Gunsmithing Lathe Porn!!

Papagrizzly

USA F-Open Rifle Team
Full Member
Minuteman
Okay, I cannot help but gloat a little here!

Moved in the new South Bend Collet lathe into my shop today. Very tight quarters as I have too much stuff in the shop.

2en4uok.jpg



2u97h8h.jpg



v7cbqb.jpg


This is a super precision South Bend and guaranteed to 50 millionths accuracy. Also, it will thread any pitch your heart desires - just type it into the screen. Other than a CNC lathe, this is the fastest manual threading lathe that I know of. You can set parameters and go left right with the large levers to left, whilst moving the compound in and out with the quick lever. Can hardly wait to get play with this puppy.


SouthBend Web site link: http://www.southbendlathe.com/products/lathes/SB1009
 

E. Bryant

STABILITRAK ACTIVE
Supporter
Full Member
Minuteman
Supporter+
  • Oct 25, 2010
    4,629
    5,457
    MI
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    Wow - that looks like a great machine. Must be nice to be the Papa
    wink.gif
     

    ugsly

    Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    May 10, 2005
    726
    1
    37
    Oregon Linn County
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    Very nice Shiraz
    smile.gif
    If you ever feel the need to free up some space I have lots in my shop :p

    What kind of flooring is that you have in your shop?

    Kc
     

    Sidk

    Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Nov 26, 2009
    261
    0
    61
    Vegas
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    It looks exactly like my Pergo American Beech Block.
     

    maccrazy2

    Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Jul 2, 2009
    135
    3
    45
    10 minutes S. W. of denver
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    Nice lathe!
    As a side note, your company is one of the few I deal with that I would say has truly good customer service. It is so rare to get good service anymore anywhere.
    I have a central machinery lathe and the forward/reverse switch broke. I called for a replacement and was told the company did not carry that line of lathes anymore. Further, they refused to give me any contact info for the manafacturer so I could source one myself.
    I called Grizzly and the parts department guy I spoke with was very helpful and got me a switch for a grizzly lathe that also fits mine.
    PS Colorado would be a nice place for a new store. wink, wink,
     

    slowyellow

    Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Sep 17, 2012
    275
    1
    35
    Virginia Beach, VA
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    That is sick. Is that for personal use or for work? I know that you had said that you wished that you'd get the cnc version like work, but good god that looks like an expensive lathe to have at home, lol.
     

    jrm850

    Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Oct 9, 2012
    153
    0
    Florida
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    .00005"? I bet the spindle bearings cost more than my lathe.
    smile.gif


    Very jealous!
     

    Papagrizzly

    USA F-Open Rifle Team
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    <span style="font-weight: bold">Eric</span> - Deep discounts (to myself) are my specialty
    smile.gif


    <span style="font-weight: bold">UG</span> - The flooring is a special one developed for gyms. It has a very thick vinyl type membrane on top with a 1/4" of very dense rubber like material on the bottom. Not at all spongy - can drive a forklift over it without damaging or sinking, and is extremely damage resistant. Good for the knees and I have dropped solid carbide endmills without damaging them. In my opinion, the best flooring for a shop. Easy to clean, very scratch resistant, grease resistant, does not have a memory - practically indestructible. I just came upon it after a local University had done their gym with it and there was enough left over to do my shop. Supposed to be pricey, but I got it for a third of the price as a remnant.

    <span style="font-weight: bold">Mac</span> - Thanks. We have some very good people and processes in place.

    <span style="font-weight: bold">SlowY</span> - Personal. There are advantages to owning the companies that make these lathes (see deep discount comment above)
     

    LongRifles Inc.

    Lance Criminal
    Full Member
    Minuteman
  • Mar 14, 2010
    5,901
    4,894
    50
    Sturgis, S. Dakota
    www.longriflesinc.com
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have dropped solid carbide endmills without damaging them</div></div>

    Now I really, really, really "hate" you.
    smile.gif


    Last year I was standing in line at the Sturgis Coffee Company shop (morning ritual) to get my 20oz of ambition. I had a brand new, $172.00 5F, 2.0"LOC, coated carbide endmill in my hand that had mysteriously found its way into the center console of my Tahoe. (prolly from the move to the new shop.

    I took it out of the sleeve to show Mike, the owner, what one looked like.

    I dropped the damn thing.

    "dink!"

    Nothing like that sound anywhere. Kind of like a cash register in reverse. . .

    Awesome floor.

    C.
     

    el gordo2

    Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Jun 13, 2008
    993
    8
    San Antonio, Tejas
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    <span style="color: #3366FF"><span style="font-size: 20pt"><span style="font-weight: bold">IT'S GOOD TO BE THE KING! </span> </span></span>

    <object width="425" height="350"> <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/KuMQjKiaDTg"></param> <param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/KuMQjKiaDTg" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"> </embed></object>
     

    MikeeBooshay

    Recoil Sponge
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Aug 31, 2009
    954
    8
    Houston TX and Hackberry LA
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    Shiraz,

    How many of those parts fit a Hardinge? It's very similar in appearance, the spindle runouts are close etc, but can/could someone update a tired Hardinge using South Bend parts?

    I really like the e-thread stuff, XXXXX sells one as a retrofit, as you know. If mine didn't work so well, I'd be hot for one of these too. I've been thinking of buying another as a parts machine if needed, but this likely makes more sense.

    By the way, that lathe I got from you is great, I should have had you put DRO on it there though. One thing - shorten the spider screws on the outboard end, they prevent the spindle from turning with more than a .5" barrel!!!!
     

    pcschwenke

    Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Apr 10, 2008
    226
    0
    Northern Michigan
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    Those lathes are very similar to the Hardinge tool room lathes. South Bend is one of a handful importing a copy. At the IMTS tool show this year I saw a lot of them. We have 2 Hardinge lathes at our shop. Great purchase! Keep us updated on how well it works. I would love to get a new one like yours to replace a tired original. I'd doubt the parts are compatible though.
     

    E. Bryant

    STABILITRAK ACTIVE
    Supporter
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Supporter+
  • Oct 25, 2010
    4,629
    5,457
    MI
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Papagrizzly</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The flooring is a special one developed for gyms. It has a very thick vinyl type membrane on top with a 1/4" of very dense rubber like material on the bottom. Not at all spongy - can drive a forklift over it without damaging or sinking, and is extremely damage resistant.</div></div>

    That stuff is very cool. My local gym has it in the weight room. It's compliant enough to soak up a dropped cast-iron dumbbell with nothing more than a dull "thud", and yet firm enough to support the weight of various racks and machines (many of which weigh as much as a small lathe or mill) without any permanent marks. I'm still trying to decide if I want to cough up $2/sq.ft. for my new shop, or just use floor mats along the benches.
     

    Papagrizzly

    USA F-Open Rifle Team
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    Mikee - I am glad the lathe you bought from us is working well for you. I think we fixed the long spider screws, but will double check that.

    I don't know if the parts will fit an old Hardinge. I had asked the factory once they said "different". There are three factories in Taiwan that make these types of lathes. However, the one that makes them for South Bend only makes these types of high precision lathes and nothing else. The other two do it as a side business, where they make larger lathes and then some of these. South Bend had a booth at IMTS here in Septmeber and we sold many of these as customers were able to compare all the different makes at the show. In fact the Navy ordered two as well.

    Chad - bummer on the endmill - probably made for a bad day.
    frown.gif
     

    leadbullet

    Gunny Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Sep 25, 2010
    3,878
    9
    55
    kitsap WA
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    nevermind, found them, a bit pricey but very very nice, I may have to trade in my old G0492.
     

    skeetlee

    Gunny Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Jun 13, 2008
    1,564
    30
    47
    Central Illinois
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    will that little SB chamber a barrel or is the hole through the spindal to small? Im still saving for the big Gun smithing lathe. Everytime i see one it motivates me a little more. Lee
     

    slowyellow

    Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Sep 17, 2012
    275
    1
    35
    Virginia Beach, VA
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Papagrizzly</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">Eric</span> - Deep discounts (to myself) are my specialty
    smile.gif


    <span style="font-weight: bold">SlowY</span> - Personal. There are advantages to owning the companies that make these lathes (see deep discount comment above) </div></div>

    Gotcha! Didn't realize that you made them. Looks like some pretty damn nice quality lathes!
     

    colchester

    Sergeant
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Jan 23, 2009
    428
    14
    60
    100 mi. east of Camp Perry
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skeetlee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">will that little SB chamber a barrel or is the hole through the spindal to small? Im still saving for the big Gun smithing lathe. Everytime i see one it motivates me a little more. Lee</div></div>
    1.250" spindle bore
     

    Papagrizzly

    USA F-Open Rifle Team
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    Skeet - Although the collet lathe will do barrels very accurately, and faster because of the threading features, the Grizzly G0509G has become the standard for a lot of Gunsmiths doing it for a living.

    Its the lathe on the left on the first picture. Has a large 2" spindle bore, is incredibly beefy and very accurate as well. I can work to within tenths on it. Got a Buck set-tru 4 jaw scroll chuck on it. When I lock down on the tool post, the lathe does not move at all. Heavy castings all around. Not the prettiest girl in the room, but certanly has the brains!
     

    Glen Seekins

    Gunny Sergeant
    Commercial Supporter
    Full Member
    Minuteman
    Jan 28, 2004
    1,300
    92
    lewiston, ID
    www.seekinsprecision.com
    Re: Lathe Porn!!

    Very nice. I have a hardinge hlv-h that I use for gun stuff and tool making. Same threading process as yours, and you will wonder why every lathe isn't like that as soon as you use it,,,

    Only thing worse than dropping a 200$ endmill on the cement is when a employee does it for ya!