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Lawsuit being prepared against DD. Thank Big Green for this……..

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    while not a precedent, it emboldens them. Fuck you Remington and your garbage ass guns.
     
    You can bet as soon as the news hit the airwaves shitbag fucking lawyers were headed there in droves. Like buzzards to a rotting carcass. Why don't mass shooters ever target legal conventions?
     
    Remington was defunct at the time. I think is was an insurance co that was making decisions, right?
     
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    Never let an opportunity for a good money grab go to waste.

    Something horrible happened.

    Now someone needs to pay eleventy billion dollars to make it right. Cause... you know... justice.

    You'd think they'd go after LEO for diddling themselves in the parking for the better part of an hour while shots were popping off inside, but no.

    DD must be a more lucrative target. 🤮
     
    Never let an opportunity for a good money grab go to waste.

    Something horrible happened.

    Now someone needs to pay eleventy billion dollars to make it right. Cause... you know... justice.

    You'd think they'd go after LEO for diddling themselves in the parking for the better part of an hour while shots were popping off inside, but no.

    DD must be a more lucrative target. 🤮
    Supreme Court ruled that police have no obligation to enter. I believe that was after the stoneman Douglass shooting in ft lauderdale when the school SRO stayed outside
     
    Yes and no. They still had to sign off on the payout I believe. Regardless, they should not have settled.

    Correct. There is the Chapter 7 bankruptcy itself, the proceedings in which the "Sandy Hook families" and the insurance company were active participants. This was all baked into the bankruptcy settlement.

    The insurance company in question was Ironshore, a subsidiary of Liberty:


    Yeah, they cut a fat check, but I bet they received plenty of money from Remington over the years. Liberty's lawyers would have put up a good fight, but at some point, a financial model makes the decision on whether or not to settle.
     
    Yes and no. They still had to sign off on the payout I believe. Regardless, they should not have settled.
    Remington shouldn’t have settle but plaintiff’s lawsuit wasn’t based solely on the fact that Remington made the gun, it was based on how the gun was as advertised. Remington(or someone at dpms) out of desperation I guess made some really stupid advertising choices, I believe they advertised the gun as the perfect killing machine or something to that affect and paid to have the gun with the name used in video games. I’m not saying this made them at fault but it did give the attorneys a chance to get around their exemption by making the argument they basically targeted unstable individuals in their advertising. DD that I’m aware of doesn’t have this issue, and while it’s obviously going to be expensive the lawsuit shouldn’t even make it past a motion to dismiss, federal law already has a specific immunity unless they can show some irresponsible act by the manufacturer. But this is one of the lines of attack by gun grabbers, just try and bankrupt anyone that has anything to do with the gun community.
     
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    Remington shouldn’t have settle but plaintiff’s lawsuit wasn’t based solely on the fact that Remington made the gun, it was based on how the gun was as advertised. Remington(or someone at dpms) out of desperation I guess made some really stupid advertising choices, I believe they advertised the gun as the perfect killing machine or something to that affect and paid to have the gun with the name used in video games. I’m not saying this made them at fault but it did give the attorneys a chance to get around their exemption by making the argument they basically targeted unstable individuals in their advertising. DD that I’m aware of doesn’t have this issue, and while it’s obviously going to be expensive the lawsuit shouldn’t even make it past a motion to dismiss, federal law already has a specific immunity unless they can show some irresponsible act by the manufacturer. But this is one of the lines of attack by gun grabbers, just try and bankrupt anyone that has anything to do with the gun community.
    I thought it was a Bushmaster ad (because they're cucks and sold out of ME to be part of that trash), and the ad said something like, "Get your man card back", or "man card reissued".
     
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    DD should cash out and open a new company EE so they is nothing to get from DD
     
    Supreme Court ruled that police have no obligation to enter. I believe that was after the stoneman Douglass shooting in ft lauderdale when the school SRO stayed outside

    There are two Supreme Court rulings that preceded the federal court ruling on Parkland:

     
    There are two Supreme Court rulings that preceded the federal court ruling on Parkland:

    They should have to send out flyers to the residents explaining this so one can prepare to defend one's family. This alone should be justification that they have to issue you a CC permit.
     
    I thought it was a Bushmaster ad (because they're cucks and sold out of ME to be part of that trash), and the ad said something like, "Get your man card back", or "man card reissued".
    Yes your right Bushmaster my bad, yes I don’t remember the exact advertisement but there were more than a few when I read it I thought that was a really bad idea, and I’m firmly on the 2A side of the dial, I’m sure Remington’s lawyers reacted in horror, I don’t see DD having these issues, so unless there is something I’m completely unaware of this lawsuit would have to be based just on the fact they made the firearm, which is exactly what the federal immunity covers to the letter.
     
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    I thought it was a Bushmaster ad (because they're cucks and sold out of ME to be part of that trash), and the ad said something like, "Get your man card back", or "man card reissued".
    So if BM got themselves in trouble for implying that, wouldn't the To Protect and Serve assurance written on many police units obligate them to do just that?

    People are conditioned to call the government for all their protection needs and most every conflict aftermath includes the "Why didn't you call the police?" or "You should have dialed 911 and let us handle it" lecture from Ofc. Friendly.
     
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    Generally speaking, an insurance company has the right to settle any claim they want to without the insured’s approval.

    Remington sucks, don’t get me wrong, but I bet the decision to settle was made by the insurance carriers.

    I don’t have any inside knowledge of the case but that is how insurance typically works with exceptions for certain types of insurance programs.
     
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    Remington shouldn’t have settle but plaintiff’s lawsuit wasn’t based solely on the fact that Remington made the gun, it was based on how the gun was as advertised. Remington(or someone at dpms) out of desperation I guess made some really stupid advertising choices, I believe they advertised the gun as the perfect killing machine or something to that affect and paid to have the gun with the name used in video games. I’m not saying this made them at fault but it did give the attorneys a chance to get around their exemption by making the argument they basically targeted unstable individuals in their advertising. DD that I’m aware of doesn’t have this issue, and while it’s obviously going to be expensive the lawsuit shouldn’t even make it past a motion to dismiss, federal law already has a specific immunity unless they can show some irresponsible act by the manufacturer. But this is one of the lines of attack by gun grabbers, just try and bankrupt anyone that has anything to do with the gun community.
    Yes I know. It was because of marketing.
     
    So if BM got themselves in trouble for implying that, wouldn't the To Protect and Serve assurance written on many police units obligate them to do just that?

    People are conditioned to call the government for all their protection needs and most every conflict aftermath includes the "Why didn't you call the police?" or "You should have dialed 911 and let the police handle it" lecture.
    That slogan is truthful yet deceitful. The ignorant people (most all of them) think this is the LEO pledge to them the people. The truth if you care to see it is that this is their pledge to the state.
     
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    From what I understand, this is where they’re focusing on. This as been circulating around twitter and certain news organizations. They say it’s marketing to children. Unfortunately DD may have a hard row to hoe ahead. I’m sure most of us understand this is far from the problem. My kids were raised around guns from a early age and learned to respect them, but hey, can’t let a crisis go to waist now can we.
     
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    From what I understand, this is where they’re focusing on. This as been circulating around twitter and certain news organizations. They say it’s marketing to children. Unfortunately DD may have a hard row to hoe ahead. I’m sure most of us understand this is far from the problem. My kids were raised around guns from a early age and learned to respect them, but hey, can’t let a crisis go to waist now can we.
    Imagine if their super bowl ads ever aired. It’s still bullshit. This is clear.y aimed at fathers and sons not like the bushmaster/rem and man cards and whatever bullshit. This is literally about safety and respect.
     
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    From what I understand, this is where they’re focusing on. This as been circulating around twitter and certain news organizations. They say it’s marketing to children. Unfortunately DD may have a hard row to hoe ahead. I’m sure most of us understand this is far from the problem. My kids were raised around guns from a early age and learned to respect them, but hey, can’t let a crisis go to waist now can we.
    To post a pic like that on the internet is just asking to get some man-hating lesbian from CPS and her dog-shooter squad to pay you a visit.
     
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    Imagine if their super bowl ads ever aired. It’s still bullshit. This is clear.y aimed at fathers and sons not like the bushmaster/rem and man cards and whatever bullshit. This is literally about safety and respect.
    Oh, I agree. However “they” don’t care about that. To them it’s just another piece of the puzzle to push their agenda. Same lawyer that handled the sandy hook case against Rem is the one going after this one too.
     
    Supreme Court ruled that police have no obligation to enter. I believe that was after the stoneman Douglass shooting in ft lauderdale when the school SRO stayed outside
    We also have the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act of 2005.

    Peaceful protestors torch and loot entire neighborhoods without consequence, the Clintons have knocked off more people than Ted Bundy and NY just passed laws this week that piss all over the second amendment.

    The law is selectively enforced and subject to the whims of the politicians and their puppets in the courts.

    Overturn that BS.
     
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    We also have the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act of 2005.

    Peaceful protestors torch and loot entire neighborhoods without consequence, the Clintons have knocked off more people than Ted Bundy and NY just passed laws this week that piss all over the second amendment.

    The law is selectively enforced and subject to the whims of the politicians and their puppets in the courts.

    Overturn that BS.
    If they overturn that gun makers CAN be sued for shootings. That’s why it’s there. They can’t be held liable for what someone does with their equipment
     
    Generally speaking, an insurance company has the right to settle any claim they want to without the insured’s approval.

    Remington sucks, don’t get me wrong, but I bet the decision to settle was made by the insurance carriers.

    I don’t have any inside knowledge of the case but that is how insurance typically works with exceptions for certain types of insurance programs.
    It's a big savings to settle much cheaper then going to court for the insurance companies. Its amazing what they pay out on claims without giving it a second thought.
     
    If they overturn that gun makers CAN be sued for shootings. That’s why it’s there. They can’t be held liable for what someone does with their equipment
    Bad wording I guess.

    I meant get rid of qualified immunity in cases where LE fails to act in these types of situations, where failure to act amounts to gross negligence and complete and utter disregard for human life.
     
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    The lawyers take these cases in the hopes of a settlement (even if they think it’s unlikely to win) for the free publicity. They couldn’t afford the advertisements if the had to pay for it.
     
    I thought it was a Bushmaster ad (because they're cucks and sold out of ME to be part of that trash), and the ad said something like, "Get your man card back", or "man card reissued".
    "Consider your man card reissued." That’s how a 2012 ad from Remington read below the image of the Bushmaster AR-15 rifle. It was featured in Maxim, a magazine whose readership is primarily made up of young impressionable men. The semi-automatic rifle Remington was marketing was similar to the Bushmaster XM15-E2S rifle, which Adam Lanza used a few months later to mass murder 20 first-graders and six educators at Sandy Hook Elementary School.
     
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    Anyone who posts a pic of their kid handling an AR.

    Think of the children.
    Exactly, I’m thinking maybe somebody at DD should have thought that thru before posting it on May 16. They’ve since deleted it, but not before it was screenshot by many. That pic was in a Nypost article yesterday.
     
    Exactly, I’m thinking maybe somebody at DD should have thought that thru before posting it on May 16. They’ve since deleted it, but not before it was screenshot by many. That pic was in a Nypost article yesterday.
    That photo is perfectly fine and what a man with guns in the house should do often with his young children. Why cower to the left. Fuck those mother fuckers.
     
    That photo is perfectly fine and what a man with guns in the house should do often with his young children. Why cower to the left. Fuck those mother fuckers.
    Hey, you're talking to a Boomer who built wooden 3 gun wall racks in shop class in jr. high like all the other non sissy kids that came from normal families.
    Many families had the glass display cases with no locks on them. If you had friends over after school you showed them your guns. No big deal.

    But now the state is looking for any excuse to grab your guns so the nurse taking your information will ask: "Do you smoke? Do you drink? Ever experience chest pains?............Do you own any guns?"
     
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    That photo is perfectly fine and what a man with guns in the house should do often with his young children. Why cower to the left. Fuck those mother fuckers.
    Yeah, I pretty much covered that in my first post in this thread above. But, the OP’s post is about a lawsuit. This is basically how they got Remington, thru their interpretation of Rem’s marketing. Same lawyer that handled the sandy hook/Remington deal is the one representing these people. Said he learned a lot in that trial, and would use everything he could against DD. Is it bullshit? Yep, no doubt.
     
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    Yeah, I pretty much covered that in my first post in this thread above. But, the OP’s post is about a lawsuit. This is basically how they got Remington, thru their interpretation of Rem’s marketing. Same lawyer that handled the sandy hook/Remington deal is the one representing these people. Said he learned a lot in that trial, and would use everything he could against DD. Is it bullshit? Yep, no doubt.
    The outcome of Sandy Hook litigation isn’t certain.
    Here’s the best summary I could find, from Wikipedia:
    n October 2016, a Connecticut Superior Court judge dismissed a lawsuit filed by the families of some victims of the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shootingagainst the manufacturer (Remington), the wholesale distributor, and the retailer of the semi-automatic rifle used in the shooting. Judge Barbara Bellis ruled that the suit "falls squarely within the broad immunity" provided to gun manufacturers and dealers by the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.[25] In March 2019, the Connecticut Supreme Court reversed the lower court's ruling, allowing plaintiffs to continue their suit against Remington.[26] The US Supreme Court declined to intervene in ongoing litigation that had not been decided.[27][28]
     
    The outcome of Sandy Hook litigation isn’t certain.
    Here’s the best summary I could find, from Wikipedia:
    n October 2016, a Connecticut Superior Court judge dismissed a lawsuit filed by the families of some victims of the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shootingagainst the manufacturer (Remington), the wholesale distributor, and the retailer of the semi-automatic rifle used in the shooting. Judge Barbara Bellis ruled that the suit "falls squarely within the broad immunity" provided to gun manufacturers and dealers by the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.[25] In March 2019, the Connecticut Supreme Court reversed the lower court's ruling, allowing plaintiffs to continue their suit against Remington.[26] The US Supreme Court declined to intervene in ongoing litigation that had not been decided.[27][28]
    Rem settled with 5 families in Feb. for $73 million. I hope wherever this goes that DD stands their ground and fights it all the way and doesn’t settle. At some point in the near future I think we’re all gonna have to stand up.
     
    Rem settled with 5 families in Feb. for $73 million. I hope wherever this goes that DD stands their ground and fights it all the way and doesn’t settle. At some point in the near future I think we’re all gonna have to stand up.
    I hope so too, if they settle they will start bringing lawsuits against every manufacturer and probably accessories as well. My fear is there are deep pockets behind this filing(Soros ect take your pick). Firearms are the lynchpin to their entire socialist utopia fantasy, until the country is disarmed they can’t fully succeed, and they will throw as many lives in the grinder as needed. Our founders understood this, gave us a foolproof constitution to stop it from happening, and we still let the enemy from within convince 40% of the country that everything that is wrong is right.
     
    DD getting karma for supporting universal back round checks. Hope they win but it bankrupts them fighting it
     
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    Stop,
    Don't touch,
    Leave the area,
    Tell an adult.


    This is how you check that the chamber is empty,
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    Never point it at anything you do not wish to shoot, don't be a Baldwin.

    edit to add: The Eddie Eagle refrain also works when they find bad shit on social media. Our school district is all over getting the students to tell a responsible adult about questionable social media goings on.
     
    Stop,
    Don't touch,
    Leave the area,
    Tell an adult.


    This is how you check that the chamber is empty,
    c77e2e15-5654-4873-a9a8-93c310067d8e-jpeg.7884352


    Never point it at anything you do not wish to shoot, don't be a Baldwin.

    edit to add: The Eddie Eagle refrain also works when they find bad shit on social media. Our school district is all over getting the students to tell a responsible adult about questionable social media goings on.
    Why are you flipping him the bird?
     
    DD should terminate their .gov contracts forthwith.

    That would hurt them more in the long run. This probably goes the way of Remington that the insurance company settles. I wonder if it will have a different effect of insurance companies dropping gun manufacturers as clients or raising the premium cost to something astronomical (which will get passed onto us).
     
    That would hurt them more in the long run. This probably goes the way of Remington that the insurance company settles. I wonder if it will have a different effect of insurance companies dropping gun manufacturers as clients or raising the premium cost to something astronomical (which will get passed onto us).
    I don’t even see how any of their advertisements apply. That IG post isn’t an ad. It’s a social media post.
     
    Sorry - children have constitutional rights too. Is it illegal to tech your children to exercise their freedom of religion? Their freedom of speech? No.

    Under the supervision of parents, as depicted in this picture, you should be able to handle and or use a firearm.

    Plus the perp was an adult.

    Fuck you, lawyers.