Joint Forces Command falls victim to Pentagon Cuts

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Joint Forces Command falls victim to Pentagon budget cuts
By Anne Flaherty and Anne Gearan
The Associated Press
Published: August 9, 2010

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. Defense Department plans to shed one of its 10 major military commands as Defense Secretary Robert Gates tries to pare billions of dollars from the Pentagon’s operating budget.

Gates on Monday announced he will eliminate Joint Forces Command, long a presumed target for belt-tightening, and also cut the Pentagon’s use of outside contractors by 10 percent next year.

“The culture of endless money that has taken hold must be replaced by a culture of savings and restraint,” Gates said.

He labeled the moves “an aggressive effort not only to reduce costs but also to transform the culture of this department … instilling habits of restraint, of subtracting as well as adding.”

He also proposed cutting at least 50 flag officer positions and more than 100 senior civilian jobs within the Defense Department, reducing service support contract funds by 10 percent each of the next three years, trimming money available for Pentagon studies by 25 percent, and implementing severe staffing cuts within the Office of the Secretary of Defense.

Joint Forces Command, with nearly 4,900 employees and annual salaries of more than $200 million, is the largest single cut announced Monday. The Virginia-based command trains troops from different services to fight together, and holds more than 1 million square feet of real estate in Suffolk, Va, and Norfolk, Va. However, savings will be offset by the cost of shifting some jobs and roles elsewhere.

The Pentagon already has announced a target of cutting $100 billion over five years. Gates this year ordered a top-to-bottom paring of the military bureaucracy in search of at least $10 billion in annual savings needed to prevent an erosion of U.S. combat power.

He took aim at what he called wasteful business practices and too many generals and admirals, and noted that “overhead” costs chew up as much as 40 percent of the Pentagon’s budget.

Big cuts are essential considering the U.S. economic recession and the likelihood that Congress no longer will give the Pentagon the sizable budget increases it has enjoyed since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, Gates and other defense leaders have said.

“The gusher has been turned off and will stay off for a good period of time,” Gates said in May.

The current defense budget, not counting the cost of fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, is $535 billion; the administration is asking for $549 billion for 2011.

Joint Forces Command, or JFCOM, is one of 10 full combatant commands. Most correspond to regions of the world, such as Pacific Command, but others are organized around a concept or mission rather than geography.

The command is headed by a four-star military officer, the highest grade currently in use. Marine Gen. James Mattis was its commander until named last month to replace Army Gen. David Petraeus as head of U.S. Central Command. His replacement will be Gen. Ray Odierno, now the war commander in Iraq. Odierno’s job will be to eliminate his own office, Gates said.

Gates said he expects the command to be closed within a year.

Sen. Mark Warner, Virginia junior senator and the state’s former governor, said he saw “no rational basis” for dismantling Joint Forces Command because its mission was to impose “greater cooperation and savings among the military services.”

“One thing I learned in the business world is you sometimes have to spend money to save money,” Warner said. “It’s a no-brainer that JFCOM is one of the commands that could use more resources.”

The plan Gates will outline is similar to one suggested last month by the Defense Business Board, a panel of company executives who advise the Pentagon. The board said Gates should cut the number of civilian employees by at least 15 percent. The panel also identified Joint Forces Command as contributing to much of the contractor bloat because it had more contractors than government employees on its payroll.

Stars and Stripes reporter Leo Shane III contributed to this report.
http://www.stripes.com/joint-forces-command-falls-victim-to-pentagon-budget-cuts-1.114014
 
Re: Joint Forces Command falls victim to Pentagon Cuts

Its great! They are cutting another 3,500 or more out of the Air Force this year then all of the contracts that they picked up after they booted the last round of like 5,000 are getting cut also... so we lose the active duty members and the contractor's... oh yay! The Air Force did make a great choice on a huge contract to PT test all of its members though... the govt could not run a damn local Chinese resteraunt let alone what they are given... ugh!
 
Re: Joint Forces Command falls victim to Pentagon Cuts

They did this with NASA after they neutered the manned lunar program.

When the time came for the space shuttle program to be initiated, there were no employees, graduates, or contractors with the intellectual or industrial capacity to undertake the project. Everything the lunar program had produced had been scrapped. It cost years, literally, simply to get back to where things were, and in fact they never actually achieved that.

Somebody needs to dig up Proxmire, he's needed badly.

Greg
 
Re: Joint Forces Command falls victim to Pentagon Cuts

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Greg Langelius *</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
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I'm glad someone besides me took note of that.
 
Re: Joint Forces Command falls victim to Pentagon Cuts

I'm trying to stay off the line where political begins. I do really hope I didn't cut it too close with that comment. There were other, more sensitive, words included in the original comment before I decided to tone it down.
 
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Well my bet is a certian group of people need to vote themselves another pay raise.
 
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You obviously never dealt with JFCOM. Jobs gone, yes. However, JFCOM is relatively new and was put in there to search for "efficiencies" within the services. NONE of my current military peers has ANYTHING GOOD to shay about them. As a major command it is totally useless. It was a solution in search of a problem...sorry to disagree with your NASA analogy, Greg. I thoroughly respect your opinions, but having seen what comes out (or doesn't) of that command it doesn't make any sense to keep a quarter billion dollar burden. This doesn't mean the joint concept is going out the window, you are going to see it picked up by all the joint officers at various commands throughout the DOD.

In the grand scheme of things, JFCOM didn't do much to validate their existence. If this had been an organization that changed the face of joint combat and shed light on numerous efficiencies they might have stood a better chance. As it is, they lacked in all those aspects.

This is my current military perspective. I agree we need some inspiration at the top, but this is far from a bad thing.

Josh
 
Re: Joint Forces Command falls victim to Pentagon Cuts

Long time coming. Good riddance.

Put the uniforms and dollars back into the war.

Sinister
Former J-3
Special Operations Command - Joint Forces Command
 
Re: Joint Forces Command falls victim to Pentagon Cuts

Look for massive continued cuts in the military. Social programs need to be paid for from somewhere. We will live to regret it, thst's all I will say.
 
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That would be nice but they are cutting those also! We have been cut to bare minimun which... I guess is fine we will make due but holy crap!!

It is funny because SecDef has a commercial on AFN that basically says something like even with all the cuts shutup and get your job done! Its a good one.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sinister</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Long time coming. Good riddance.

Put the uniforms and dollars back into the war.

Sinister
Former J-3
Special Operations Command - Joint Forces Command </div></div>
 
Re: Joint Forces Command falls victim to Pentagon Cuts

Bread and circuses while the barbarians gather at the borders...

Patricians and preatorians turn their gaze elsewhere...

The masses must be quelled...

The Legions return from the outlands, and are disbanded...

Everything looks to be running right according to a proven schedule, just not according to mine...

Can <span style="font-style: italic">you</span> say, "Dark Ages"?

Greg
 
Re: Joint Forces Command falls victim to Pentagon Cuts

'They' want money. 'They' are paying $19,000 a month retirement plans($228,000 a year) to how many of 'their' retired old members? One of 'them' is under scrutiny and very loudly proclaiming his innocense for something 'we' woud get jailed for or worse.
Do the math. Cutting the JFC isn't a big deal, it's a waste anyway. 'They' want real money to play with, cut 'their' retirement plan out. 435 people working partial years and receiving retirment pay for life, be real, cut deep
 
Re: Joint Forces Command falls victim to Pentagon Cuts

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">'They' want money. 'They' are paying $19,000 a month retirement plans($228,000 a year) to how many of 'their' retired old members? One of 'them' is under scrutiny and very loudly proclaiming his innocense for something 'we' woud get jailed for or worse.
Do the math. Cutting the JFC isn't a big deal, it's a waste anyway. 'They' want real money to play with, cut 'their' retirement plan out. 435 people working partial years and receiving retirment pay for life, be real, cut deep </div></div>

+1. I couldn't agree more.
 
Re: Joint Forces Command falls victim to Pentagon Cuts

This what happens when a marginal company is acquired in a takeover. The carcass is drained and gutted, then left for the scavengers. There's only scraps left to haggle over.

Greg
 
Re: Joint Forces Command falls victim to Pentagon Cuts

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Switchblade</div><div class="ubbcode-body">'They' want money. 'They' are paying $19,000 a month retirement plans($228,000 a year) to how many of 'their' retired old members? One of 'them' is under scrutiny and very loudly proclaiming his innocense for something 'we' woud get jailed for or worse.
Do the math. Cutting the JFC isn't a big deal, it's a waste anyway. 'They' want real money to play with, cut 'their' retirement plan out. 435 people working partial years and receiving retirment pay for life, be real, cut deep </div></div>

"They" work 2.5 days per week on average for that salary and benefits. No wonder people break their backs to get in there. Once in, set for life. 'Nuf said.