Re: Larue Tactical OSR?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Later</div><div class="ubbcode-body">O75,
How many rifle test and evaluations have you been a part of?? And I mean of a rifle that is not "public" yet. <span style="color: #FF0000"> No need for me to lie, I have not been a part of any.</span>
Reason I ask is those of that have been involved in a few of them are not near as cut up on MV and such as you seem to be. Below is my explanation lol:
Take the pic shown above for example...you see an OSR, Remingtons new "non existant" rifle, few M24s. Not shown is my LIL Shield build rifle.
From that week I can ask any of the 14 people that were there what the MV were in ANY of the rifles and NOBODY will be able to give you the correct answer!!!! Why is that you may ask???? Because some people choose to collect true ballistic data at various ranges instead of inputting some numbers into software and it giving you predicted downrange data. Yes we can work the MV out in reverse but who cares..all that matters is we all know the elevation and windage corrections needed on the rifles. I can tell you that my 18" barreled rifle shot significantly faster than those long barreled M24s just due to difference in mils of elevation needed.
"Blind Followers"---just because you do not have access to such data does not mean that those that are providing that data are blind. It means that those that are putting that data out for public have maybe earned the respect of those that are following. For example--how many 7.62 NATO chambered rifles you know that run an 8 twist barrel??? Does that barrel not work because you may not know anyone that uses it??? I can assure you that would be wrong assumption on anyones part, because it works and works well. There was one at same range as above pic but not shown lol.
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Later I think that my blind followers and lemmings comment was taken out of context, and not interpreted the way I meant it. It was not mean towards those that have had access to the OSR. The blind followers and lemmings coment was meant towards those that are believeing everything that has been said about this rifle without it being proven.
I just think that if the average joe was to come in here and say hey "Im shooting rediculously small groups at 1200 yards with my 16 inch gun" then some of the same exact same questions would be asked by the members here on the hide. Im not saying that it cant be done. I am simply saying that I am not going to believe it until I see it. I hope that the OSR is everything that it is being pumped up to be and not just another production gun. I really truely hope that it is going to give custom gun results out of a production gun.
But I am the douchenozzle because I question it, and dont just "blindly" accept it.
M118lr is reported to have a MV of 2600fps. Now I am not sure what length, twist or how many grooves that barrel has that they test fired the round in to get the velocity, but I am sure its on record somewhere. In the little email that ML posted it says that Mr Coker was shooting M118lr, so that is why I am curious as to how he got the velocity needed to keep that 175 grain bullet super sonic at that distance. I think that is a hell of a feat of engineering.
I am sure that he has legit reasons to push back the date of release, there have been many reasons I am sure all of them are legit and that he wouldnt release a product until he is satisfied with its performance. Which is cool.... I dont blame him for that.
I simply am not jumping on the OSR bandwagon like the LT "lemmings" have. I have often said that I am going to design and build a mount for a dildo to go on a rail, on the mount I am gonna put the LT logo on it and I am sure it will sell like hotcakes simply cause it has the LT logo on it, the LT lemmings will want it.
