I meant "and still have manual gain."
Night Vision J-FB Fusion Binocular Review
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Visir is the usa rep so I'd contact them. Custom night vision does offer manual gain 1431s. This housing also comes with wires for soldering to the board and pig tails, but that'd be something I'd say is at your own risk unless a dealer tackles it.
Just got my set today. Excited for nightfall.
Thanks to Ben/Kosher/Custom NV!
I also have the monocular version — Jerry-F — with 2800 FOM L3 WP tube as well as the Jerry-CE5 640px Clip-on. Will be interesting to compare the three, and then compare to some unobtanium US current-issue fusion units.
Thanks to Ben/Kosher/Custom NV!
I also have the monocular version — Jerry-F — with 2800 FOM L3 WP tube as well as the Jerry-CE5 640px Clip-on. Will be interesting to compare the three, and then compare to some unobtanium US current-issue fusion units.
@TheHorta ’s silence can only mean one of two things. Either he’s so blown away he’s still wandering the woods on his 4th or 5th set of batteries by now, or those dang Chinese really put white phosphorous tubes in there and he’s blind forever (good luck spell checking speech text with no eyes)
I’ve only had time to tinker with them for about 30 minutes thusfar. I’m talking with Zinny who has extensive experience on them to see if I’m getting the best performance out of them.
The Chynah WP i2 tube performance isn’t bad. Certainly not up to L3 WP levels, but I’d subjectively guess somewhere in the ~1500 FOM range — Omni 4/5 spec, give or take. Very usable, but falls maybe 20% shy of Photonis Echo performance.
The thermal is what I need help with. It works great, but I’m not happy with how it “fuses” with the i2 image. It could easily be my ignorance of settings and adjustments (and there are MANY), but the thermal image AGC can easily overpower the i2 image depending upon what you’re looking at. The Jerry-F monocular has a myriad of settings as well, and I did *NOT* like the F when I first got it, but now that I have a boatload of time on it I was able to get it dialed in and it has really grown on me. I figured the FJB would be the same, just with dual tubes, but I was wrong. It’s a completely different animal. Virtually zero crossover in menus and settings.
I’m hoping I’ll have a similar experience with the FJB after I get to know her more.
The Chynah WP i2 tube performance isn’t bad. Certainly not up to L3 WP levels, but I’d subjectively guess somewhere in the ~1500 FOM range — Omni 4/5 spec, give or take. Very usable, but falls maybe 20% shy of Photonis Echo performance.
The thermal is what I need help with. It works great, but I’m not happy with how it “fuses” with the i2 image. It could easily be my ignorance of settings and adjustments (and there are MANY), but the thermal image AGC can easily overpower the i2 image depending upon what you’re looking at. The Jerry-F monocular has a myriad of settings as well, and I did *NOT* like the F when I first got it, but now that I have a boatload of time on it I was able to get it dialed in and it has really grown on me. I figured the FJB would be the same, just with dual tubes, but I was wrong. It’s a completely different animal. Virtually zero crossover in menus and settings.
I’m hoping I’ll have a similar experience with the FJB after I get to know her more.
Kosher/Custom NV has them for sale, I believe. If you want legit thermal fusion bino NV, this is the only way. The Chincom tubes are surprisingly good. I was expecting Gen2 level performance, but they are very similar to Photonis Echo performance, if not identical. Very solid.
The fusion works very well, but my eyeballs aren’t entirely happy with how the image fuses. I prefer the monocular version Jerry-F better in that regard.
For the money, they’re impossible to beat. But the thermal isn’t as good as a standalone RH25 or something dedicated. That said, I’m not really happy with a $35K set of L3 ENVG-B’s either, so it could just be my expectations. Nothing still comes close to the fusion on my ENVG-III’s.
The fusion works very well, but my eyeballs aren’t entirely happy with how the image fuses. I prefer the monocular version Jerry-F better in that regard.
For the money, they’re impossible to beat. But the thermal isn’t as good as a standalone RH25 or something dedicated. That said, I’m not really happy with a $35K set of L3 ENVG-B’s either, so it could just be my expectations. Nothing still comes close to the fusion on my ENVG-III’s.
So ballin with a PVS 7D Omni 7 Tube with a Pas 29 slapped on it really ain't as sucky as it sounds.
Basically a Ford Pinto with a 289 small block slapped in it.
That baby will run a hell of a 1/4, just doesn't look real cool.
Least that's what the Kool Kids say.
But what do they really know.
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I thought the Jerry was just a housing and you could slap Photonis 3-pad tubes in it, I didn’t realize they were coming with some kind of Chinese tubes in them. Frankly rather have it without although it seems Photonis tubes are kinda hard to come by right now. How do you think they would perform with L3s if I gave up the manual gain?
It sucks that this is the only real commercial option right now. I’m on the preorder list for a new Safran TAD but it’d be nice to have real domestically-produced fusion systems available to normal people.
It sucks that this is the only real commercial option right now. I’m on the preorder list for a new Safran TAD but it’d be nice to have real domestically-produced fusion systems available to normal people.
Yeah, I'd be suspect on them Sum Ting Wong Toobs.
Prolly got some secret menu in them that has Neckid Crackhead Porn in them filmed by Hunter that the Chinese can activate to distract Merican Patriots when the Chinese invade.
Prolly got some secret menu in them that has Neckid Crackhead Porn in them filmed by Hunter that the Chinese can activate to distract Merican Patriots when the Chinese invade.
Hmmm, 6 year old plus technology and system, still performing better than current offerings.
A testament to people who know what they are doing.
Also a testament to people who get Uncle Sam funding. Making a commercial fusion system must be hard as fuck because even at a reasonable $20k price tag you aren't gonna sell a shit-ton of them, there aren't THAT many civilians crazy like us who want to drop new car money on a helmet setup. 
The obvious best answer is for L3 or Elbit to start selling small numbers of systems to the civilian side like they do with 31As, tubes, etc. They've already been reimbursed for the R&D so any civilian sales they get are just icing on the tax money cake they already have.
The obvious best answer is for L3 or Elbit to start selling small numbers of systems to the civilian side like they do with 31As, tubes, etc. They've already been reimbursed for the R&D so any civilian sales they get are just icing on the tax money cake they already have.
Has anyone here run these with L3 tubes?
bump for a +1
see custom night vision’s selling them with L3 tubes, and at $13K for the top end, this is very tempting.
Jerry FB Fusion Binocular System - Night Vision + 12um 640 Thermal - Custom Night Vision
The Jerry FB (Fusion Binocular) is a binocular night vision device combining the best features of both worlds in one device using analog residual light amplifiers and a digital thermal imaging sensor. It is equipped with a new generation of night vision fusion technology, in which...
www.customnightvision.com …also, I have no idea how the glass is attached, but since these accept standard sized tubes, I wonder if installing RPO lenses may also be an option. Will drop a line to CNV, or maybe even try to call them mañana.
Bump …. Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
@CustomNightVision I see these available on y’all’s site with L3 tubes. Is RPO glass also an option?
@CustomNightVision I see these available on y’all’s site with L3 tubes. Is RPO glass also an option?
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