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Have to say it makes one wonder...
Glioblastoma. Dead in 12 months...
I like the guy as a person... Met him many times.
He should have retired in 2001....
Whatever he became, he put on a uniform and served... I will respect that.
Sirhr
I like the guy as a person... Met him many times.
He should have retired in 2001....
Whatever he became, he put on a uniform and served... I will respect that.
Sirhr
Not nice to talk about the dead, but dam he should have died when he got shot down or in one of his 3 crashes, or when the zuni rockets went off on the deck of the Hornet, or before he "turned" fkn communist informer in Hanoi hospital, singing in that hospital like Julie fkn Andrews with little to no coercion, actionable info too. That fk. He caused a lot of damage, that statist globalist bastard. I will be praying about him tonight though.
whatever, a big gray slow moving target. Thanks for the correction though 
Hopefully he'll actually retire from the Senate and we can get a decent Republican in and hopefully we never have to hear about anybody by the name of McCain ever again.
(one can hope).
(one can hope).
Word has it that the eternal flame on Ted Kennedy's gravesite is powered by residual Jameson Irish Whiskey fumes and that based on Kennedy's body mass and BAC at the time of his passing, the flame will burn, unimpeded, for at least 1800 years...
Now that fatbody I won't mourn... none of them.
Sirhr
Now that fatbody I won't mourn... none of them.
Sirhr
Dang. Tough crowd in the bear pit.
Like many of you, I have been disappointed with Senator McCain and his decisions for quite some time. That being said, I wish the man no ill will. To be honest, I feel bad for him. There are not many "good ways to go", but a malignant brain tumor CERTAINLY isn't one of the "good ways".
Like many of you, I have been disappointed with Senator McCain and his decisions for quite some time. That being said, I wish the man no ill will. To be honest, I feel bad for him. There are not many "good ways to go", but a malignant brain tumor CERTAINLY isn't one of the "good ways".
Fat Ted was a Chivas Regal man.
He liked to keep his swim goggles in the purple felt bag at the ready.
Chivas Regal? The "purple felt bag" is a Crown Royal thing.....
And regarding the Glio,,,,, our world just lost an incredible member/supporter/soldier to a Glio that he'd fought for around/over 3 years. Some of you reading this will know of whom I'm speaking. Here's a hint:
"Goodies For Grunts"
The originator of said Blessings......
And regarding the Glio,,,,, our world just lost an incredible member/supporter/soldier to a Glio that he'd fought for around/over 3 years. Some of you reading this will know of whom I'm speaking. Here's a hint:
"Goodies For Grunts"
The originator of said Blessings......
Sad to see the way we treat Combat Veterans and POW's here.
Having been through but a small portion of the shit he's weathered, I'd say he's earned a bit of slack, but others here seem to believe its OK to piss down on JM from their exalted positions.
I might also point out that he has received the majority of votes from his constituents for past decades, so their voices here are minority ones. Some of you are so incredibly negative as to appear deranged.
At least he has a legitimate excuse. I know a little bit about cancer myself, and I'm glad he's made it this far, and myself as well. Local reporting this AM claims that brain scans indicate that they got all of it. They also say there is no "cure" for Glioblastoma, it's so rare. No talk yet about political ramifications, but if he needs replacing, Gov. Ducey will appoint one, and it's pretty assured it would be a Republican.
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Shame on you for kicking a legitimate war hero when he's down and fading, and parroting the Leftist Trash that has been hurled at him incessantly by politically motivated operatives.
Perhaps some of those who think he's such a fair target would like to see his most recent opponent holding down the position he currently occupies. I would not. He's my Senator, and I'm glad it's him and not the Pelosi Suck-ups we've been seeing pitted against him.
But what do I know...?
Greg Langelius
Having been through but a small portion of the shit he's weathered, I'd say he's earned a bit of slack, but others here seem to believe its OK to piss down on JM from their exalted positions.
I might also point out that he has received the majority of votes from his constituents for past decades, so their voices here are minority ones. Some of you are so incredibly negative as to appear deranged.
At least he has a legitimate excuse. I know a little bit about cancer myself, and I'm glad he's made it this far, and myself as well. Local reporting this AM claims that brain scans indicate that they got all of it. They also say there is no "cure" for Glioblastoma, it's so rare. No talk yet about political ramifications, but if he needs replacing, Gov. Ducey will appoint one, and it's pretty assured it would be a Republican.
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Shame on you for kicking a legitimate war hero when he's down and fading, and parroting the Leftist Trash that has been hurled at him incessantly by politically motivated operatives.
Perhaps some of those who think he's such a fair target would like to see his most recent opponent holding down the position he currently occupies. I would not. He's my Senator, and I'm glad it's him and not the Pelosi Suck-ups we've been seeing pitted against him.
But what do I know...?
Greg Langelius
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Just because he served and was a POW...doesn't mean he served honorably. Read up about his privileged naval career and all the times his big daddy Admiral flew top cover for him. I believe there's some controversy among his fellow POW's also. Not a fan .....and I covered a few of his frequent trips to Iraq. I'll be happy to see his seat go to someone who wants to fight the Dem/Lib socialist Nazi's instead of assist them. His part in the Russian Dossier hoax is disgusting. F this guy IMO.
I bet his daughter will take his spot..............
With all due respect to his Military career, he has spent many years pissing on it himself.
I'm not a member- duty, honor, courage are the traits that could have been utilized in the service as an elected official.
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I'm not a member- duty, honor, courage are the traits that could have been utilized in the service as an elected official.
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America 1 mccain nil. Die skeletor
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Jesus christ no more. We started this country to get away from royalty. No more bushes no more clintons kenndys and damn sure not that fat miss piggy cvnt
I can see that I'm dealing with a collection of stanch heroes whose daily mission is to right all the wrongs history has dealt us via the embodiment of John McCain. Flawless and unbesmirched, they enjoy the moral high ground; entitling them the enviable right to piss on the reputations of all those lesser men, such as John McCain.
I can't assail their right to be so infallibly critical.
But I have a few questions.
Did they serve with or without honor as POW's in North Vietnam?
Have they spent a day as a Senatorial incumbent?
Were they blessed or damned to be a Naval Combat Aviator, also the Son of a High Admiral?
I don't really see any evidence that any of these detractors have walked even a single step in JM's Moccasins.
But they all surely know his motivations and the most private stirrings of his heart.
I am impressed.
There will always be such as these, who talk the talk.
Walk the walk? Maybe.
I've spent over ten years in cancer treatment and followup. I have also incurred a significant heart condition that confines me to the house on days when the temps go over 90, all of these conditions as a direct consequence of my service. I didn't get to play touchy-feely with the NVA POW Guards up close, but I did get to see North Vietnam just about 20 miles up the coast from my duty station at Qua Viet.
I don't sleep great at night. It's the PTSD, but it's in good hands with the VA.
Of course, I didn't have to deal with five years of hostile interrogations and vicious disciplinary beatings. I didn't have to act in puppet plays in order to spare my fellow prisoners from insane and certain brutality. So maybe I might have a few more peculiarities that others jump on and make their bones over. If I had, I might be in some at least minor admiration of those who were forced to do so..
Does any of this give me the right to impugn JM's character?
Me, I don't think so, but go ahead, be the big men, do the sure thing. Get your mileage, get all you can out of it.
Now he's got a pretty serious medical diagnosis; and the same infallible critics have a new bone in their teeth. More power to them, they haven't missed step in their mission to bring him even further down.
Would that I had such friends as these.
A small point of note.
The Senate is a vicious place. You get there by tossing your hat into the ring and facing the jeers, time after time, like John McCain has been doing for the three decades since he assumed his seat in 1987. He has faced down Liberal hacks in a whole lot more than one election.
How many of his detractors can match that performance? Here, in Arizona, none.
But let's just imagine he lost that last one. Would any of us here be happily welcoming Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer into our midst? Be happy with what we have, and not so much about what might have been.
Even so, some of us here are never happy. Only the rightest of the right, the truest of the true, the fairest of the fair will do. Just like themselves.
I am proud to share this forum with such wonderful folks. I guess it's my turn in the crosshairs now.
Break time.
Greg
I can't assail their right to be so infallibly critical.
But I have a few questions.
Did they serve with or without honor as POW's in North Vietnam?
Have they spent a day as a Senatorial incumbent?
Were they blessed or damned to be a Naval Combat Aviator, also the Son of a High Admiral?
I don't really see any evidence that any of these detractors have walked even a single step in JM's Moccasins.
But they all surely know his motivations and the most private stirrings of his heart.
I am impressed.
There will always be such as these, who talk the talk.
Walk the walk? Maybe.
I've spent over ten years in cancer treatment and followup. I have also incurred a significant heart condition that confines me to the house on days when the temps go over 90, all of these conditions as a direct consequence of my service. I didn't get to play touchy-feely with the NVA POW Guards up close, but I did get to see North Vietnam just about 20 miles up the coast from my duty station at Qua Viet.
I don't sleep great at night. It's the PTSD, but it's in good hands with the VA.
Of course, I didn't have to deal with five years of hostile interrogations and vicious disciplinary beatings. I didn't have to act in puppet plays in order to spare my fellow prisoners from insane and certain brutality. So maybe I might have a few more peculiarities that others jump on and make their bones over. If I had, I might be in some at least minor admiration of those who were forced to do so..
Does any of this give me the right to impugn JM's character?
Me, I don't think so, but go ahead, be the big men, do the sure thing. Get your mileage, get all you can out of it.
Now he's got a pretty serious medical diagnosis; and the same infallible critics have a new bone in their teeth. More power to them, they haven't missed step in their mission to bring him even further down.
Would that I had such friends as these.
A small point of note.
The Senate is a vicious place. You get there by tossing your hat into the ring and facing the jeers, time after time, like John McCain has been doing for the three decades since he assumed his seat in 1987. He has faced down Liberal hacks in a whole lot more than one election.
How many of his detractors can match that performance? Here, in Arizona, none.
But let's just imagine he lost that last one. Would any of us here be happily welcoming Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer into our midst? Be happy with what we have, and not so much about what might have been.
Even so, some of us here are never happy. Only the rightest of the right, the truest of the true, the fairest of the fair will do. Just like themselves.
I am proud to share this forum with such wonderful folks. I guess it's my turn in the crosshairs now.
Break time.
Greg
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You are right.
My bad. I never sent my deceased, but likely well embalmed, senior senator a bottle at Christmas time.
Local radio commentator (Howard Lawrence Carr) has made it his lifes work to expose the Kennedys and he speaks often of Kennedys habit for Chivas.
God I hope not.
This idea of familial succession is why we had a Revolution.
Let her earn it if its meant to be hers.
My workout often coincides with Foxs Outnumbered and MM is not the deepest well on the Farm.
Sir, I defer to your experience....
Greg, focus on his service all you want, it's a tiny sliver of his life compared to his time in politics. Regardless of his honorable time while in uniform, it's no excuse for his crimes while in office. The guy has been on the wrong side of EVERY foreign policy question this nation has faced over the past 20 years, let alone his lip service to the Constitution. He loves perpetual war, the surveillance state, and has a demonstrated record for wiping his ass with the Constitution, particularly as it relates to the 4th Amendment. The damage he and his ilk have done to the Republic is mountainous when compared to his years in a cage in Hanoi. He lacked the simple decency to fade away quietly from politics as his faculties eroded, and ran for re-election with full knowledge of his failing health. As a lifelong member of the GOP, I am truly thankful that such a dangerous man never became president.
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I'm going to go out on a limb here, and make a statement. Take it for what it's worth.
Who can argue that not every employee is a stellar employee? Who can argue that not every LEO is a stellar LEO? Then in the same note, who can argue that not every soldier is a stellar soldier.
Do I have respect for 'all the above' in their given fields? Sure, and absolutely. But do I have respect for the detractors therein? Not a whit! And I think we'd all be hard-pressed to deny the same statement. There are good and bad all around. That statement goes for doctors and specialists alike.
From this Canuckian perspective, this McCain dolt is right up there with fonda, pelosi, and hilarious klingon. A definite detractor to all things AmeriYank if I've ever seen one.
Are they all loved and adored by their mothers, sure. Said mothers are somewhat obligated to. But are they loved and adored by Respectable People, (those decent, hard-working, diligent brethren of mine to the South) I think not! And yes Greg, you're listed in the latter group as well, no matter what you think of my pointedness. I remember you making paper airplanes during your 'low' time, and the what and why for it,,,, and that says a lot to me.
Nobody gave me a free pass.... for all that I've endured. I don't see why anyone should give the french-fry a free pass as well. (get it? McCain's french-fries....)
Who can argue that not every employee is a stellar employee? Who can argue that not every LEO is a stellar LEO? Then in the same note, who can argue that not every soldier is a stellar soldier.
Do I have respect for 'all the above' in their given fields? Sure, and absolutely. But do I have respect for the detractors therein? Not a whit! And I think we'd all be hard-pressed to deny the same statement. There are good and bad all around. That statement goes for doctors and specialists alike.
From this Canuckian perspective, this McCain dolt is right up there with fonda, pelosi, and hilarious klingon. A definite detractor to all things AmeriYank if I've ever seen one.
Are they all loved and adored by their mothers, sure. Said mothers are somewhat obligated to. But are they loved and adored by Respectable People, (those decent, hard-working, diligent brethren of mine to the South) I think not! And yes Greg, you're listed in the latter group as well, no matter what you think of my pointedness. I remember you making paper airplanes during your 'low' time, and the what and why for it,,,, and that says a lot to me.
Nobody gave me a free pass.... for all that I've endured. I don't see why anyone should give the french-fry a free pass as well. (get it? McCain's french-fries....)
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I was just going to hit like but your in box is full. While contemplating what to do i decided i would just be impressed if he gave Obama care a shot on this one.
My wife broke her back in the sandbox. She was medivaced to Walter Reed via Germany. She needed to have surgery to rebuilt her back between her shoulder blades, as spine was stretched almost to the breaking point. I told the army to pound sand they weren't touching her. Then the VA wanted to do it. No way in Hell,.
They discharged her and I took her to Minn-St Paul where I was told were the best spin surgeons in the world. I dont know if thats true or no, but they fixed her. The Army and VA both said she would be in a wheel chair. She isnt. Though she has three rods between her shoulder blades, she's doing good.
This was all done at zero tax payer expense.
I wont fault any one for by passing the Military or VA to seek better care for their families.
I dont care who's in office, no one will fix the VA, the government has been screwing over Vets since the Revolutionary war. I don't see that changing in my life time. Its my job to seek the best for my wife, and I will what ever it takes.
While this discussion is getting somewhat afield, my own available VA health care facilities are in the Southern Arizona (Tucson and Sierra Vista) SAVAHCS group. We do a good bit better than average, and my fellow Veterans sometimes cringe at the thought of those other guys and gals having to use Phoenix. My community, roughly 80 miles out in the sticks from either facility is largely composed of retirees, and we have a lot of Veterans. We have a serious need for good health care at our age.
As I reviewed after I recently needed emergency care for a heart attack, I think I got excellent care at SAVAHCS. Not all Veterans have such good facilities available, and I know that because up until about a year ago, i was dealing with very good but not quite as great care at other VA facilities back East over the years since my first bout with Lymphoma back in the early to mid-90's. So I recognize the need for attention and review. Hey, I'm alive, and that represents a lot of good work since back in the 90's. I am embarking on a course of Cardiopulmonary rehab in the coming weeks, outside the VA system, but provided on their dime under the Veterans' Choice Program.
But I'm also the local VFW Post's Service Officer. I get to funnel Vets with health issues into the system, and to also help them find positive response for their compensation claims. So I need to have confidence in that system, and to communicate my own optimism to the Veterans I'm working with. Right now, I'm fortunate to be in an area here good care is the norm. I might not have been quite so optimistic back in the more heavily urban East. We all need to keep this system centered within our point of view, especially since it is a far better version of government health care than what our government is cramming down the throats of our civilian brethren.
For all its flaws, the VA system actually works pretty well, and I'm actually kinda proud that I have such good health care available to me.
There are better systems, and they are available to civilians (who can afford them). Senators can afford them; so I'm not knocking JM for taking advantage of them.
Sometimes I think we can all get a bit overly simplistic around here when we're piling on the criticism. You guys can be a really tough crowd. Sometimes I just get a little appalled at the intensity of the venom around here.
I'm definitely glad I'm not JM. But he's a politician, and that stuff goes with the territory.
I'm just cutting the guy some slack under his currently lousy circumstances, which is another reason I'm glad I'm not him.
Greg
As I reviewed after I recently needed emergency care for a heart attack, I think I got excellent care at SAVAHCS. Not all Veterans have such good facilities available, and I know that because up until about a year ago, i was dealing with very good but not quite as great care at other VA facilities back East over the years since my first bout with Lymphoma back in the early to mid-90's. So I recognize the need for attention and review. Hey, I'm alive, and that represents a lot of good work since back in the 90's. I am embarking on a course of Cardiopulmonary rehab in the coming weeks, outside the VA system, but provided on their dime under the Veterans' Choice Program.
But I'm also the local VFW Post's Service Officer. I get to funnel Vets with health issues into the system, and to also help them find positive response for their compensation claims. So I need to have confidence in that system, and to communicate my own optimism to the Veterans I'm working with. Right now, I'm fortunate to be in an area here good care is the norm. I might not have been quite so optimistic back in the more heavily urban East. We all need to keep this system centered within our point of view, especially since it is a far better version of government health care than what our government is cramming down the throats of our civilian brethren.
For all its flaws, the VA system actually works pretty well, and I'm actually kinda proud that I have such good health care available to me.
There are better systems, and they are available to civilians (who can afford them). Senators can afford them; so I'm not knocking JM for taking advantage of them.
Sometimes I think we can all get a bit overly simplistic around here when we're piling on the criticism. You guys can be a really tough crowd. Sometimes I just get a little appalled at the intensity of the venom around here.
I'm definitely glad I'm not JM. But he's a politician, and that stuff goes with the territory.
I'm just cutting the guy some slack under his currently lousy circumstances, which is another reason I'm glad I'm not him.
Greg
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he got it removed and he is feeling better now, i wonder why bad people live long.
...And still they beat the horse...
Saw McScam came out pro-tyranny today. He's a Dim in RINO clothing. I don't wish him pain, just wish he'd go away. It's too bad when real conservatives waste their time giving it s#it about what this guy thinks.
Given the events of the day, might that be an auto-correct version of "pro-tranny"? If so, I'm surprised, but not shocked.
True 'dat, mah bad 'fo not 'ketchin 'dat s#it. Thanks for keeping me honest.
So now McCain is pro-tranny in the military. I had not heard that until now. I can only shake my head in disgust. For the life of me I cannot understand why he calls himself a Republican. As I recall, he bitched similarly when Obama announced the change in policy to ALLOW transgenders to serve without notifying him of the change in advance. Now he's bitching about Trump changing it back without notifying him first. Is there a pattern here?
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when you have someone dying in the family because the gov cut off their care remember who did this.
Went all conservative last night didn't he.
Isn't Arizona one of those places in triple digit health care increases.
The only answer to health care is to get the government out of the market.
If the market can not cover existing conditions issues than that limited group, some smaller fraction of the market should have their privately purchased insurance supported by govt for that incremental amount to get their meds.
As far as illegals and non citizens being provided care - go shit in a hat.
If you are a heroin user than you only get the amount of free care that the tax payers provide to cancer sufferers and diabetics which in my understanding is none.
Isn't Arizona one of those places in triple digit health care increases.
The only answer to health care is to get the government out of the market.
If the market can not cover existing conditions issues than that limited group, some smaller fraction of the market should have their privately purchased insurance supported by govt for that incremental amount to get their meds.
As far as illegals and non citizens being provided care - go shit in a hat.
If you are a heroin user than you only get the amount of free care that the tax payers provide to cancer sufferers and diabetics which in my understanding is none.
Thing is he made a big show of it. The past couple days have been all about him.
The grand entrance, the BS speech, last night instead of sitting in his seat and voting like everyone else he walks into the pit and gives a dramatic thumbs down.
Oh he so wants to be the brain dead (too soon) Ted Kennedy that made such a show of voting for Obamacare when he had glioblastoma.
If guns cause violence than the Senate causes brain disease.
Brain cancer ? Go figure . Here I thought he had a severe case of over active cock holster .
