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Ladder test 308 178 HPBT UPDATE

justinbaker

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Sep 11, 2007
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eta: update in last post


remington 700
178 gr Hornady HPBT match
varget
shot at about 400 yards

im just getting into long range shooting (aka im not very good yet)so i shot 2 identical ladder tests and here are the results


the "X" shots are are sighters and barrel foulers. After shot 1 i adjusted .4 mils windage to get away from the edge of paper

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shot 10 i felt myself drop the shot low

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to me is looks like shots 4,5,6 on each target have the least vertical dispersion so that would be 44.2, 44.4, and 44.6


which actually makes sense, since quickload said i was on a OBT node with 44.4 grains


in case you feel like watching the videos (i sped them up so about 30 seconds each)

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Re: Ladder test 308 178 Horn. HPBT Pics and Video

should i now load some rounds at 44.2, 44.4 and 44.6 and shoot for groups? to see whats best?


should i even believe this node since i have lighter powder charges higher on target than heavier charges
 
Re: Ladder test 308 178 Horn. HPBT Pics and Video

Based on those targets, I would load 44.4 gr and work on seating depth. I would go from touching the lands back at least .050" in .010" increments and shoot some 3-shot groups, then fine tune in smaller increments, assuming you can touch the lands and still fit your magazine.
 
Re: Ladder test 308 178 Horn. HPBT Pics and Video

he'll never touch the lands and fit the shells into the mag, I can touch the lands at 2.960", mag well is of course 2.830".

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Re: Ladder test 308 178 Horn. HPBT Pics and Video

I load mine 1 at a time, so dont need the magazine.
 
Re: Ladder test 308 178 Horn. HPBT Pics and Video

yep no touching the lands for me. so coal is mag length at 2.83


i loaded 3 each at 44.2 44.4 and 44.6, gonna go out in a couple of hours and see which one has the least vertical spread.
 
Re: Ladder test 308 178 Horn. HPBT Pics and Video

I don't use that bullet but I can touch the lands in my PSS with 168 SMK and still feed from the internal magazine. Maybe the Hornady bullets are different.

I would go with the 44.4 gr as it should be in the center of the node. Yes, you may get a little tighter a bump up or down, but the most forgiving load will be in the center of the node. It will also be the most accurate <span style="font-style: italic">on average</span> across different temps.
 
Re: Ladder test 308 178 Horn. HPBT Pics and Video

okay went out and shot some more at 300 yards

the 2 best were 44.4 and 44.6, but wanted to see what yall think


here is 44.4 velocities = 2569, 2578, 2554

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and 44.6 velocities= 2583, 2594, 2578

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the ES is smaller with 44.6 so should i just stick with it??



and for the hell of it i loaded 5 rounds of 44.4 before i left the house and shot this group

i felt myself screw up the shot on the left. it was the first shot
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so 44.4 is a good load.

should i load some more 44.4 and 44.6 and test again
 
Re: Ladder test 308 178 Horn. HPBT Pics and Video

Test again and if you duplicate it that the load.
What kind of brass are you using?
 
Re: Ladder test 308 178 Horn. HPBT Pics and Video

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ROCKETMAN1313</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Test again and if you duplicate it that the load.
What kind of brass are you using? </div></div>





Thats what im thinking as well.

And it's lapua brass