I've been reading a lot about the efficacy of CHLOROQUINE in treating Coronavirus!

[Xshot]

It's used primarily to prevent/treat malaria and it's been used since the late 1930's. The drug is plentiful worldwide and in expensive.

It has been used to treat critical Coronavirus patients in France, NY and Ca with no deaths reported and vast improvement in recipients.

Let's see how badly the FDA, MSM and the PTB can screw this up.

 

[Corprin]

It's used primarily to prevent/treat malaria and it's been used since the late 1930's. The drug is plentiful worldwide and in expensive.

It has been used to treat critical Coronavirus patients in France, NY and Ca with no deaths reported and vast improvement in recipients.

Let's see how badly the FDA, MSM and the PTB can screw this up.

FDA nothing, it’s readily available to our docs.

UMN announced Tuesday they are seeking volunteers for clinical trials.

COVID-19 Clinical Trial Launches at University of Minnesota

The University of Minnesota today is launching a clinical trial on a post-exposure treatment for coronavirus COVID-19 disease.

med.umn.edu

 

[hlee]

Correlation is not causation. Malaria is caused by a protozoan, while corona virus is, a virus. While it is not outside the realm of possibility that this chemical has an effect on CV, the observed positive outcomes could well be coincidental.

 

[Xshot]

FDA nothing, it’s readily available to our docs.

UMN announced Tuesday they are seeking volunteers for clinical trials.

COVID-19 Clinical Trial Launches at University of Minnesota

The University of Minnesota today is launching a clinical trial on a post-exposure treatment for coronavirus COVID-19 disease.

med.umn.edu

Yes, it's being prescribed off label under FDA compassionate use guidelines. The FDA could to much better if it wanted to.

 

[Corprin]

Yes, it's being prescribed off label under FDA compassionate use guidelines. The FDA could to much better if it wanted to.

Point is, there is no pesky FDA loopholes to really jump through to get green lighted.

@hlee very true. There was positive indications in lab testing for post exposure treatment. And now they are starting human trials. The trials of the same drug in Europe and Asia are showing good numbers. Could be a cheap stop-gap till more effective methods are available.

I’m not a immunologist, nor a virologist, but I know a guy.

 

[Xshot]

Just heard on Fox news that when chloroquine was prescribed along with Azithromycin to critical Coronavirus patients in Australia, China and France the everyone recovers within 6 days - no deaths.

 

[Xshot]

Point is, there is no pesky FDA loopholes to really jump through to get green lighted.

@hlee very true. There was positive indications in lab testing for post exposure treatment. And now they are starting human trials. The trials of the same drug in Europe and Asia are showing good numbers. Could be a cheap stop-gap till more effective methods are available.

I’m not a immunologist, nor a virologist, but I know a guy.

Time will tell the full story.

 

[Son of Dorn]

Correlation is not causation. Malaria is caused by a protozoan, while corona virus is, a virus. While it is not outside the realm of possibility that this chemical has an effect on CV, the observed positive outcomes could well be coincidental.

That's what I've been wondering. Malaria's a parasitic critter in the bloodstream, not a... whatever-the-hell-a-virus-is in the lungs. I suppose it's not impossible that a drug for the one can have an effect on the other but seems a bit of a stretch.

 

[jinxx4ever]

This virus is coming to a quick end. This treatment does not need FDA approval. In 2018 Trump signed the right to drug usage or something like that. It basically said if there was a drug that could possibly be used to make u better, u could use it. I'm sure someone is going to jump on here and explain it better than me. Otherwise i'll look it up tomorrow and post an explanation. Time to retire, snowing and supposed to be sustained straight line winds of 50mph till morning. Could b a shit show. I-80 was shut down 3 hours ago from at Big Springs , NE , and highway 30 in western Nebraska is shut down also.

 

[Corprin]

Time will tell the full story.

That’s the full story. Two FDA approved drugs being tested.

Malaria med has antiviral property, and has a protein blocker that helps with the respiratory inflammation.

HTN medication that blocks the enzyme thought to be used by COVID-19 to attach itself to the host cells before infiltration.

Like I said, I’m not smart on all this, friend is though.

That's what I've been wondering. Malaria's a parasitic critter in the bloodstream, not a... whatever-the-hell-a-virus-is in the lungs. I suppose it's not impossible that a drug for the one can have an effect on the other but seems a bit of a stretch.

Yes they are very different little bastards, but their makeup isn’t all that different.

Quinine does an amazing job at dealing with malaria.. and it makes my Bombay Tonic not only glow in black light, but taste amazing with a twist of lime ?

They start testing mefloquine, I’m tipping right the fuck out. I’m not waking up naked in the street because I was chasing the evil fern monster from Nimbus 3.

































...again

 

[hlee]

Azithromycin? That’s an antibacterial. Physicians are treating secondary infections- at best- with antibiotics. At worst, they’re reducing the overall effectiveness of antibiotics by prescribing them for viral infections. That said, if CV makes you succeptible to bacterial pneumonia, “there’s a there there.” But, it is reminiscent of when I was a kid and got taken to the GP for a cold. He prescribed amoxicillin for everything. I’m still not convinced amoxicillin isn’t physician speak for sugar pills. Never did anything. Of course, I had to grow up to learn that rhinoviruses cause the common cold, and amoxicillin is an antibacterial drug.

Has any one else heard the clamor from the talking heads about how “there’s no antibiotic for CV?” Well, no fucking shit. Antibiotics work on bacteria- not viruses. There’s no antibiotic for polio, or the flu, or measles, or chicken pox either. But, there are effective treatments for all of them. When you see the media wring their hands about there not being an antibiotic, that’s what I define as fake news. It is true, but it is not news. It’s filler, fluff, like them saying “um” for 20 minutes, because they don’t have anything of actual use to say.

The above notwithstanding. Azithromycin will kick the shit out of most bacterial infections. I’ve taken it and it works, within the bounds of its design.

 

[Mr.BR]

Most of it it fake news but it definetly helps the manufacturers that conviniently jacked up the price for only 98% on January 23 .

''The drug, chloroquine, hasn’t yet been approved for treatment of Covid-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus.
While it’s been available for decades for malaria, it’s not clear whether it will work against the new illness. A March 10 review of existing research found that there’s little solid proof one way or the other.

“Normally the FDA would take a long time to approve something like that, and it’s -- it was approved very, very quickly and it’s now approved by prescription,” Trump said. BS

An FDA spokesperson said the drug had not been approved for use in Covid-19 patients. However, U.S. doctors are legally able to prescribe a drug for any illness or condition they think is medically appropriate.

January 23rd pharma jacked up the price for these same drugs some 98% to 7,66$ for 250g and 19,88$ for 500mg dose you can bet in anticipation of the payday that would roll their way a month or two later.


Gregory Poland is a professor of medicine and infectious diseases at the Mayo Clinic. He's the director of the Mayo Clinic's Vaccine research group.
"I would urge us to take these with a grain of salt," he tells Inverse regarding the hype around chloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19. "Until randomized clinical trials are published we can't tell if it's anecdote. Is it due to some unforeseen or improbable set of circumstances?"
"The medical literature is littered with tens of thousands of case reports like this where there is a claim of efficacy only to fall apart when randomized clinical trials are done."

The 'anecdote' is beiing pedled by a lawyer Gregory Rigano that is busy runing his mouth at Fox News about chloroquine as a COVID-19 treatment.

 

[pmclaine]

Effective or not who cares.

A placebo for a pandemic so far (fortunately) turning out to be more deadly via our response to it than the actual virus.

Met a chick yesterday that just got laid off from one of her two jobs. She doesnt know how she will pay her bills.

Her comment.........She is more worried about her financial situation than the virus.

I think a great many will be joining her.

When this is all said and done they will be expecting justification.

 

[Centuriator]

This virus is coming to a quick end. This treatment does not need FDA approval. In 2018 Trump signed the right to drug usage or something like that.

 

[Centuriator]

Most of it it fake news but it definetly helps the manufacturers that conviniently jacked up the price for only 98% on January 23 .

''The drug, chloroquine, hasn’t yet been approved for treatment of Covid-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus.
While it’s been available for decades for malaria, it’s not clear whether it will work against the new illness. A March 10 review of existing research found that there’s little solid proof one way or the other.

“Normally the FDA would take a long time to approve something like that, and it’s -- it was approved very, very quickly and it’s now approved by prescription,” Trump said. BS

An FDA spokesperson said the drug had not been approved for use in Covid-19 patients. However, U.S. doctors are legally able to prescribe a drug for any illness or condition they think is medically appropriate.

January 23rd pharma jacked up the price for these same drugs some 98% to 7,66$ for 250g and 19,88$ for 500mg dose you can bet in anticipation of the payday that would roll their way a month or two later.


Gregory Poland is a professor of medicine and infectious diseases at the Mayo Clinic. He's the director of the Mayo Clinic's Vaccine research group.
"I would urge us to take these with a grain of salt," he tells Inverse regarding the hype around chloroquine as a treatment for COVID-19. "Until randomized clinical trials are published we can't tell if it's anecdote. Is it due to some unforeseen or improbable set of circumstances?"
"The medical literature is littered with tens of thousands of case reports like this where there is a claim of efficacy only to fall apart when randomized clinical trials are done."

The 'anecdote' is beiing pedled by a lawyer Gregory Rigano that is busy runing his mouth at Fox News about chloroquine as a COVID-19 treatment.

You can NOT trust what Trump says...he speaks off the cuff, repeats things he heard or thinks he heard. Pay attention to Pence and his team of PROFESSIONALS who are managing this crisis. Trump needs to sit back, shut up, say as little as possible and let the grown ups handle this.

 

[HeavyAssault]

If you thin out your blood when drinking alcohol the virus can't live .....right??? So if I have any symptoms, just get hammered drunk????

 

[Corprin]

If you thin out your blood when drinking alcohol the virus can't live .....right??? So if I have any symptoms, just get hammered drunk????

Huh?

 

[pmclaine]

You can NOT trust what Trump says...he speaks off the cuff, repeats things he heard or thinks he heard. Pay attention to Pence and his team of PROFESSIONALS who are managing this crisis. Trump needs to sit back, shut up, say as little as possible and let the grown ups handle this.

BS.

He spoke of using CQ and immediately was hailed a liar "Oh its not approved!, Trump lied."

Yet here we are using CQ.

Every day we are getting information via direct questioning.

Sure most of the questions are posed with the intent to trap the guy but still he is up there taking the blows and over time despite the initial outrage his decisions are proving sound.

Not sure the bailouts and free money are a good idea but let me look at a big picture.

A. We had a much needed stock correction based primarily on factors other than actual economic weakness. In fact its an over correction.

B. Coronavirus is fizzling. Now that testing is available the numbers are going to explode but it doesnt seem (thankfully) the body count will match.

With the stimulus, pent up demand, peoples desire to party when this is all said and done.....the economy will be ripe to explode.

 

[Centuriator]

LifeTime Fitness put out an announcement that if you raise your core body temperature to 102 for a while you will kill off viruses in your blood. They suggested spending 15 minutes in a very hot, hot tub. Which led me to wonder...ok...but what about everything else in your bloodstream?

Note: Do not take medical advice from non-medicos.

 

[pmclaine]

Anyone answer for me why NBA guys with no symptoms can get CV tests but some citizen walks into the hospital hacking up a lung cant?

Oh wait, I know why.

 

[MotorOilMcCall]

No one seems to be talking about the side effects of these anti-malaria drugs, with the exception of @Corprin... These things aren't something to mess with lightly. There was a huge lawsuit just a few years ago targeted at service members/vets who experienced permanent mental effects from these drugs:

• sudden headache, ringing in your ears, dizziness, loss of balance, or problems with coordination;
• severe anxiety, depression;
• paranoia, hallucinations;
• confusion, unusual behavior;

If I had mild to moderate CV symptoms, and had to be hospitalized, I'd refuse these drugs until the minute I was told I had to be intubated and hooked to a ventilator, then, bring it on... the headaches, tinnitus, and dizziness sounds like a normal hangover, and those suck enough when they're temporary... the rest of it would suck too... though at this point, the hallucinations might help entertain me during this quarantine...

 

[Centuriator]

Coronavirus is fizzling....

 

[pmclaine]

We will see.........

 

[brianf]

off label use of drugs has almost always been allowed, but there are restrictions

malpractice insurance
hospital regulations
health insurance regulations
FDA regulations

a properly licensed doctor can and does prescribe many current drugs for off label use on a daily basis, because they are still in decision territory
mainly because it takes a huge amount of time and research for the "new use" to become normalized

Ex:

this new wonder drug that had been around for decades

how many studies have been researched with patients that take viagra (for instance), viagra is a "newish" drug.

what happens when we dump this product on the population of the world and 2 or 3 people who have also taken viagra in the last month die...

if a wife or husband dies the family will want restitution

"My husband Charles died because of this drug that was pushed on us by the government and the manufacturer said it wasnt designed for Covid-19, how do i know he wouldnt still be alive if he didnt take it...

who goes to jail, who gets sued?

that is why our FDA takes so long to get things through the pipeline, some good some bad

but because they are over precautions we dont have as many adverse reactions with mixing drugs

how many commercials are for class action law suits for drugs taken properly or improperly over the last 30 years

what manufacturer wants to go out of business 5 years from now because the govt wants to use their drug but will not protect them on the back end?

all that aside the FDA is a needed pain in the ass but they go by the numbers

and no i didnt sleep in a holiday inn, i deal with the FDA on a daily basis...so i hate them more than most lol

 

[diverdon]

It's used primarily to prevent/treat malaria and it's been used since the late 1930's. The drug is plentiful worldwide and in expensive.

It has been used to treat critical Coronavirus patients in France, NY and Ca with no deaths reported and vast improvement in recipients.

Let's see how badly the FDA, MSM and the PTB can screw this up.

Don't worry by the time you or I need it PRC will be witholding supplies, and giggling "dirty American you die now."