Re: Kimber SVT 22lr Anyone had one? Good or bad?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sunnyside Scott</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">spot69221</span>Thanks for sharing,
I always love to see proof of how a rifle shoots. Not to dog on the people with alot of product knowlege, so many times I hear about how a rifle is capable of doing (this or that) "if I do my part" but they never really get around to posting groups. Thanks again, SScott </div></div>
Personally, I have become somewhat reluctant to post groups. Some reasons are (a) People will mistakenly call "BS" on the group(s). These people neither know me or have actual knowledge about company "x" or "y"; (b) The same people will often say <span style="font-style: italic">"Lets' see you do that in a match"</span>. We all know that tactical matches are <span style="font-style: italic">time-driven</span>, and the challenge is <span style="font-style: italic">to even hit the target</span> under time pressure, not shoot small groups. This is in direct contrast to trying to shoot small groups, which are typically shot at the shooter's leisure with more than a couple of seconds between each shot in a string.
However, for the purposes of proof of how a rifle shoots here are two photos I shot with my high-end, customized 10/22 (I don't have any photos I shot with any of my Kimbers, as these photos were taken to show people what a 10/22 can do, <span style="font-style: italic">when the right things are done to it</span>). There have been many posts about how <span style="font-style: italic">"By the time you get a 10/22 to shoot you could have just bought a .22 bolt, and the 10/22 will never shoot with a bolt .22"</span>.
Now, if we are talking about an <span style="font-style: italic">out-of-the-box</span> 10/22 and a decent bolt .22, I would tend to agree. The bolt .22 <span style="font-style: italic">should</span> be inherently more accurate and usually is.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Disclaimer:</span> I didn't build my MOA 10/22 to be the most accurate .22LR around, nor the most cost effective - <span style="font-style: italic">which it is definitely not</span>. I built it to complement my highly accurate bolt .22s, which happen to be Kimbers'. I think it shoots exceptionally well for a semi-auto .22LR and has met it's intended purpose.
The <span style="font-weight: bold">100 yard group</span> below was shot using <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">Winchester Super-X High Velocity 40gr.</span></span> bullets. It is 10 shots off the bench using a Harris bipod and
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Redtac small bag</span></span>. The scope used was a Leupold Vari-X III 4.5-14X 40mm A.O. mounted on a Tactical Solutions 15 MOA rail. Contrary to what happens with typical 10/22s' I ran out of "Down" adjustment. The first 5 shots were taken with about 3-4 seconds between shots, and shots 6-10 were shot at a rate of about 1-2 seconds between shots (range break was called). This group is pretty representative of what this rifle will do.
The <span style="font-weight: bold">200 yard group</span> on steel below was shot on a different day using <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">Winchester Super-X T22 40gr.</span></span> It is 7 shots, <span style="font-style: italic">although through no fault of the gun</span> (my bad), there are 3 more shots outside the photo frame. One shot was 3" out at 10 O' Clock, the second was 4" out at 11 O' Clock, and the third was about 8" out between 5 and 6 O' Clock. I definitely PULLED all three (3) of them, but there are a couple of other possible factors I haven't taken the time to resolve, <span style="font-style: italic">exclusive of the ammo and wind.</span>
Shot off the bench using the same scope and rail, and Harris bipod and
<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic">Redtac small bag</span></span>.
The wind was light when the group was shot, but it picked-up and then it started to rain several minutes after. This is the best group I've shot with Winchester Super-X T22 40 gr. Wolf MT 40 gr. also shoots well, but won't cycle the action reliably so I don't really like it for this 10/22.
This is a 7-shot group that measured less than 2.25" <span style="font-style: italic">edge-to-edge</span>. Only the shots to the left of the brown-looking rectangle are mine, and some of them are "stacked". And actually, I don't believe that one of the marks I counted is mine but since I would rather error on the side of conservatism I counted the mark. If I struck the faint mark at 1 O'Clock of the sharp, bright marks my group would be more like 1.75".
For those of you who shoot at ASR, this was the round plate at the west end of the 200 yard berm, which has been moved several yards east since I shot the photo last year. The wind picked-up and it started raining a few minutes after I took the photo, so I packed-up and left.
<span style="font-weight: bold">Temperature:</span> 72.2 F
<span style="font-weight: bold">Station Pressure:</span> 28.15
<span style="font-weight: bold">Wind:</span> 5 MPH 1/2 value
<span style="font-weight: bold">Altitude:</span> 1658
<span style="font-weight: bold">Density Altitude:</span> 3074
<span style="font-weight: bold">Humidity:</span> 52.2%
And as always I extend my invitation for anyone who shoots at ASR to come out to the range and shoot with me. Once you pass the "bonehead" test (I'm convinced that you won't drop my rifle or sweep me with it), I'd be happy to let anyone try out one of my Kimbers, my MOA 10/22, or my X-Ray 51.
Keith
You guys sure know how to keep information rolling...lol Sorry I stepped away for a bit,didnt know you were gonna keep it going..thanks
