Know Your Enemy

[Longshot231]

I'm pretty sure that everyone on this forum has heard of ANTIFA and BLM as well as a few other of the alphabet organizations. Has anyone heard of BAMN? Also known as By Any Means Necessary they are the front group for ANTIFA. These groups are more organized that what some of you may realize.

Here are the links to a lengthy three-part article about ANITFA and BAMN. At first glance, these groups appear to be a fringe element but that is an illusion. Remember that the Nazis in Germany, the Fascists in Itally and the Communists in Russia were once regarded as laughable fringe elements.

Did you know that a lot of BAMN members are actually school teachers and and actively recruit children as young as sixth graders? Did you know that ANTIFA originated in the 1920s in Italy?

Did you know that ANTIFA is organized into several "blocs;" the Green Bloc, Yellow Bloc, Red Bloc, Black Bloc and the Bike Bloc. They have a lot of organizational strengths and weaknesses. One weakness is there paranoia of being discovered. It's true that they have some public figure-heads but the overwhelming members of ANTIFA don't want their identity known. That's obvious but it goes beyond wearing black masks.

Did you know that ANTIFA and BAMN have discovered the 2nd Amendment have begun arming themselves with guns?

Here are the links to the three-part article. Read the third part very carefully as it explains BAMN is really behind ANTIFA.

Part One

Part Two

Part Three

I don't live in Arizona but has anyone heard of the John Brown Gun Club. The next link is an article on the club. Watch the video in the article. There efforts at "marksmanship" are, indeed, laughable but remember, it shows their desire to use lethal weapons to achieve their goals. If they can't silence you, they will kill you. They are just waiting for an opportunity.

Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y? ~ VIDEO

This gentleman has produced a couple of videos that are almost a couple of years old. Yet, his information is still timely. The videos might seem a little boring to watch but have more audio content that anything of informative video. I recommend, clicking on the YouTube video then go about your business on your computer applications or turning up the audio and listen while you reload your ammunition.

 

[GrandpaDeadLegs]

Geez that's a lengthy post must have took a while... Hope you got paid I would never work that hard for nothing.

Not concerned with any group of any people, anywhere. Got any fun videos?

 

[Longshot231]

Geez that's a lengthy post must have took a while... Hope you got paid I would never work that hard for nothing.

Not concerned with any group of any people, anywhere. Got any fun videos?

Go to the article in my original posting on the John Brown Gun Club. It's pretty laughable to watch these ANTIFAs shoot their AR-15s and AKs at 15-20 yards but think they are marksman. It's funny till you think that they want to use these weapons in an offensive manner to destroy our republic.

They may be crazy but some of them aren't stupid. Some of them may learn how to use these weapons. One of the shooters actually has a suppressed AR-15. Now I wonder if he has the tax stamp for it.

You don't have to read the entire article but scroll down the page and watch the video: Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y? ~ VIDEO

If you don't like that, there might be some old Three Stooges movies on YouTube.

 

[vh20]

Or Sponge Bob.

 

[ArmyJerry]

so you are telling me I will get to destroy Nazis? All my ammo wont be left to my kids? THanks for making my day.

I'm pretty sure that everyone on this forum has heard of ANTIFA and BLM as well as a few other of the alphabet organizations. Has anyone heard of BAMN? Also known as By Any Means Necessary they are the front group for ANTIFA. These groups are more organized that what some of you may realize.

Here are the links to a lengthy three-part article about ANITFA and BAMN. At first glance, these groups appear to be a fringe element but that is an illusion. Remember that the Nazis in Germany, the Fascists in Itally and the Communists in Russia were once regarded as laughable fringe elements.

Did you know that a lot of BAMN members are actually school teachers and and actively recruit children as young as sixth graders? Did you know that ANTIFA originated in the 1920s in Italy?

Did you know that ANTIFA is organized into several "blocs;" the Green Bloc, Yellow Bloc, Red Bloc, Black Bloc and the Bike Bloc. They have a lot of organizational strengths and weaknesses. One weakness is there paranoia of being discovered. It's true that they have some public figure-heads but the overwhelming members of ANTIFA don't want their identity known. That's obvious but it goes beyond wearing black masks.


Did you know that ANTIFA and BAMN have discovered the 2nd Amendment have begun arming themselves with guns?



Here are the links to the three-part article. Read the third part very carefully as it explains BAMN is really behind ANTIFA.

Part One

Part Two

Part Three

I don't live in Arizona but has anyone heard of the John Brown Gun Club. The next link is an article on the club. Watch the video in the article. There efforts at "marksmanship" are, indeed, laughable but remember, it shows their desire to use lethal weapons to achieve their goals. If they can't silence you, they will kill you. They are just waiting for an opportunity.

Can you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-S-Y? ~ VIDEO

This gentleman has produced a couple of videos that are almost a couple of years old. Yet, his information is still timely. The videos might seem a little boring to watch but have more audio content that anything of informative video. I recommend, clicking on the YouTube video then go about your business on your computer applications or turning up the audio and listen while you reload your ammunition.

 

[Spblademaker]

so you are telling me I will get to destroy Nazis? All my ammo wont be left to my kids? THanks for making my day.

There will come a point when you can stop using yours and use the ammo of your dead enemies. Always look on the bright side.

 

[Nik H]

so you are telling me I will get to destroy Nazis? All my ammo wont be left to my kids? THanks for making my day.

Don’t forget communists/socialists

 

[ArmyJerry]

They are all communists really.

Don’t forget communists/socialists

 

[Longshot231]

so you are telling me I will get to destroy Nazis? All my ammo wont be left to my kids? THanks for making my day.

I'm here to help. And I'm always glad to spread a little joy and happiness.

 

[diverdon]

Geez that's a lengthy post must have took a while... Hope you got paid I would never work that hard for nothing.

Not concerned with any group of any people, anywhere. Got any fun videos?

What is your purpose here? If it is only to disparage then go elsewhere.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

They are not worthy of a verbal response.

Buy ammo.

 

[Longshot231]

One of these days these people may run into someone who knows how to really use a gun.

Watch the video. It says it all:

 

[deersniper]

What is your purpose here? If it is only to disparage then go elsewhere.

I thought that was sarcasm. But maybe it's an old fudd or a retread commie

 

[ArmyJerry]

stop with the old fudd comments

 

[ShooterwithNoName]

Good info Longshot231. I finally was able to go through everything last night and have been going over it with my wife and kids this morning. The fact that they are using teachers to recruit especially hit home for me.

I cant say whether my kids would ever be exposed to it or not, but better safe than sorry. Plus it gave me a conduit to explain what communism is to my family and how to recognize one of the many faces of it.

 

[Longshot231]

Thanks for the kind words. We don't need to look too far back in history to know that whoever can educate the children can affect the future of a country:

“When an opponent declares, ‘I will not come over to your side,’ I calmly say, ‘Your child belongs to us already. … What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.’”
- Adolph Hitler Nov. 6, 1933

“The youth of today is ever the people of tomorrow. For this reason we have set before ourselves the task of inoculating our youth with the spirit of this community of the people at a very early age, at an age when human beings are still unperverted and therefore unspoiled. … This Reich stands, and it is building itself up for the future, upon its youth. And this new Reich will give its youth to no one, but will itself take youth and give to youth its own education and its own upbringing.”
- Adolph Hitler May 1, 1937

A little known fact is that the Nazi's were more popular in this country in the early 1930s than they were in Germany. Does one ever wonder why the ANTIFAs mirror the tactics of miscreants from other countries? That's because human nature, for good or evil, knows no boundaries.

These photos were taken in the 1930s here in the good old USA. Right up until Pearl Harbor the Nazis were very popular. That's why I still scratch my head that some folks have not learned their lesson about the Islamic Terrorists after 9/11.

When you look at these photos, realize that the ANTIFAs that terrorize American cities today are acting like the Nazi Brown Shirts of the 1920s and 30s.

 

[W54/XM-388]

Some parts of history people really don't want you to remember.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Never forget Hitler implemented the Democrat Party platform and ended up at the final solution. Hitler was a socialist Democrat. Very aligned with our current Democrat party of that time and even today.

 

[Longshot231]

Never forget Hitler implemented the Democrat Party platform and ended up at the final solution. Hitler was a socialist Democrat. Very aligned with our current Democrat party of that time and even today.

It's a little known fact that Senator Thomas Dodd, former Chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, crafted the 1968 GCA after the Nazi Weapons law of 1938.

Talk to any young person and ask them if the know what the term NAZI stands for and they probably don't know. They'd even be shocked to learn that the Nazi party is indeed a "socialist" party (on steriods). Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" - the National Socialist German Worker's Party.

 

[Vodoun daVinci]

"Above all, the Nazis were German white nationalists. What they stood for was the ascendancy of the “Aryan” race and the German nation, by any means necessary. Despite co-opting the name, some of the rhetoric, and even some of the precepts of socialism, Hitler and party did so with utter cynicism, and with vastly different goals. The claim that the Nazis actually were leftists or socialists in any generally accepted sense of those terms flies in the face of historical reality."

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

VooDoo

 

[W54/XM-388]

Communist spokes people "Snopes" is where you get your information from HA!
Next you'll be telling us you believe what the SPLC says as truth!

Of course they would say it, because they don't want you to understand the truth that the Nazis were just a different version of Socialism.

For actual research, go compare Nazi domestic propaganda posters with Stalin / Russian Communist propaganda posters and Mao / Chinese Communist propaganda posters. Or for that matter get the Nazi style handbook and compare with the CCCP communist style handbook.

 

[Jaymiller5]

We don't need to look too far back in history to know that whoever can educate the children can affect the future of a country:

Exactly.. and look at the state of education.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Or any Democrat Party plank in any election ever.

Communist spokes people "Snopes" is where you get your information from HA!
Next you'll be telling us you believe what the SPLC says as truth!

Of course they would say it, because they don't want you to understand the truth that the Nazis were just a different version of Socialism.

For actual research, go compare Nazi domestic propaganda posters with Stalin / Russian Communist propaganda posters and Mao / Chinese Communist propaganda posters. Or for that matter get the Nazi style handbook and compare with the CCCP communist style handbook.

 

[Longshot231]

"Above all, the Nazis were German white nationalists. What they stood for was the ascendancy of the “Aryan” race and the German nation, by any means necessary. Despite co-opting the name, some of the rhetoric, and even some of the precepts of socialism, Hitler and party did so with utter cynicism, and with vastly different goals. The claim that the Nazis actually were leftists or socialists in any generally accepted sense of those terms flies in the face of historical reality."

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

VooDoo

Here's an excellent explanation of why the Nazi party as really a socialist party. BTW, I don't trust snopes.

 

[Sean the Nailer]

I learned many years ago, that snopes is slanted and tainted and corrupt. Why haven't you?

 

[Strykervet]

Communist spokes people "Snopes" is where you get your information from HA!
Next you'll be telling us you believe what the SPLC says as truth!

Of course they would say it, because they don't want you to understand the truth that the Nazis were just a different version of Socialism.

For actual research, go compare Nazi domestic propaganda posters with Stalin / Russian Communist propaganda posters and Mao / Chinese Communist propaganda posters. Or for that matter get the Nazi style handbook and compare with the CCCP communist style handbook.

Massive government is indistinguishable from the rest despite the names or rhetoric. It's corrupt and it thrives on misery of the masses for the betterment of the few. This is factual history. We reached that point sometime around the beginning of the 20th century, but some were licking their lips before the ink dried on the BOR.

I can second these shit stains wanting to stay secret. I tried to join Seattle Ceasefire once, I was gonna go disrupt a meeting with some truthful questions. They keep that shit ultra secret and don't divulge where they meet. Their numbers are FAR below what they want you to believe though. Anyway, it wasn't worth the hassle just to preach to the other choir in the end.

As for teachers, I've been to university and professors aren't bound to teach some bullshit make believe curriculum. They write their own shit. They have zero rules and cannot be fired for speaking their minds. Most stay in their lanes, a few don't. For years, I never met a math professor even talk about politics. EVER. They just don't. So those asshole teachers you hate, they're cherry picked by the media for you. They're actually very rare in nature and I wouldn't worry about 'em. Their students know they're full of shit already, they just don't wanna fuck up their 4.0. BTDT too.

On the other hand, some of these kids have never been inspired before and so it only takes one loudmouth motherfucker to get through.

 

[ArmyJerry]

We must cut out funding for college loans that is the life blood of Communism in our country.

 

[Longshot231]

We must cut out funding for college loans that is the life blood of Communism in our country.

It's also too easy for students to default on their loans. So once someone has earned their liberal arts degree, they default on their loan. Then the tax payers end up paying for the already over one trillion dollars in unpaid debt.

There is also another problem with universities. The only thing more useless than tits and lipstick on a pig is a tenured professor. Once they are tenured, they can't be fired.

University boards of trustees or regents are country clubs for wealthy alumni and political appointees. They go to their meetings and tell each other how great they are and vote to give the football coach another big pay raise or fire him if he didn't win enough games. Then they go to lunch, come back and table other work for the next meeting then they go out for another round of golf or home.

The only thing they know how to do is raise tuition to spend it on sports stadiums.

 

[Longshot231]

This sounds like the ANTIFAs are more than a few nut-cases on the fringes of society which are nuisances more than threats. Sotries below:

FBI report says Antifa activists tried to buy weapons from Mexican cartel to stage 'armed rebellion' at border

Feds investigating alleged armed disruption attempt at U.S.-Mexico border in December

 

[ArmyJerry]

so what do you propose be done to them, and do you want the same treatment for the rest of us?

People should arm and protect themselves against all threats, antifa included.

 

[Longshot231]

so what do you propose be done to them, and do you want the same treatment for the rest of us?

People should arm and protect themselves against all threats, antifa included.

The difference between them and us is that we want to preserve the Constitution and our Federal Republic.

They want to destroy our Constitution and our country.

What should we do with them; you ask?

The answer lies with the fact that they’ve gone beyond peaceful protests to participating, or the very least, conspiring to attacking our country.

Therefore, an appropriate response is necessary and woefully wanting.

BTW, ANTIFA personnel are not arming for self-protection. They are planning attacks - not self- defense.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Only a fool prepared for defense by defense only.

 

[Nik H]

BTW, ANTIFA personnel are not arming for self-protection. They are planning attacks - not self- defense.

An old saying that I learned was

An attacker must vanquish but a defender only needs to survive. Surviving is not that hard with proper planning...antifa will not vanquish...they will quickly go from attacker to defender and they will not survive...because they are nothing but rats and much like rats they will scatter and be easy to...

 

[FS1]

All I have to say is I am not paying for a Brownshirt tag on my hunting license. I will poach.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

We should take advantage of existing gun and terrorism laws and use them against these cocksuckers. Know that one of them possesses a firearm? Try to goad them into making verifiable and typed threats and then turn them in.

If there is one thing that these idiots have even less than brains, it is OPSEC. You don't even need to be that creative to be able to get one of them to spill all of his true feelings and intentions. Play around with them even more and they may start agreeing to purchase explosives and build bombs too. Record all of that shit and send it in. Twitter and Facebook is the best place to trawl for the big fishes. These clowns think that they are safe there and everyone who agrees with them are fellow "revolutionaries".

We need to start playing dirty. Not just any kind of dirty, but the filthiest, gutter water, parasite infested dirty.

 

[Fig]

"Above all, the Nazis were German white nationalists. What they stood for was the ascendancy of the “Aryan” race and the German nation, by any means necessary. Despite co-opting the name, some of the rhetoric, and even some of the precepts of socialism, Hitler and party did so with utter cynicism, and with vastly different goals. The claim that the Nazis actually were leftists or socialists in any generally accepted sense of those terms flies in the face of historical reality."

https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

VooDoo

Total, snopes, leftist, horse shit. Take out the German-centric/racist policy and they are straight, totalitarian socialists no different from what Bernie, Warren, or any of the radical leftists push. Golf clap none of the Democrats are German-centric racists... That is the ONLY thing separating them from Nazis. Yes, it's a very big one, but the above statement is retarded and a lie on it's face!

Taken directly from the NSDAP platform (I only removed all the Germanic Racist stuff):

"100% State Sponsored Employment"
"Individual activity must not be harmful to the public interest and must be pursued within the framework of the community and for the general good."
"The abolition of all income obtained without labor or effort."
"We demand the nationalization of all enterprises (already) converted into corporations (trusts)."
"We demand profit-sharing in large enterprises."
"We demand the large-scale development of pension schemes."
"We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle class; the immediate communalization of the large department stores, which are to be leased at low rates to small tradesmen. We demand the most careful consideration for the owners of small businesses in orders placed by national, state, or community authorities."
"We demand land reform in accordance with our national needs and a law for expropriation without compensation of land for public purposes. Abolition of ground rent and prevention of all speculation in land."
"We demand ruthless battle against those who harm the common good by their activities. Persons committing base crimes against the People, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished by death without regard to religion or race."
"In order to make higher education – and thereby entry into leading positions – available to every able and industrious German, the State must provide a thorough restructuring of our entire public educational system. The courses of study at all educational institutions are to be adjusted to meet the requirements of practical life. Understanding of the concept of the State must be achieved through the schools (teaching of civics) at the earliest age at which it can be grasped. We demand the education at the public expense of specially gifted children of poor parents, without regard to the latter's’ position or occupation."
"The State must raise the level of national health by means of mother-and-child care, the banning of juvenile labor, achievements of physical fitness through legislation for compulsory gymnastics and sports, and maximum support for all organizations providing physical training for young people."
"Newspapers which violate the public interest are to be banned. We demand laws against trends in art and literature which have a destructive effect on our national life, and the suppression of performances that offend against the above requirements."
"We demand freedom for all religious denominations, provided that they do not endanger the existence of the State or offend the concepts of decency and morality of the Germanic race."
"To carry out all the above we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the Reich. Unquestioned authority by the political central Parliament over the entire Reich and over its organizations in general. The establishment of trade and professional organizations to enforce the Reich basic laws in the individual states."

That's virtually the same as Communism or "Democratic Socialism". Some or all of those things may look good to you. Remember, everything in there is compulsory and through the use of government force. Liberty and freedom never enter into it, just like it isn't a consideration among the left in this country.

The ONLY reason that the Democrats aren't Nazis is because they don't believe in Gernman-centric racism...the ONLY reason.

Snopes lies and they can go fuck themselves with such an obvious and bald faced lie. They're so in the tank for the left it's ridiculous. You can't believe a single thing they write because they're proven liars.

 

[Fig]

Just as most people claiming to be "Christians" have never read the Bible, so to "Socialists", "Communists", and "Leftists" have never read Das Kapital or The Communist Manifesto. Ergo, most ignorant leftists do not realize that the term "socialism" was coined by Marx as an interim state on the way to full communism. The totalitarian hell holes throughout history (like the one we're watching implode in Venezuela) are totalitarian, socialist, "worker's-paradises", because actual communism isn't achievable as long as the society is human. It just gets to the totalitarian dictatorship stage and stops there, EVERY SINGLE TIME. So really if you vote for one of these evil fuckers you may as well stop pretending to vote for some interim state that isn't going to happen, and declare yourself for totalitarian dictatorship, because if you're expecting anything else you don't deserve to survive, period.

 

[W54/XM-388]

so what do you propose be done to them, and do you want the same treatment for the rest of us?

Currently the law and the full force of the government (that we pay for), the courts and all those "just following orders" are used to protect violent Communists and the Antifi / BLM type as they go about their reigns of violence designed (Pretty much following the playbook of the National Socialists and all the rest of the Communists) to cower good people into submission and get what they want.

If the government & courts were to get out of the way, the problem would be solved very quickly.

 

[PinesAndProjectiles]

 

[FleetDaddy]

What I saw looked like a high percentage of misses. They’ll never clear the first mag. Most will be scared shitless before the first shots fired.

CANNON FODDER!

Ignorant fools.

 

[deersniper]

We should take advantage of existing gun and terrorism laws and use them against these cocksuckers. Know that one of them possesses a firearm? Try to goad them into making verifiable and typed threats and then turn them in.

If there is one thing that these idiots have even less than brains, it is OPSEC. You don't even need to be that creative to be able to get one of them to spill all of his true feelings and intentions. Play around with them even more and they may start agreeing to purchase explosives and build bombs too. Record all of that shit and send it in. Twitter and Facebook is the best place to trawl for the big fishes. These clowns think that they are safe there and everyone who agrees with them are fellow "revolutionaries".

We need to start playing dirty. Not just any kind of dirty, but the filthiest, gutter water, parasite infested dirty.

Lol. Lol

Rules don't apply to leftist or the oligharchy.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

Lol. Lol

Rules don't apply to leftist or the oligharchy.

I getcha, but do you remember the self proclaimed Marxist clown that threatened to kill sheriffs in WA State for refusing to enforce I-1639? Somebody turned his ass in and now he's going to be putting that purdy mouf' to work for quite a bit of time.

 

[Longshot231]

I getcha, but do you remember the self proclaimed Marxist clown that threatened to kill sheriffs in WA State for refusing to enforce I-1639? Somebody turned his ass in and now he's going to be putting that purdy mouf' to work for quite a bit of time.

That's true but also remember that Hitler spent a year in jail writing his book. Stalin was also exiled and imprisoned several times but that didn't stop him. Mussolini was also imprisoned for a short time.

Some of these same socialist skunks of today have the same mindset. To them, if a person is imprisoned for breaking the law that makes them a hero to their cause.

Keep in mind, I'm not saying that locking them up does no good. It makes the weaker members of their movement think twice before doing anything wrong. It only pisses the rest of them off.

In the meantime, buy more ammunition.

 

[Blue Sky Country]

That's true but also remember that Hitler spent a year in jail writing his book. Stalin was also exiled and imprisoned several times but that didn't stop him. Mussolini was also imprisoned for a short time.

Some of these same socialist skunks of today have the same mindset. To them, if a person is imprisoned for breaking the law that makes them a hero to their cause.

Keep in mind, I'm not saying that locking them up does no good. It makes the weaker members of their movement think twice before doing anything wrong. It only pisses the rest of them off.

In the meantime, buy more ammunition.

Unfortunately yes......The hardline true believers wouldn't be deterred. They would come back out even more angry and irrational. If they don't get deaded in prison they ARE going to be a PITA on the streets until they do something to get themselves DRT'd.

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In the meantime, buy more ammunition.
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Sage advice right there.

 

[Erno86]

That's true but also remember that Hitler spent a year in jail writing his book. Stalin was also exiled and imprisoned several times but that didn't stop him. Mussolini was also imprisoned for a short time.

Some of these same socialist skunks of today have the same mindset. To them, if a person is imprisoned for breaking the law that makes them a hero to their cause.

Keep in mind, I'm not saying that locking them up does no good. It makes the weaker members of their movement think twice before doing anything wrong. It only pisses the rest of them off.

In the meantime, buy more ammunition.

It seems like you are advocating totalitarianism in every sense of the word.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Is killing off totalitarian despots really totalitarianism?

It seems like you are promoting totalitarianism in every sense of the word.

 

[Longshot231]

It seems like you are advocating totalitarianism in every sense of the word.

I'm not advocating that at all.

We are still a nation that has a constitution. Although there are too many that disregard it.

There isn't anything wrong with peaceful demonstration. The best way to handle the peaceful demonstrations of the ANTIFAs, BLMs, BAMN, KKK, Neo-Nazis and white supremacists is to ignore them. They want attention. So why give it to them?

On the other hand, some of these groups have demonstrated a propensity toward violence, destruction of property, assault & battery as well as threatening to kill people or overthrow the government.

When that happens, they have to suffer the consequences just like any of us on this forum if we did the same thing.

If that hasn't become clear in anything that I have written please let me know how you think that I'm advocating totalitarianism.

 

[ArmyJerry]

Overthrowing an unconstitutional government is legal and a duty of the citizenry.

 

[Erno86]

Longshot231-

Comparing Antifa to the KKK & Neo Nazis is like comparing apples to oranges.

 

[ArmyJerry]

@Erno86 86 So what’s the difference?