stops are always nice.

I'm an mrad FFP guy, but if setting up an f class rifle and given choice between zero stop with .1 clicks, or no zero stop and 1/8 clicks, I'd choose the 1/8 click model.

+1 on checking out the newer NF Competition, and March scopes. Both will offer zero stop and 1/8 turrets.

 

[JL]

For background I'm interested in F-TR style shooting but would like to also be able to use the scope for long range hunting (250-800 yards). I've settled on an 8-32 NXS but can't decide much beyond that; some posts claim .1 mil is crap for F-TR at 1,000 yards. due to my understanding that the X is 3" and the mechanical deviation at 1,000 yards for .1 mil is 3.6".

It has been a long while since I've shot at any range requiring turret adjustments I could easily begin using either MOA or mil. For F-TR I surmised that the 1/8 moa adjustments would be best although that scope is only available for NF with a MOAR-T reticle (not bad) but is not available with zero stops (bad). Are zerostops useful for F-TR? I'm guessing not but more so for quickly changing ranges while hunting or a more tactical type of match.

The 1/4 moa turrets are available with the moar-t, and zerostop, but again just slightly better than .1 mil at 1,000 yards; the .1 mil turrets are available with zerostop and MLR reticle although already establishing that .1mil may not be favorable at 1,000. I will consider the possibility that the MLR reticles graduations would allow me to adjust POI using the crosshairs if I already know the error of the scopes zero. I'm assuming for hunting or tactical type matches the MIL/MLR/zerostop combo would be desirable due to speed and simplicity?

Note that 8-32 and especially 12-40 have limited elevation travel due to long focal length.
With 8-32, you will need canted mount- possibly for 800yds already depending about caliber and natural POI of your rifle.

0.1mil does not mean 3,6" error at 1000yds!
It means that if your POI happens to be **exactly** half way between clicks, maximum error is half click = 1.8". Makes about 1.4" at 800yds.


EDIT: ZS is very effective against brainfarts...ask me how I know...

 

[RTH1800]

Going to need to focus your intended use. If F-TR is your main concern, go with 1/8th MOA. If you want to ever sell it on this site. Go .1mil. No matter the use, get a reticule that matches your adjustments and get CCW adj. anything else is making your life hard for no benefit.
Good luck in your choice.

RTH

 

[sib1948]

I would recommend the March FX 5-40X-illuminated, if you need it for hunting will cost $500 more. They come with either 0.05 mil or 0.1 mil clicks. They are 2/3rds the length and weight of the other scopes you mentioned and have easy zero stop. About $3200 nonilluminated. Only 5 year warranty and the best Japanese glass that rivals Europe. Nice floating center dot. Kelbly Rifles is the only US distributor and says he'll personally take care of you as long as you own the scope. Addmount makes custom covers for these that are worth the $100 price tag.

I ran my 5-40X for a year and a half on my Barrett MRAD 338 LM with nary an issue. Use the March F 3-24X 42 mm ($2250 and new 52 mm about $500 more) on one of my DTA SRS A1s in 260, 308 and 338 LM, again with no issues after 2 years. Sounds like one of these would more than fill your needs. Call Kelbly's. They are always extremely helpful and can further refine your needs. Many good reviews of these scopes here on the Hide, if you do a Google search! Good Luck