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Is spreading democracy any better than communism?

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So I keep hearing this BS about spreading democracy, where the majority (often morphing into a few political elites) impose their will onto the minority, ie two guys vote to rape one girl, sorry chicka you got democracied

Communism everything is done for the common good, again often ending up some political elites living large off everyone else. But seems very similar.

Why don’t we hear how we should spread the bill of rights, and the ideals of a constitutional republic?
 
So I keep hearing this BS about spreading democracy, where the majority (often morphing into a few political elites) impose their will onto the minority, ie two guys vote to rape one girl, sorry chicka you got democracied

Communism everything is done for the common good, again often ending up some political elites living large off everyone else. But seems very similar.

Why don’t we hear how we should spread the bill of rights, and the ideals of a constitutional republic?
We shouldn’t spread shit.
 
You are completely full of shit on every level. It's clear that you have not had to deal with the repercussions or to really see or feel what the results of what real communism brings.

For the past 25 or so years the world has morphed into a world in between, including here in the US.

As for me and my house we will fight and destroy communism and totalitarianism where ever it's found, including right here in the US.
 
Why don’t we hear how we should spread the bill of rights, and the ideals of a constitutional republic?
Is this a serious question?

I kid but I think by now everyone should understand why that doesn’t really happen

And for anyone who still believes in democracy, here’s a pretty good read
 
You are completely full of shit on every level. It's clear that you have not had to deal with the repercussions or to really see or feel what the results of what real communism brings.

For the past 25 or so years the world has morphed into a world in between, including here in the US.

As for me and my house we will fight and destroy communism and totalitarianism where ever it's found, including right here in the US.

Yeah, no one is doubting that bud

Point is democracy ain’t that much better, and in some ways is a spin off of communism, when the majority can “vote” to do anything they want to the minority, that ain’t freedom.

Having a constitution, further protected by a bill of rights on the first 10, that limits what the majority can do, without that shield it’s just fucking mob rule.

Basically communism is like coke, socialism is like diet coke, and straight democracy is Coke Zero.
 
So I keep hearing this BS about spreading democracy, where the majority (often morphing into a few political elites) impose their will onto the minority, ie two guys vote to rape one girl, sorry chicka you got democracied

Communism everything is done for the common good, again often ending up some political elites living large off everyone else. But seems very similar.

Why don’t we hear how we should spread the bill of rights, and the ideals of a constitutional republic?
I saw your post and before I clicked the link I was fuming...because you are correct in your last philosophical question!!!! Democracy is only a smart part of a Constitutional Republic. Ours used to mean democratically elected representatives; but now, it means cheatingly elected leaders.
 
So I keep hearing this BS about spreading democracy, where the majority (often morphing into a few political elites) impose their will onto the minority, ie two guys vote to rape one girl, sorry chicka you got democracied

Communism everything is done for the common good, again often ending up some political elites living large off everyone else. But seems very similar.

Why don’t we hear how we should spread the bill of rights, and the ideals of a constitutional republic?

Clearly you do not have any great understanding of democracy. Majority rule works best in a republic, America is a republic. Since you apparently have never had any classes on civics, history or philosophy you missed that part. America's plan is to allow the majority to be represented as much as possible while respecting the minorities and their opinions, wishes and religions.

Our democratically elected politicians are supposed to represent the people from their precincts, districts, counties, states or regions. Unlike the current government we have, in the past we had representation in government. This country is changing and with rigged elections, crooked voting computers and fucked up laws we have allowed a ruling class to take over the country. They steal until they become rich, they are corrupt to the nth degree and more than money, they crave the power of life and death over everyone. I assure you voter fraud is rampant and the majority of fraud is Democrats. That being said, the Republicans in power turned on their elected president because he was from the wealthy elite and not welcome in the halls of power. They betrayed him at every turn to protect their hold on power.

Congress is elected on a two year cycle to allow for the immediate will of the people to be applied at the federal level. They are supposed to allow for quicker changes in law or practice. Congressmen were never intended to serve for 60 years.

The Senate is elected on a six year cycle with 1/3rd of the Senate up for election every two years to allow for a slower more rational view of current events to shape our government. Senators were appointed by governors for most of American history and they were never intended to serve for sixty years.

Th President is to be elected every four years and meant to serve as the single point of contact in the government for all matters requiring a head of state. Like international treaties, declarations of war and so forth.

Having three branches of government allowed for oversight from judicial to stop any branch from becoming too powerful and also to force congress to pass laws if they have bullshit they want addressed, not to order by decree as they do these days.

Our Republic is a democracy held in check and when ran correctly it is quite good. The real problem is since 1979 when Jimmy Fucking Carter created the department of education, the leftists have had total control over the educational system in this country and they have turned people into fucking idiots over the last 40 years. We are now a nation of cunts with no math skills, cannot fucking spell and have no earthly idea about the history of the country. This is why they believe any stupid shit the hear or see on TV.


Fuck Communism, if you like it so much...............................fucking move to a communist country and report back on how fucking great it is. Leave us to live in the misery of capitalism in peace.

Nothing good on this earth has come from communism. Communism has murdered 150,000,000 people in the last 120 years at a minimum. Everything worth a shit comes from Capitalism as a method of a socio-economic system.

Rockets in space? That was Goddard, an American who was closely studied by Germans. Germans made the Russian and American space programs.

Cell Phones, no fucking commies in that development either. Computers for commercial and private use, not a fucking commie in sight. Cars for private ownership? No fucking commies on that one either. Own your own home? Not a thing in communism. Forget about owning a business under fucking commies. Tough shit when it comes to traveling the world. Hell, Al Gore invented the internet for the good of all Americans, or so they say. Good fucking luck with free speech in a commie country. Free medicine? Sure, in a commie country it means you all fucking die at 55 years old.

The only thing America spreads these days is corruption. Shitty Biden paintings and Putin literally bribed Hillary when she was Sec of State with a $143,000,000 in graft from his oligarchs. We do not preach democracy because one political party in this country despises democracy and is leaning hard towards communism.

It is our job to stop them from destroying the world as we know it.
 
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Clearly you do not have any great understanding of democracy. Majority rule works best in a republic, America is a republic. Since you apparently have never had any classes on civics, history or philosophy you missed that part. America's plan is to allow the majority to be represented as much as possible while respecting the minorities and their opinions, wishes and religions.

Our democratically elected politicians are supposed to represent the people from their precincts, districts, counties, states or regions. Unlike the current government we have, in the past we had representation in government.

Congress is elected on a two year cycle to allow for the immediate will of the people to be applied at the federal level. They are supposed to allow for quicker changes in law or practice. Congressmen were never intended to serve for 60 years.

The Senate is elected on a six year cycle with 1/3rd of the Senate up for election every two years to allow for a slower more rational view of current events to shape our government. Senators were appointed by governors for most of American history and they were never intended to serve for sixty years.

Th President is to be elected every four years and meant to serve as the single point of contact in the government for all matters requiring a head of state. Like international treaties, declarations of war and so forth.

Having three branches of government allowed for oversight from judicial to stop any branch from becoming too powerful and also to force congress to pass laws if they have bullshit they want addressed, not to order by decree as they do these days.

Our Republic is a democracy held in check and when ran correctly it is quite good. The real problem is since 1979 when Jimmy Fucking Carter created the department of education, the leftists have had total control over the educational system in this country and they have turned people into fucking idiots over the last 40 years. We are now a nation of cunts with no math skills, cannot fucking spell and have no earthly idea about the history of the country. This is why they believe any stupid shit the hear or see on TV.


Fuck Communism, if you like it so much...............................fucking move to a communist country and report back on how fucking great it is. Leave us to live in the misery of capitalism in peace.

Nothing good on this earth has come from communism. Communism has murdered 150,000,000 people in the last 120 years at a minimum. Everything worth a shit comes from Capitalism as a method of a socio-economic system.

Rockets in space? That was Goddard, an American who was closely studied by Germans. Germans made the Russian and American space programs.

Cell Phones, no fucking commies in that development either. Computers for commercial and private use, not a fucking commie in sight. Cars for private ownership? No fucking commies on that one either. Own your own home? Not a thing in communism. Forget about owning a business under fucking commies. Tough shit when it comes to traveling the world. Hell, Al Gore invented the internet for the good of all Americans, or so they say. Good fucking luck with free speech in a commie country. Free medicine? Sure, in a commie country it means you all fucking die at 55 years old.

The only thing America spreads these days is corruption. Shitty Biden paintings and Putin literally bribed Hillary when she was Sec of State with a $143,000,000 in graft from his oligarchs. We do not preach democracy because one political party in this country despises democracy and is leaning hard towards communism.

It is our job to stop them from destroying the world as we know it.

Wow, you’re one rote little bugger arnt ya

Reread that I wrote, slowly, and try again.

One hint, I wasn’t talking about what we have in the US obviously, as much as the use of the term “spreading democracy”

And saying I support communism, when I think straight democracy is too communist, brah… reading comprehension


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Get you mom or big brother to read it to you slower, I answered all of your questions so you can get to bed early. Tomorrow is a school day for you isn't it?

No, you failed at grasping the point, and I’d wager you’re probably much more of a statist than I am.

Basically I’d rather we try to spread the bill of rights vs democracy

Hand over a copy of the bill of rights to all the shit hole countries who take our tax dollars, enact this or you get no money or military support.
 
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Did you ever study the development of mankind and civilizations thru-out what we "know" as world history??? It's pretty clear what we need to be spreading.
 
We shouldn’t spread shit.
you beat me to it.

if people want it, fight for it. someone fighting for it....i might be inclined to help. but trying to put it on people that dont want it and actually resent it? FUCK. THAT. and if you look at the vast majority of shit we've gotten wrapped up in in this century and the last, most of it is trying to put our way of life on others. and how is that working out? that's right.....it isnt.
Clearly you do not have any great understanding of democracy. Majority rule works best in a republic, America is a republic. Since you apparently have never had any classes on civics, history or philosophy you missed that part. America's plan is to allow the majority to be represented as much as possible while respecting the minorities and their opinions, wishes and religions.

Our democratically elected politicians are supposed to represent the people from their precincts, districts, counties, states or regions. Unlike the current government we have, in the past we had representation in government. This country is changing and with rigged elections, crooked voting computers and fucked up laws we have allowed a ruling class to take over the country. They steal until they become rich, they are corrupt to the nth degree and more than money, they crave the power of life and death over everyone. I assure you voter fraud is rampant and the majority of fraud is Democrats. That being said, the Republicans in power turned on their elected president because he was from the wealthy elite and not welcome in the halls of power. They betrayed him at every turn to protect their hold on power.

Congress is elected on a two year cycle to allow for the immediate will of the people to be applied at the federal level. They are supposed to allow for quicker changes in law or practice. Congressmen were never intended to serve for 60 years.

The Senate is elected on a six year cycle with 1/3rd of the Senate up for election every two years to allow for a slower more rational view of current events to shape our government. Senators were appointed by governors for most of American history and they were never intended to serve for sixty years.

Th President is to be elected every four years and meant to serve as the single point of contact in the government for all matters requiring a head of state. Like international treaties, declarations of war and so forth.

Having three branches of government allowed for oversight from judicial to stop any branch from becoming too powerful and also to force congress to pass laws if they have bullshit they want addressed, not to order by decree as they do these days.

Our Republic is a democracy held in check and when ran correctly it is quite good. The real problem is since 1979 when Jimmy Fucking Carter created the department of education, the leftists have had total control over the educational system in this country and they have turned people into fucking idiots over the last 40 years. We are now a nation of cunts with no math skills, cannot fucking spell and have no earthly idea about the history of the country. This is why they believe any stupid shit the hear or see on TV.


Fuck Communism, if you like it so much...............................fucking move to a communist country and report back on how fucking great it is. Leave us to live in the misery of capitalism in peace.

Nothing good on this earth has come from communism. Communism has murdered 150,000,000 people in the last 120 years at a minimum. Everything worth a shit comes from Capitalism as a method of a socio-economic system.

Rockets in space? That was Goddard, an American who was closely studied by Germans. Germans made the Russian and American space programs.

Cell Phones, no fucking commies in that development either. Computers for commercial and private use, not a fucking commie in sight. Cars for private ownership? No fucking commies on that one either. Own your own home? Not a thing in communism. Forget about owning a business under fucking commies. Tough shit when it comes to traveling the world. Hell, Al Gore invented the internet for the good of all Americans, or so they say. Good fucking luck with free speech in a commie country. Free medicine? Sure, in a commie country it means you all fucking die at 55 years old.

The only thing America spreads these days is corruption. Shitty Biden paintings and Putin literally bribed Hillary when she was Sec of State with a $143,000,000 in graft from his oligarchs. We do not preach democracy because one political party in this country despises democracy and is leaning hard towards communism.

It is our job to stop them from destroying the world as we know it.
and looking at the state of the union as it currently stands......how is all that working out for us?

i'm going to refer to dave mustaine on this one.....he called it 30 fucking years ago

 
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Did you ever study the development of mankind and civilizations thru-out what we "know" as world history??? It's pretty clear what we need to be spreading.

I have, and as one wise man said, much is “cruel and brutal”, so we want to move forward, or back to the caveman days?

I believe the bill of rights was the best document possibly written in all of history, second being the 10 commandments.

Pure democracy without a proper wall of a bill of rights, that’s fucking garbage mob rule
 
No, you failed at grasping the point, and I’d wager you’re probably much more of a statist than I am.

Basically I’d rather we try to spread the bill of rights vs democracy

Hand over a copy of the bill of rights to all the shit hole countries who take our tax dollars, enact this or you get no money or military support.

An why would you assume that people who lack the background of the smarter Americans would want the same rights?

Did they have problems with soldiers quartered in their homes? Maybe slavery and alcohol issues?

Do you honestly think everyone is demanding freedom of religion or wanting to introduce pedophilia and gender reassignment to their grade school aged children?

People look at this country, with a demented old child molester for president and see him fuck over Afghanistan and the Ukraine and they toss their copy of our constitution in the trash.

We have handed over our leadership position in the world, 15 months ago we became a failed state, leaderless, borderless with an economy in a death spiral and an eventual civil war on the horizon.
 
is that what anyone thinks we are doing, anywhere?

lol
 
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Is what we have today because of the Constitution or in spite of it? The result is the same either way as far as I am concerned.


That is the mystery. The constitution got us a long way towards allowing people the freedom to do what they have always dreamed of doing. This freedom is unheard of in the rest of the world. A man with a dream created the entire oil industry. A similar man created the steel industry, same goes for many industries. Inventions of all types were developed because a person from any background could patent and protect his/her/its inventions and market them as they saw fit.

The federal government is the opposite of the freedoms in the Bill of Rights. The government is the roadblock to many things and it exists to steal the ideas, wealth and freedoms of its citizens. I'm of the opinion we live in a era of the federal government trying to remove our rights and freedoms to protect itself and the ruling political class from being removed from power.
 
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is that what anyone thinks we are doing, anywhere?

lol

Nah, it’s just making money for stock tickers and kick backs to politicians

But still, the sales pitch is fucking lame, I mean if you’re trying to sell me, tell me you said enact this bill of rights, but they won’t because they don’t want even more pesky empowered peasants.

Saying if they have even the most rigged election, I mean like a high school drama class level production, that sets the bar low enough to be able to sell to dumb ass Tammy and Todd on mainstreet and all their adult oops kids.

Politicians, who aren’t often a product of goverment schools, know that the more freedoms and knowledge the populous gains, the less steady their footing is on the top of the pile.
 
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Nah, it’s just making money for stock tickers and kick backs to politicians

But still, the sales pitch is fucking lame, I mean if you’re trying to sell me, tell me you said enact this bill of rights, but they won’t because they don’t want even more pesky empowered peasants.

Saying if they have even the most rigged election, I mean like a high school drama class level production, that sets the bar low enough to be able to sell to dumb ass Tammy and Todd on mainstreet and all their adult oops kids.
as we have seen firsthand, "free and fair elections" is how they install who they want.
 
Prefect Model Afghan Warlord , beholden to no one. Governments are corrupt and use the masses looking to them for survival.
 
Prefect Model Afghan Warlord , beholden to no one. Governments are corrupt and use the masses looking to them for survival.

The closer we get to our bill of rights and and free market, the harder that gets for them.

Hence their constant attacks on the bill of rights and the free market.
 
The closer we get to our bill of rights and and free market, the harder that gets for them.

Hence their constant attacks on the bill of rights and the free market.
Warlords use the free market system, you take what you want and its free.
 
Democracy is mob rule plain and simple. Influence and control the mob majority to bully the minority. That's why it's the enemy of the constitution which is supposed to protect the individual. And why Denocrats work so hard to change it.

Listen to them when they say things like "threat to our Democracy" what they really mean is threat to "our agenda" or "our establishment" key word is OUR.
 
We have handed over our leadership position in the world, 15 months ago we became a failed state, leaderless, borderless with an economy in a death spiral and an eventual civil war on the horizon.
we didnt hand it over. it was stolen. big difference. but the rest of that statement is dead nutz on.

i would dare to say, that damn near everyone of us agrees on about 80% of the core issues. we kinda get into the briars on the details beyond that. keep that 80% in mind, Brothers. the 20% we squabble about is chicken scratch.
 
I have, and as one wise man said, much is “cruel and brutal”, so we want to move forward, or back to the caveman days?

I believe the bill of rights was the best document possibly written in all of history, second being the 10 commandments.

Pure democracy without a proper wall of a bill of rights, that’s fucking garbage mob rule

The Bill of Rights best written document in all of history??? The Bill of Rights isn't a separate document. It's a list of amendments to the US Constitution. The US Constitution is nothing more than a document that outlines the formation of our GOV. Once voted on and adopted/incorporated into the Constitution the "Bill of Rights" IS the US Constitution. If in fact the "Bill of Rights" was it's own separate document that stood alone I'd argue that perhaps the USA would be MUCH better place to enjoy the natural life of a human.

The Bill of Rights was only established to help complete the formation of our GOV cause some states were not going to ratify the Constitution without some protections for the citizens. It did NOTHING for the rest of the world, it only applied to the USA hence US Citizens.

In short you want the whole world to use the US Constitution as their document of their country ??????? That's not democracy.

Democracy is being GIVEN the ability to live your life your way, your people to govern they way THEY choose. If the people want Communism, let them. If people want an autocracy, let them. If they want to rule lands with spears and make war, let them.



The Ten Commandments???
I guess your religion/history class had lots of pictures.....
 
Might depend on which side the person is on. Doing the spreading versus being spread...?

Because both will come to spread promises....with guns.

Just a true matter of perspective.
 
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The Bill of Rights best written document in all of history??? The Bill of Rights isn't a separate document. It's a list of amendments to the US Constitution. The US Constitution is nothing more than a document that outlines the formation of our GOV. Once voted on and adopted/incorporated into the Constitution the "Bill of Rights" IS the US Constitution. If in fact the "Bill of Rights" was it's own separate document that stood alone I'd argue that perhaps the USA would be MUCH better place to enjoy the natural life of a human.

The Bill of Rights was only established to help complete the formation of our GOV cause some states were not going to ratify the Constitution without some protections for the citizens. It did NOTHING for the rest of the world, it only applied to the USA hence US Citizens.

In short you want the whole world to use the US Constitution as their document of their country ??????? That's not democracy.

Democracy is being GIVEN the ability to live your life your way, your people to govern they way THEY choose. If the people want Communism, let them. If people want an autocracy, let them. If they want to rule lands with spears and make war, let them.



The Ten Commandments???
I guess your religion/history class had lots of pictures.....

Lol, oh Lordy no.

Democracy is living your life, or losing your life, if the majority say so

The bill of rights is set of non negotiable standards every human has, regardless of what the horde says.


For the most part the 10 commandments were basic common sense for anyone raised properly regardless of religion.
 
Lol, oh Lordy no.

Democracy is living your life, if losing your life, if the majority say so

The bill of rights is set of non negotiable standards every human has, regardless of what the horde says.

It's a list of amendments. Every human??? Nope. It only applies to the US Constitution.
 
BTW: Democracy= a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives.
 
Imo, the constitution and bill of rights could have been a little more detailed and discript. Its just vague enough that the powers that be can weasel their way into interpreting it to their benifit.

Regardless it's still a genius document that could be a blueprint for a balanced functional government in any country.
 
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Imo, the constitution and bill of rights could have been a little more detailed and discript. Its just vague enough that the powers that be can weasel their way into interpreting it to their benifit.

When you REALLY start reading it......1000%

As I gave by example had the Bill of Rights been a document separated from the US Constitution I'd bet our world would be better.
 
Imo, the constitution and bill of rights could have been a little more detailed and discript. Its just vague enough that the powers that be can weasel their way into interpreting it to their benifit.

Regardless it's still a genius document that could be a blueprint for a balanced functional government in any country.

Between the bill of rights, re affirmed by the federalist papers, shits pretty clear cut
 
When you REALLY start reading it......1000%

As I gave by example had the Bill of Rights been a document separated from the US Constitution I'd bet our world would be better.

Bill of rights, from my understanding was a requirement from the southern states who knew the federalist north wasn’t to be trusted, they wanted, for lack of a better term, to armor, the first 10A
 
One's perceive right to rule determines if you want to become a conquer of lands and people, if we believe in rights.....
 
It's fun to discuss all the jargon, the history, etc.

Now let's discuss the practical impacts. Maybe like all the democracy that the US has spread in the past 30 years?
 
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"Global Bases As the Basis of Empire

NATO currently includes 28 member states, including 10 former Soviet Republics and Warsaw Pact countries. Prospective new candidates include Georgia, Ukraine, Croatia, Albania and Macedonia and potentially others later to more tightly encircle Russia......

The Pentagon has hundreds of bases globally, 1000 or more by some estimates, including secret and shared ones for greater control - at a time when no nation threatens America yet trillions of dollars are spent anyway and over time may bankrupt the nation.

In recent years, it's become clear that America seeks more than the strategic control of resources. It wants global dominance, without challenge, by political, economic and military means. In other words, "full spectrum dominance" to become master of the universe."





and if you think these people care about you, the American citizen or the American Bill of Rights, you are wrong. they care about power and control only.
 
Bill of rights, from my understanding was a requirement from the southern states who knew the federalist north wasn’t to be trusted, they wanted, for lack of a better term, to armor, the first 10A


You really need to figure it out....better get those history books back out so you can learn who did what and for what reason.
 
You give the comment "requirement from the southern states".....That's wrong.
 
Between the bill of rights, re affirmed by the federalist papers, shits pretty clear cut
The Marx-Leninist supreme court justice RBG spoke for all the neobolsheviks, Deepstaters and NWO bastards she said "I would not look to the U.S. Constitution, if I were drafting a Constitution in the year 2012. I might look at the Constitution of South Africa"
 

Yea....they penned articles for print under anonymous names. Hence no different these days when "experts"/"politicians" writing OpEds for a given position on a topic of the society.