J.S.T.M. 23 Jan 10 AAR

J.Boyette

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    Ok, first off I want to thank Glen for letting us play on his family farm, next I want to thank all of you for coming out.

    Background to J.S.T.M.:

    The main two goals of the Juniper Swamp Tactical Matches are the following:
    1. To have a gathering of like minded people and to share knowledge, TTP’s and mindset over a fun day of shooting.
    2. To introduce Like minded shooters to Individual Marksmanship Training LLC and it’s staff to hopefully grow training classes for people that need them.

    I feel that the J.S.T.M. does the two main goals very well.
    Planning of J.S.T.M.:

    The goal for this match was to kill a lot of the down time by running two separate teams so we could cover more shooting events at once. Also to test different positions and target packages wile keeping the overall day rolling as good as we could. On side goal was not to repeat the same training drills on the Nov 09 J.S.T.M.

    Execution:

    At the start, we separated the shooters by skill set and buddy aid. Once done I broke the gartering of shooters in to two groups. Once that was done Glen and I took control of our groups.

    The C.O.F. was as follows:
    1. CBS 600yds
    2. Angle Mechanical offset
    3. Urban Sniper Hide
    4. Barn shot
    5. Tree shot
    6. Bench shot
    7. Truck shot
    8. Switch back
    9. Position Check
    10. KYL

    These ten events were to test a well rounded shooter. I would say, if you shot this match and where weak in the fundamentals of marksmanship it showed up REAL fast in the start of the day.

    The shooting Drills:

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    The <span style="font-weight: bold">CBS Shot at 600yds</span> is a true test of your ability to know your rifle. To gain a single round hit on a 2 MOA plate of steel is a test of your ability as a rifleman.

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    The <span style="font-weight: bold">Angle Mechanical Offset</span> was added due to the fact you go from 600yds to 7yds aiming down hill. The main test here was to see if the shooter reset his riflescope to ZERO and knows the hold off for such a close shot.

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    We all know that an <span style="font-weight: bold">urban sniper hide</span> is not done off a window frame, but it’s a competition not training right? This drill was to get people to focus on the target, no matter how small it is. This plate rack was 2”, 3” and 4” steel floppers at about 150yds or so. You had to place 1 round per plate.

    At this time is when we went to separate groups Glens and mine.

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    I took my team to the <span style="font-weight: bold">tree shot</span>, in the process of last weekend the tree was cut down. So it turned in to a dirt mound shot. No worries. The shooter had to fire 5 rounds about 175yds in a 1.5 MOA target dot worth 2 pts. The center white dot was worth 10pts but was .308” large. Once done here Glen and I swapped locations and went to the Barn shot.

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    The <span style="font-weight: bold">barn shot</span> was a prone 175yd 6rnd shot on the 2”, 3” and 4” steel floppers just over the rise of the farm land. This shot was done inside a old barn with a wood floor. Some people have rifles bouncing all over the place due to poor recoil management and a hard shooting platform.

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    The next event I took my team was to the <span style="font-weight: bold">truck shot</span>. The idea of this shot, in design was GREAT. IN doing it, not so much. I started with a barricade, the barricade failed, so I used my truck. Next the target failed 5 times until I added a 12”x18” steel plate to keep it in the ground. So my group did not have a smooth event unlike Glens team. The lay of the farm on this event was curved. So the target was hard to see and hit on the backside of the hill. If you did not aim into the hill where you think the target is, you missed.

    The <span style="font-weight: bold"> Bench shot</span> was next, and I did not do this one. Glen kept my team and I took his team to the truck shot. Glens team had a VERY smooth event at the truck shoot do to the target getting fixed.

    <span style="font-weight: bold">Switch Back</span> is a event I love. Basically this is how it goes. I place five shooters down on the ground. Down range is x amount of targets all at unknown distance. I kick your foot and call a color / number and you shoot that target with in a VERY short time frame. You do this for five rounds. I think everyone enjoyed this event due to it being a lot of fun and not a standard square range drill.

    <span style="font-weight: bold"> Position Check </span> is a old LEO Sniper drill at X distance you have five dots, the shooter places four rounds on a table, goes to the firing line, shoots one round. Then gets up and recovers there 2nd round and shoots the next dot. We do this until all five rounds are shot.

    <span style="font-weight: bold">K.Y.L.</span> Glen and I thought this was a easy collection of points. The shooters had all day to get the rifles shooting and had all day to get ready for this. So we set this up at 400yds with the following steel floppers. 2”, 3”, 4” and 6”. I did not run this event but looking at the score cards, it was a hard event to shoot.

    After thoughts:

    Looking back at the Jan 10 J.S.T.M., Glen and I covered every training point except offhand, roll over prone and moving targets. I do feel that most of the shooters where not ready for this level of skill sets. I think I placed a lot of new shooters in the deep end of the pool and took away there floaters. But that’s a good thing right? I could see a major improvement to BobinNC’s score from the Nov 09 match to this match. BobinNC came to a class in DEC 09 and it paid off for him in a BIG WAY!!!

    I know Glen and I will continue to run these matches and I hope you all continue to come. Please add your AAR to this.

    John
     
    Re: J.S.T.M. 23 Jan 10 AAR

    John,

    I just read the scores, and I know there must be some mistake: From DFL in November, to 3rd in Jan????

    In any event, no matter what my final score was: my comfort level, awareness, ability to master shooting positions, and general application of sound principles; is due in no small measure to the 2 day LMT training I received from you.

    If I could have avoided my total brain fart, on the last evolution I might have given the USMC and The Army a run.

    But that is exactly what Glenn and you strive when you design a course of fire: You make us: Think, Adapt and Execute.

    I failed to think, therefore, my adaptation and execution of the problem was a fail.

    Again great targets, challenging to all. Looking forward to doing it all again next time.

    Many thanks,

    Bob
     
    Re: J.S.T.M. 23 Jan 10 AAR

    John,

    Great over all time this weekend. I am extremely glad that Jon missed that last shot in the shootout or we would still be hammering away at the target right, my dope was on and i have no doubt if he got his on, it would still be going. Overall the COF was very challenging and it shows, that the top 3 shooters only scored around 50% of the total points allowed. Switchback was a great event, Brandy is still talkin about it right now as i type this. There was a little lag time that made it kinda slow, but sometimes it cannot be avoided...If next time you want to run more than 2 groups id be happy to leave the rifle at home and help RSO and run a group. Just let me know. Other than that it was a very well thought out and executed match...Thanks to both you and Glenn for the good times yet again.


    PS
    I wish some one would have gotten a picture of the flame that the 19 inch tube was throwing out...It looked wicked in my scope
     
    Re: J.S.T.M. 23 Jan 10 AAR

    Austin ,
    yours definitely was a larger more impressive yellow teardrop shape flash, his was a more subdued orangeish flash more of a balloon shape
     
    Re: J.S.T.M. 23 Jan 10 AAR

    Ladies and Gents,

    As one of the few spectators of the match, my observations may be a bit different from yours. I loved the idea of the CBS at 600 yards to start, followed by a point blank shot. I also liked the drill where John was calling out the targets and the shooter had to immediately engage it.

    The only suggestion I would have is a few more targets at 500 yards or so, simply because a lot of people don't get the chance to shoot at that range. Then again, hitting a 4" disk at 240m isn't too easy either.

    Can't wait to get my rig and come out and shoot next time. Thanks Glenn and John for all your hard work. Cheers.

    Justin
     
    Re: J.S.T.M. 23 Jan 10 AAR

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J.Boyette</div><div class="ubbcode-body">BobinNC,

    That score is right. You came in third.

    Congrats.

    John </div></div>

    Congrats from me as well Bob.

    Good shootin!
     
    Re: J.S.T.M. 23 Jan 10 AAR

    Looks like a great time!

    Having a regular match close by is a blessing (I love that we have one here), the skills needed and learned are just a whole different ballgame than square range stuff......
    A 50% hit ratio signifies a challenging yet doable COF.

    If the JSTM survives as a regular event I will definately have to talk my Dad in Apex into flying me out to visit him later this year!!!
     
    Re: J.S.T.M. 23 Jan 10 AAR

    sobr at the rate they are going now, they do seem to be a regular event on the horizon. John and Glenn will be trying to do one every 60-90 days, the COF will never be the same and you will always be challenged. You should come on out.
     
    Re: J.S.T.M. 23 Jan 10 AAR

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pacomdiver</div><div class="ubbcode-body">so whens the next match?</div></div>

    Ditto.

    Thanks again Glen and John.

    Congrats again Austin. sigh....
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    Re: J.S.T.M. 23 Jan 10 AAR

    Wow ... what a small world. I heard about this at a shoot in Lumberton, NC and thought I'd take a stab at it if I can get the rust knocked off. Cool. I'll watch for the next scheduled event. Even though I don't have a hi-speed lo-drag tactical stick I imagine it'd be a blast and I'd learn a ton!
     
    Re: J.S.T.M. 23 Jan 10 AAR

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: pacomdiver</div><div class="ubbcode-body">check out the shoot in elizabeth city, its under the post

    Pasquotank PR Shootout, Eliz City,NC MAY 22, 2010 </div></div>

    Will do. Thanks.