I hate to blunt but... buy a Steiner and run with it. I owned a Kahles and it took a shit on me the 2nd month of owning it. I called Ken with Khaybes who is the nicest guy ever and let's just say it snowballed from there. I sent my scope off in September and finally got it back the first time in November. During that time Ken gave me his personal scope to use which also had the same issue as mine. (erector issue) I sent his scope back and re mounted mine. Low and be hold they forgot to check the scope for parallax before it took the 5000 mile trip to Idaho. So... Back it went early December. I finally received my scope late January and sold it! This is food for thought on warranty issues. Comparing the two I honestly like the Steiner better. I'm able to spot hits on painted steel at distance better, the turrets have better feel IMO and if I had to bludgeon someone to death I'd get my scope back quicker than a Kahles.